WildStyle said:

advice...

Don't Listen to Orgjacko...
he has too much freetime on his hands
but obviously not enough to attain valid info

Um, yeah Mj's voice has changed but he's still pretty good, amazingly good considering how horribly he's mutilated himself.

As for the lip synching and "fraud", I think it's more to do with Michael conforming to the trend (that he helped create) of doing choreographed dances while singing, which is impossible without pre-taped vocals backing you up. It's stupid, but I don't think it's because he can't sing anymore.

As to the skinny white guy. I think just about everyone can tell that the guy singing "Lisa It's Your Birthday" isn't Michael, that's no big news.

As to MJ versus Prince. I guess I haven't payed much attention to who's sheer abilities are superior, but Prince's voice just hasn't impressed anywhere near as much as Michael's.
[Edited 9/14/04 20:17pm]

blackguitaristz said:

sure they do they mention Mj's Kid Prince all the time ...in my opinion i am totally sick of MJ threads on a Prince message board

Mazerati said:

But it is the non Prince music forum.

Anyhoo, there's just as many Madonna threads and even Kylie and Bjork have had a ton of late so you should all quit bitching, bitches.

Cloudbuster said:

MJ's the only one who consistently gets tons of threads devoted to completely inane subjects. I'm surprised we haven't had a "MJ gets his cuticles clipped" thread yet.

P.S. Kylie had that one big thread, but that's about it .

jacktheimprovident said:

In actuality "pre-taped" backing vocals were seen as a pioneering technique, which Michael used really well when he performed Billy Jean on Motown 25th Anni, and he did SING, and the two went hand in hand. Doing that gave it that extra oomph.

SassyBritches said:

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People on this board are just into the music. Nobody is Zombified. You wrote about people booing at an aftershow and to a lot of music fans that is unacceptable. Most P fans know what to expect at an aftershow and don't have a lot of patience for newbies or people that are just into lip synching. It does not make anyone a zombie.

VoicesCarry said:

Is huger a word?

laurarichardson said:

i disagree...
I've met a few "Fam"

that where quite zombiefied

the ones that think Chaos and Disorder & Diamonds an pearls was his best work,
Everything the man does is good to them...
they think the man can do no wrong
i shall mention no names
but they're out there i can assure you

especially in the prince forum...
lot of stupid threads in there by the Zombies

orgjacko said:

I'm only laughing this off not because you said we would, but because it's the single most stupidest fucking thing i've read in all my time on the org. And you have the front to call other people morons when you've just posted that! fucking muppet.

Mazerati said:

Ah well. what's the name of this forum? unless it's changed to 'Music: Non-Prince (except for Michael Jackson)' i'd just ignore any threads that mention him. Except you'd rather contribute to the thread by the looks of things. Ironic.

LightOfArt said:

No Prince is a better songwriter

MJs voice peaked, as others have said, at 11.


And having seen both live, Prince kicks the shit outta MJ (though when I seen James Brown this year, its amazing how much both have stolen from him with regards to on stage persona)


And Princes screams are miles better than michaels

But Mj's random noises are better, in fact thats not true, thats probably a tie

sermwanderer said:

I find michael's songwriting skills far superoir to Prince's. He's been to many styles and sounds.

As for singing, I rate Prince's voice: 'good' nothing less nothing more. Michael has the bigger range. Prince cant do much without falsetto and screeching. Michael hit high notes without effort.

and as for live on stage performance, prince may play the guitar, but michael alone with his voice, no dancing, can mke audience go nuts. he has got the highest form of energy on stage.
watch She's Out Of My Life live from dangerous tour.

I personally never find Prince and MJ comparable much. MJ is a late 60s act,was born on stage. I'm sure Prince was digging some Jackson 5 music back in time.

LightOfArt said:

I can sum up your analysis of Prince in one word: Shite

I seen Jackson on the Dangerous tour. I was right at the front. I loved every minute, but Prince was different, just so much more complete, less staged, just better

But hey bro, thats your opinion. Like mine is that Mj doesnt come close to P.

Its useless arguing with a Cult Mj fan...
and Light is a cult Mj fan

so just give up...

yes just give up.

it's useless to argue with me, I'm not allowed to think someone's better than Prince.
[Edited 9/16/04 10:50am]

LightOfArt said:

yes you are. Keep fighting your corner.

You guys are funny

Apples and Oranges...
Prince fans will stan behind Prince
MJ fans will stand behind Mj

In order to really find out
you have to summon both artist into a competition

Like who can write the bests ong in a 10 minute period

Or who could sing the highest note

who sing the lowest note?

whio could sing the best with coke in thier mouth

Luv4oneanotha said:

Well, like you and a ton of other people on this site, I'm a die-hard fan of both...MUSICALLY and VOCALLY! MJ is the greatest entertainer ever, and he's also the weirdest black man on the face of the earth. Prince is... ...well, he keeps us all grooving and guessing, but he's also flaky, conceited, and immature.

Gotta love those two! I really do wish they would take the stage together, just once. That'd be the funkiest shit ever!

I´ve never been in any of MJ's sites
But I imagine they're pretty Child-ish...

They don't "talk" about Michael on MJ forums. They just worship.

These "who's better" threads are very annoying and..well...kinda fun too

But anyway all I'll say is that I think Prince and MJ are two of my favorite R&B artists of all time and they're both extremely talented. I'd be inclined to say that MJ is the better entertainer and Prince is the better artist, but I think MJ is an underrated artist and Prince is an underrated entertainer. Prince can do things that MJ can't and vice versa. Both are great songwriters, prince is much more prolific and arguably more eclectic but that's not the same as being "better". Mj is a better dancer and I'd say a better singer too, though I do think prince is a good singer. MJ rarely plays instruments, but supposedly he's not completely incompetant as a "multi-instrumentalist". MJ is very careful and OCD about the music he releases, while Prince is much more uninhibited and even whimsical, which accounts for why MJ feels the need to have virtual teams of consultants in production and songwriting (who i don't think ever add anything) and why he postpones his releases so much while Prince, as susan rogers said "would record with a comb and jug if that's all that was in front of him".

And just for the record, they both borrow heavily as artits and entertainers from their great predecessors, most notably James Brown.

One last thought, it's easier to be a fan of prince these days than to be an MJ fan.

jacktheimprovident said:

who's fault is that the Fans? or the artist?

The Artist...

Its sad but now everytime i say im aprince fan everybody gets all excited. and brag they like prince too (cause its cool to like him now) when they really only know 3 songs

shyt if this was about 10 years ago i would of gotten dissed

because of his symbol shyt

the only reason it isnt "Cool" to like mj now is because he really F*Cked himself up this time
but if he comes out clean and starts making good music again
it'll be cool again

Back during invincible it was cool again...
the album sucked but you got props

Luv4oneanotha said:

Who's to say Michael Jackson wouldn't be Jesus? Like show me some scentific proof. Let's face it - if Jesus was here among us, he'd prolly be Michael Jackson! Ain't that the case?

Novabreaker said:

someone in his rightmind. He's the prophet

Reminds me lol i was on a forum lol

and this women said MJ was being martyred just like Jesus was lol

You guys make me laugh lol

Novabreaker said:

I'm an MJ fan.

TheJourney4all7 said:

He means Cult mj fans,
not casual mj fans

Luv4oneanotha said:

I know. I just hate the bad rap MJ fans get overall. And I consider myself a pretty diehard fan.
Yes, I defend him when people act stupid and disrespectful.
Yes, I consider him innocent until proven guilty.
Yes, I think he has vitiligo.
Yes, I think he is the best Entertainer in the world.
Yes, I have all his CDs.
But...
Yes, I know Invincible is a horrible CD.
Yes, I know he could be guilty
Yes, I know his nose is almost falling off his face.
I mean not all obsessed Michael Jackson fans are completely detached from reality.