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Reply #90 posted 09/17/04 9:57am

papaa

WHERE IS...

7salles when you need him? He'll clear up the "huger" vocal range question in an instant. lol
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Reply #91 posted 09/17/04 10:41am

LightOfArt

TheJourney4all7 said:

Luv4oneanotha said:


He means Cult mj fans,
not casual mj fans

sigh I know. I just hate the bad rap MJ fans get overall. And I consider myself a pretty diehard fan.
Yes, I defend him when people act stupid and disrespectful.
Yes, I consider him innocent until proven guilty.
Yes, I think he has vitiligo.
Yes, I think he is the best Entertainer in the world.
Yes, I have all his CDs.
But...
Yes, I know Invincible is a horrible CD.
Yes, I know he could be guilty
Yes, I know his nose is almost falling off his face.
I mean not all obsessed Michael Jackson fans are completely detached from reality.


the way I think of mj,

He's innocent until proven guilty, but he's possibly innocent.
Yes I defend him. Defend everyone who deserves.
I think he's one of the best entertainers and one of the best singer/songwriters of all time. a musical genius. a legendary performer.
I have all his albums.
I believe he's got vitiligo
But...
Invincible is bad to me(remaining albums all masterpieces)
There's a very small possibility that he may be guilty
He looks bad, but still cool when on stage.

so does that make me a cult fan?

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Reply #92 posted 09/17/04 11:04am

Luv4oneanotha

LightOfArt said:

TheJourney4all7 said:


sigh I know. I just hate the bad rap MJ fans get overall. And I consider myself a pretty diehard fan.
Yes, I defend him when people act stupid and disrespectful.
Yes, I consider him innocent until proven guilty.
Yes, I think he has vitiligo.
Yes, I think he is the best Entertainer in the world.
Yes, I have all his CDs.
But...
Yes, I know Invincible is a horrible CD.
Yes, I know he could be guilty
Yes, I know his nose is almost falling off his face.
I mean not all obsessed Michael Jackson fans are completely detached from reality.


the way I think of mj,

He's innocent until proven guilty, but he's possibly innocent.
Yes I defend him. Defend everyone who deserves.
I think he's one of the best entertainers and one of the best singer/songwriters of all time. a musical genius. a legendary performer.
I have all his albums.
I believe he's got vitiligo
But...
Invincible is bad to me(remaining albums all masterpieces)
There's a very small possibility that he may be guilty
He looks bad, but still cool when on stage.

so does that make me a cult fan?

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Yes...
YEs it does
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Reply #93 posted 09/17/04 11:06am

CinisterCee

Do MJ fans praise Rod Temperton's songwriting? Seems like they always wanna give credit to MJ somehow.
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Reply #94 posted 09/17/04 11:13am

Luv4oneanotha

CinisterCee said:

Do MJ fans praise Rod Temperton's songwriting? Seems like they always wanna give credit to MJ somehow.


EXTREEEEEMELY GOOD POINT!

Mj's song writing is alright
but it isn't great
anybody remember this
"Skin head,Dead Head,Everybody gone bad"?

Sure the Arrangements on TDCAU where great
But the lyrics?
[Edited 9/17/04 11:16am]
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Reply #95 posted 09/17/04 11:14am

CinisterCee

"Rock With You"
"Off The Wall"
"Burn This Disco Out"

"Baby Be Mine"
"Thriller"
"The Lady In My Life"

Boy those are great songs, who wrote em? whistling
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Reply #96 posted 09/17/04 11:24am

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CinisterCee said:

Do MJ fans praise Rod Temperton's songwriting? Seems like they always wanna give credit to MJ somehow.



Yes! Exceptional point. MJ fans seem to airbrush him outta the picture, when he was in fact integral to MJs success.

And the influence of Quincy Jones is the strongest of all all. Without him, MJ would have been a million miles from the artist he is
“If I can shoot rabbits/then I can shoot fascists”
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Reply #97 posted 09/17/04 11:53am

TheJourney4all
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sermwanderer said:

CinisterCee said:

Do MJ fans praise Rod Temperton's songwriting? Seems like they always wanna give credit to MJ somehow.



Yes! Exceptional point. MJ fans seem to airbrush him outta the picture, when he was in fact integral to MJs success.

And the influence of Quincy Jones is the strongest of all all. Without him, MJ would have been a million miles from the artist he is

I should thank MJ, really. Because, sadly, I didn't appreciate Rod Temperton's work until I found out he wrote Thriller (when I was about 12). He is an amazing songwriter- "Always and Forever," "Boogie Nights," "Baby Come to Me," "Groove Line," "The Lady in My Life." worship I even started listening to Heatwave! dancing jig
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Reply #98 posted 09/17/04 12:02pm

Marrk

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sermwanderer said:

CinisterCee said:

Do MJ fans praise Rod Temperton's songwriting? Seems like they always wanna give credit to MJ somehow.



Yes! Exceptional point. MJ fans seem to airbrush him outta the picture, when he was in fact integral to MJs success.

And the influence of Quincy Jones is the strongest of all all. Without him, MJ would have been a million miles from the artist he is


Not really, when you listen to michael's original home demos of Billie Jean and Don't Stop, it becomes glaringly obvious Michael was the creative force behind those songs NOT Quincy. There's really not that much that Quincy did to those songs. I dare say the same can be said of all Michael's creations.
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Reply #99 posted 09/17/04 12:08pm

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I've haerd those tapes and I'd have to say you are underestimating Quincys input. I know what you mean, but he adds an overall sheen to them that makes a hell of a difference
“If I can shoot rabbits/then I can shoot fascists”
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Reply #100 posted 09/17/04 1:00pm

papaa

I FIND THE LYRICS ARE QUITE APPROPRIATE

For that particular song, especially their spat out delivery.

You know it's funny... the ones who complain the most about MJ threads are those who can be found making countless countless posts in the very same. (cough... Voices...brrrr....Carry...ahem... cough!!)

Luv4oneanotha said:

Mj's song writing is alright
but it isn't great
anybody remember this
"Skin head,Dead Head,Everybody gone bad"?

Sure the Arrangements on TDCAU where great
But the lyrics?
[Edited 9/17/04 11:16am]
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Reply #101 posted 09/17/04 1:35pm

TheJourney4all
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Luv4oneanotha said:

Mj's song writing is alright
but it isn't great
anybody remember this
"Skin head,Dead Head,Everybody gone bad"?

[Edited 9/17/04 11:16am]

Yes, but some of Michael Jackson's songwriting is very impressive-

Jam
Nation to nation
All the world must come together
Face the problems that we see
Then maybe somehow we can work it out
I asked my neighbor for a favor
She said, 'Later'
What has come of all the people
Have we lost love of what it's about

I have to find my peace
'Cause no one seems to let me be
False prophets cry of doom
What are the possibilities
I told my brother
There'll be problem
Times and tears for fears
But we must live each day
Like it's the last

Go with it, go with it
Jam
It ain't too much stuff
(Jam)
It ain't too much
It ain't too much for me to jam
It ain't
It ain't too much stuff
(Jam)
It ain't, don't you
It ain't too much for me to

The world keeps changing
Rearranging minds and thoughts
Predictions fly of doom
The baby boom has come of age
We'll work it out
I told my brothers
Don't you ask me for no favors
I'm conditioned by the system
Don't you talk to me
Don't scream and shout

She prays to God, to Buddha
Then she sings a Talmud song
Confusions contradict the self
Do we know right from wrong
I just want you to recognize me in the temple
You can't hurt me
I found peace within myself

Go with it, go with it
Jam
It ain't
It ain't too much stuff
(Jam)
It ain't too much
It ain't too much for me to jam
It ain't
It ain't too much stuff
(Jam)
It ain't, don't you
It ain't too much for me to
Jam
It ain't much stuff
It ain't too much
It ain't too much for me to jam
It ain't
It ain't too much stuff
(Jam)
It ain't don't you
It ain't too much for me to


(Rap)
Jam, jam
Here comes the man, hot damn
The big boy stands
Movin' up a hand
Makin' funky tracks with my man
Michael Jackson
Smooth criminal
The man is Mike
So relaxed
Mingle mingle
Jingle in the jungle
Bum rushed the door
3 and 4's in a bundle
Execute the plan
First I cooled like a fan
Got with Janet then with Guy
Now with Michael
'Cause it ain't hard to

Jam
It ain't
It ain't too much stuff
(Jam)
It ain't too much
It ain't too much for me to jam
Dad gone it
It ain't too much stuff
(Jam)
It ain't, don't stop
It ain't too much for me to
(Jam)
It ain't
It ain't too much stuff
(Jam)
It ain't
Don't you
It ain't too much for me to jam
It ain't
It ain't too much stuff
(Jam)
It ain't, don't you
It ain't too much for me to
(Jam)

It ain't too hard for me to jam
It ain't too hard for me to jam
It ain't too hard for me to jam
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Reply #102 posted 09/17/04 1:39pm

VoicesCarry

papaa said:

I FIND THE LYRICS ARE QUITE APPROPRIATE

For that particular song, especially their spat out delivery.

You know it's funny... the ones who complain the most about MJ threads are those who can be found making countless countless posts in the very same. (cough... Voices...brrrr....Carry...ahem... cough!!)

Luv4oneanotha said:

Mj's song writing is alright
but it isn't great
anybody remember this
"Skin head,Dead Head,Everybody gone bad"?

Sure the Arrangements on TDCAU where great
But the lyrics?
[Edited 9/17/04 11:16am]


finger A lot of people on the org dislike the volume of MJ threads and the stupidity that seems to plague them - not just me. If you don't like it, don't respond wink
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Reply #103 posted 09/17/04 3:06pm

papaa

WHAT HAVE WE HERE?

I was just clearing my throat lol

But that's yet another post to chalk into the MJ tally, eh babycakes? cool

VoicesCarry said:

finger A lot of people on the org dislike the volume of MJ threads and the stupidity that seems to plague them - not just me. If you don't like it, don't respond wink
[Edited 9/17/04 13:40pm]
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Reply #104 posted 09/17/04 3:27pm

VoicesCarry

papaa said:

WHAT HAVE WE HERE?

I was just clearing my throat lol

But that's yet another post to chalk into the MJ tally, eh babycakes? cool

VoicesCarry said:

finger A lot of people on the org dislike the volume of MJ threads and the stupidity that seems to plague them - not just me. If you don't like it, don't respond wink
[Edited 9/17/04 13:40pm]


Definitely, fuckmuffin. razz
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Reply #105 posted 09/17/04 7:14pm

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sermwanderer said:

CinisterCee said:

Do MJ fans praise Rod Temperton's songwriting? Seems like they always wanna give credit to MJ somehow.



Yes! Exceptional point. MJ fans seem to airbrush him outta the picture, when he was in fact integral to MJs success.

And the influence of Quincy Jones is the strongest of all all. Without him, MJ would have been a million miles from the artist he is


I like Rod Temperton's stuff, but it's just not as interesting as Michael's to me. I think the best songs on MJ's albums have always been the ones he's written himself. People remember Thriller for Wanna Be Startin Somethin, Billie Jean and Beat It more than any other of the songs, and Off The Wall is remembered more for Don't Stop till you get enough than anything else.
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Reply #106 posted 09/18/04 1:09am

LightOfArt

Luv4oneanotha said:

CinisterCee said:

Do MJ fans praise Rod Temperton's songwriting? Seems like they always wanna give credit to MJ somehow.


EXTREEEEEMELY GOOD POINT!

Mj's song writing is alright
but it isn't great
anybody remember this
"Skin head,Dead Head,Everybody gone bad"?

Sure the Arrangements on TDCAU where great
But the lyrics?
[Edited 9/17/04 11:16am]


you said it yourself that he's one of the best songwriters ever. in that thread you created called 'best ever songwriters'. come on you know he is one of the bests. dont worry, we want call you a cult just because of that lol it's only you wo can call someone cult because of his musical tastes wink
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Reply #107 posted 09/18/04 1:23am

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September 17, 2004

STATEMENT OF ATTORNEY THOMAS A. MESEREAU, JR.

".....Mr. Jackson has been repeatedly advised by those who stood to make fortunes in his business affairs to pay money, rather than face certain false allegations. As a result, many years ago, he did pay money, rather than litigate, two false allegations that he had harmed children....."



Here is JACKO lieing about it in 1995's Primetime Live Interview

www.mjfanclub.net/history...rview.html


Quote:
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Diane: Any other settlements in process now or previously with children making these kinds of claims. We have heard that there is one...not, not a case that the prosecutors would bring in court...

Michael: No.

Diane: ...but, but once again you're taling about settling out...

Michael: No. That's not true. No. It's not true. I think, I've heard everything is fine, and there are no others.

Prime Time Live; June 14, 1995
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Reply #108 posted 09/18/04 2:12am

LightOfArt

that tells nothing as usual orgjacko. you pay people for silence so they'd shut up. so nobody would hear about it. than if he was gonna say on tv that he paid the family, then why pay them.

by the way it's proven that Gavin's(accuser) mother is a shizophrenic nutcase. She said in an interview that Gavin shoot him with a BB gun, on her leg lol

Also she got married gave birth to a new kid(took her baby to courtroom also yeserday rolleyes )...And her kid is molested????? lol


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Reply #109 posted 09/18/04 2:17am

Nikster

Do ya REALLY wanna know what they talk about on MJ fansites?

http://boards.mjsite.com/...topic.html


It ain't pretty disbelief
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Reply #110 posted 09/18/04 2:24am

LightOfArt

Nikster said:

Do ya REALLY wanna know what they talk about on MJ fansites?

http://boards.mjsite.com/...topic.html


It ain't pretty disbelief


come one it's not what people talk all the time lol

people talk here a lot of stupid stuff here.

lol, it's really difficult to be an MJ fan disbelief
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Reply #111 posted 09/18/04 4:02am

VoicesCarry

LightOfArt said:

that tells nothing as usual orgjacko. you pay people for silence so they'd shut up. so nobody would hear about it. than if he was gonna say on tv that he paid the family, then why pay them.

by the way it's proven that Gavin's(accuser) mother is a shizophrenic nutcase. She said in an interview that Gavin shoot him with a BB gun, on her leg lol

Also she got married gave birth to a new kid(took her baby to courtroom also yeserday rolleyes )...And her kid is molested????? lol


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[Edited 9/18/04 2:12am]


So basically you're saying that she's an impudent whore because she remarried? Nice.
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Reply #112 posted 09/18/04 5:22am

Cloudbuster

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CinisterCee said:

"Rock With You"
"Off The Wall"
"Burn This Disco Out"

"Baby Be Mine"
"Thriller"
"The Lady In My Life"

Boy those are great songs, who wrote em? whistling


lol Sure, they're great songs.

But compared to:

"Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough"
"Working Day & Night"
"Get On The Floor"

"Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'"
"Beat It"
"Billie Jean"...

Perhaps not so great, eh? wink
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Reply #113 posted 09/18/04 5:22am

LightOfArt

VoicesCarry said:

LightOfArt said:

that tells nothing as usual orgjacko. you pay people for silence so they'd shut up. so nobody would hear about it. than if he was gonna say on tv that he paid the family, then why pay them.

by the way it's proven that Gavin's(accuser) mother is a shizophrenic nutcase. She said in an interview that Gavin shoot him with a BB gun, on her leg lol

Also she got married gave birth to a new kid(took her baby to courtroom also yeserday rolleyes )...And her kid is molested????? lol


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So basically you're saying that she's an impudent whore because she remarried? Nice.


no, I'm saying if your kid was molested you wouldnt get married and give birth to another child. I mean how come you can do that if your kid was molested? I wouldnt even think of dating someone if my kid was molested...not few months after the incident atleast.

She also claimed her exhusband molested Gavin too. and imprisoned them too.and you know what happend to that staff of that market? They allegedaly sexually assaulted the woman, beat them, and just like mike, imprisioned them lol

I think she's wackier than Mike. She said in an interview Gavin shot her in the leg. She said he shot her because she didnt want him to go to Neverland anymore.
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Reply #114 posted 09/18/04 5:24am

LightOfArt

Cloudbuster said:

CinisterCee said:

"Rock With You"
"Off The Wall"
"Burn This Disco Out"

"Baby Be Mine"
"Thriller"
"The Lady In My Life"

Boy those are great songs, who wrote em? whistling


lol Sure, they're great songs.

But compared to:

"Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough"
"Working Day & Night"
"Get On The Floor"

"Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'"
"Beat It"
"Billie Jean"...

Perhaps not so great, eh? wink


let me save ya, Mike's another talent: his other gift is that he emotes very well into the songs he hasnt written too, and makes them his own wink lol
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Reply #115 posted 09/18/04 5:25am

Cloudbuster

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LightOfArt said:

I think she's wackier than Mike. She said in an interview Gavin shot her in the leg. She said he shot her because she didnt want him to go to Neverland anymore.


lol
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Reply #116 posted 09/18/04 5:26am

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LightOfArt said:

let me save ya, Mike's another talent: his other gift is that he emotes very well into the songs he hasnt written too, and makes them his own wink lol


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Reply #117 posted 09/18/04 5:27am

LightOfArt

LightOfArt said:

VoicesCarry said:



So basically you're saying that she's an impudent whore because she remarried? Nice.


no, I'm saying if your kid was molested you wouldnt get married and give birth to another child. I mean how come you can do that if your kid was molested? I wouldnt even think of dating someone if my kid was molested...not few months after the incident atleast.

She also claimed her exhusband molested Gavin too. and imprisoned them too.and you know what happend to that staff of that market? They allegedaly sexually assaulted the woman, beat them, and just like mike, imprisioned them lol

I think she's wackier than Mike. She said in an interview Gavin shot her in the leg. She said he shot her because she didnt want him to go to Neverland anymore.


i love quoting myself

they got alot of money out of it. I believe she trained her kids, into professionel liars
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Reply #118 posted 09/18/04 5:28am

VoicesCarry

LightOfArt said:

let me save ya, Mike's another talent: his other gift is that he emotes very well into the songs he hasnt written too, and makes them his own wink lol


Yes, that is the general purpose of a vocalist.
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Reply #119 posted 09/18/04 8:45am

Luv4oneanotha

The Woman is a scam artist just by her Dramatic entrance into the courtroom yesterday

She kept rammbling about being kidnapp when the questioning, wasnt focused on that

it was mainly about the search at Jacksons Private detectives quaters...

theres one thing i don't respect

And thats Over Acting

there was no need for her making the cross symbol, and making praying signals

and rambling about offtopic discussions

Quite unprofessional.

And im not saying that because i think she's lying

it was just and unprofessional way of going about things

there was no need for that!
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