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sonic

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Just bought,,The Vault~

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Hi Peeps~~

I just picked up the Vault ,,& was wondering what others thought about it?
I was actually looking for "Crystal ball"..never did find it~~ confused

What are your favorite songs,,worst songs? Im amazed that I havent bought it sooner,,actually, I never knew it EXsisted!
~Any storys behind the making of.....?

Ta~~~ prince
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Reply #1 posted 05/30/04 8:22am

lunacoco

Favorite is When the Lights Go Down..
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Reply #2 posted 05/30/04 8:25am

TheEnglishGent

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I really like this album. Highlights for me are 5 Women, Extraordinary and When the lights go down.
RIP sad
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Reply #3 posted 05/30/04 8:32am

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Really underrated album with some great tracks.The only let down is Old Friends 4 sale because the lyrics of the original version are so much better.

I love She Spoke 2 Me, When The Lights Go Down (great intro) and It's About That Walk. Extraordinary is a great ballad as well.
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Reply #4 posted 05/30/04 9:26am

r1ghteousone

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When The Lights Go Down / She Spoke 2 Me

...both great. thumbs up!
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Reply #5 posted 05/30/04 9:29am

Love2tha9s

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Really love the horns on 5 Women. I also really like There is lonely but I wish it wasn't

so short.
"Why'd I waste my kisses on you baby?" R.I.P. Prince You've finally found your way back home. Well Done.
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Reply #6 posted 05/30/04 9:48am

Starmist7

I did also just the other day...I've been listening to it back to back...music...I think it's a very nice CD, I can listen to it straight through, There's a lot of nice jazzy instrumental parts for easy listening... I really like 'She Spoke 2 Me', 'There is Lonely', 'Old Frends 4 Sale', '5 women', but all the rest have good music too, I was surprised since I don't hear much talk about it, it became a favorite right away...
[This message was edited Sun May 30 9:51:22 2004 by Starmist7]
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Reply #7 posted 05/31/04 2:43am

CalhounSq

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sonic said:

smile

Hi Peeps~~

I just picked up the Vault ,,& was wondering what others thought about it?
I was actually looking for "Crystal ball"..never did find it~~ confused

What are your favorite songs,,worst songs? Im amazed that I havent bought it sooner,,actually, I never knew it EXsisted!
~Any storys behind the making of.....?

Ta~~~ prince


Try The Wherehouse - I've bought CB for $5 there nod
heart prince I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it prince heart
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Reply #8 posted 05/31/04 2:45am

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sonic said:

smile

Hi Peeps~~

I just picked up the Vault ,,& was wondering what others thought about it?
I was actually looking for "Crystal ball"..never did find it~~ confused

What are your favorite songs,,worst songs? Im amazed that I havent bought it sooner,,actually, I never knew it EXsisted!
~Any storys behind the making of.....?

Ta~~~ prince



5 Women and the extended version of She Spoke 2 Me are superb.
There are three sides to every story. My side, your side, and the truth. And no one is lying. Memories shared serve each one differently
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Reply #9 posted 05/31/04 2:57am

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lunacoco said:

Favorite is When the Lights Go Down..


nod nod nod nod nod nod nod
heart prince I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it prince heart
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Reply #10 posted 05/31/04 4:32am

mrdespues

Definitely an underrated album.

So many discard the music because they think it isn't a "real" album.

I love it.
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Reply #11 posted 05/31/04 4:37am

mrdespues

sonic said:

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~Any storys behind the making of.....?

Ta~~~ prince


Many of the songs (actually, I think ALL of them, except for Old Friends 4 Sale) were culled from sessions that Prince recorded for the film "Do Anything", when the film was still to be a musical. Prince's involvement in the film came to an end when it was decided the film was to be a comedy.

Other songs from this period include:

Do Anything
Be My Mirror
Poor Little Bastard

they can be found circulating on many different bootlegs.

.
[This message was edited Mon May 31 4:39:56 2004 by mrdespues]
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Reply #12 posted 05/31/04 4:48am

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soulyacolia said:

Really underrated album with some great tracks.The only let down is Old Friends 4 sale because the lyrics of the original version are so much better.

I love She Spoke 2 Me, When The Lights Go Down (great intro) and It's About That Walk. Extraordinary is a great ballad as well.






Co-sign on the Old Friends bit original was much better nod
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Reply #13 posted 05/31/04 8:16am

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sonic said:

I was actually looking for "Crystal ball"..never did find it~~ confused


Try here: http://half.ebay.com/cat/...&meta_id=2

The cheapest you can get from here is $8.99, from Wherehouse (good call, CalhounSq!!) - which is a fucking amazing price for this 4-CD set. Crystal Ball and The Truth are ESSENTIAL...go get 'em!!! smile
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Reply #14 posted 05/31/04 8:39am

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I remember when I bought the album I didn´t listen to any of the songs after 5 women for 14 days, because I couldn´t get over that. I kept listening to 5 women over and over again. I think that´s one of the greatest songs ever!
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #15 posted 05/31/04 9:03am

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CalhounSq said:

lunacoco said:

Favorite is When the Lights Go Down..


nod nod nod nod nod nod nod

headbang music
...:...Must I become naked?
No image at all?
Shall I remain upright?
Or get down and crawl?...:...
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Reply #16 posted 05/31/04 9:50am

SynthiaRose

I like the style of jazz on The Vault better than the style on News.

I consider this album a definite artistic achievement for Prince. (These songs do seem half-finished but I treasure it for the mood and improvisation. It is a treasure to see Prince operate like this and hear him just talking between verses and making remarks to the band, even laughing ... I LOVE this album)
:

1. The Rest of My Life (love the sheer positive energy and optimism of this song -- "I'm alive and that's reason enough for me to bust a smile ... today, today, is the best day of the rest of my life " .. music )

2. It's About that Walk (Prince at his flirtatious best! "oh, the prison I could do some time in if I ever go that ass alone." Love the lyrics, delivery, and playfulness of this song. And at the end he tells that girl she better run! lol

3. She Spoke to Me (nice song ... very mellow)

4. 5 Women (ok song. Everyone loves this. It's not my favorite. But i don't skip it).

5. When the Lights Go Down (no strong reaction to this song. But it's a good listen. Love the music)

6. My Little Pill (just a short, pseudo-song with personality like For You, Had U. I like it)

7. ** THERE IS LONELY (This is my absolute favorite song on the album.

Whenever The Vault is playing and this comes on. I stop dead in my tracks. Great atmospheric, evocative song.

He really conjures the essence of lonliness ... he talks about the world getting darker, lying down and dying, the world crumbling, . it's very telling that he then says how in HEAVEN will I ever be alright ... because it's clear the character in this song is feeling the void of God and goodness. Then for him to compare his state of lonely with what Cain felt after killing Abel. He feels like he has no brotherly kin in the world? Wow, such a powerful, short song, made even better when he lowers his vocal register to convey a deeper loneliness when he sings "there is lonely, and there is LONELY and then there is how I feel right now.

As an artist who loves melancholy moments .. I really, really appreciate this song.


8. Old Friends 4 Sale - Sad, introspective song. I love the lyrics "one day a man took my picture and asked if I'd buy it, I said I guess I don't know how. Old Friends for sale, get'em while the getting is hot. But you better watch out they'll trick you until they get what you've got. and they'll show you the friends that they're not Old friends for sale.


9. Sarah. Fun, Fun, Fun song. I would say this is my second favorite, but I just can't rank these songs that i love.

The music kicks ass. The lyrics are great. His confident, bold, playful attitude is clever as hell. I love the way he rolls the name Sarah in his throat when he delivers it.

With lyrics like "that skirt ain't talkin' too long" how can you not love the song.

My favorite verse is when he tells her to git her shit and go or Tina (Turner) won't be alone ... but then he laughs and expresses that he's not really trying to be violent he's just hurt cuz his heart is broken. The playful candor in that song is great. All lovers who've just broken up can relate to wanting the person you just lost expecially when you see them out and about town lookin good. You want to kiss them and push them away at the same time.

10. Extraordinary. Oh, what can I say about this beautiful song. It is the song that brought me back to Prince. When I decided to go hard-core Christian, i threw away my Prince catalog and anything else that could be considered impure or evil. (I had listened to him devoutly since I was 12 - 1983)

So I missed out on Prince between 1994 and 1999. Then, one day whiile driving to Iowa (and after a very emotional break with organized religion due to philosophical differences), I could only get this adult easy listening station -- and they played EXTRAORDINARY.

I was like, who is that, what is that, that sounds like Prince ... I knew his voice after all those years. I was like a drug addict getting her first hit in five years. I thought this is so amazingly and otherworldly beautiful. And I felt sad and missed Prince and the entire catalog.

So, when I got back home, I spent over $500 buying all the Prince stuff they had at Best Buy. nod



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The special niche in my heart for this album is obvious. I can't believe it didn't become I break-out release for him... but of course there was the rift with WB ... and they released it without him , trying to undercut Rave which was scheduled to drop just months later. (those bastards)

anyway .. happy listening to you.
[This message was edited Mon May 31 10:04:29 2004 by SynthiaRose]
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Reply #17 posted 05/31/04 9:59am

sonic

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Hey Mrdespues,,Ive never heard of that movie,,,"Do Anything"?
Is it available on video?..who is in it?

I really like 5 women,,Its so "soulful"..kinda reminded me of BB king~ eek
& also Sarah~~

Thanks for all the interesting comments~~~ batting eyes
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Reply #18 posted 05/31/04 10:07am

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5 women and extordinary was good
Prime aka The Kid

"I need u to dance, I need u to strip
I need u to shake Ur lil' ass n hips
I need u to grind like Ur working for tips
And give me what I need while we listen to PRINCE"
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Reply #19 posted 05/31/04 10:12am

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Sara is a fun song, cant help but do the funky chicken to that one


dancing jig
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Reply #20 posted 05/31/04 2:05pm

Kacey725

Personally, I find "The Vault" to be far less exciting than, say, the B-sides disc on the Greatest Hits collection. In some ways, "The Vault" was meant to have a similar effect...it's a collection of Prince's work not "officially" released. We know that it was assembled as a means of fulfilling his contract obligations to Warner Bros., and I think the disc is lifted by our sense as fans of getting at some of that material we'd only read about.

As is always the case, some of those tracks existed in other, sometimes better forms. My problem with "The Vault" is that most of the tracks feel like little one-day studio experiments. There's not much unity to the album, short of the fact that they are all "vault" tracks (a criticism of "Crystal Ball" as well, though given it's larger selection, I have found much more to love there).

I think "The Vault" has a bunch of nifty trifles on it, but it's not one of the first places I go when I want to listen to Prince. Nor is it bad. It' just kind of there for me.

Keith/Kacey
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Reply #21 posted 05/31/04 2:05pm

Kacey725

Personally, I find "The Vault" to be far less exciting than, say, the B-sides disc on the Greatest Hits collection. In some ways, "The Vault" was meant to have a similar effect...it's a collection of Prince's work not "officially" released. We know that it was assembled as a means of fulfilling his contract obligations to Warner Bros., and I think the disc is lifted by our sense as fans of getting at some of that material we'd only read about.

As is always the case, some of those tracks existed in other, sometimes better forms. My problem with "The Vault" is that most of the tracks feel like little one-day studio experiments. There's not much unity to the album, short of the fact that they are all "vault" tracks (a criticism of "Crystal Ball" as well, though given it's larger selection, I have found much more to love there).

I think "The Vault" has a bunch of nifty trifles on it, but it's not one of the first places I go when I want to listen to Prince. Nor is it bad. It' just kind of there for me.

Keith/Kacey
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Reply #22 posted 05/31/04 2:05pm

Kacey725

Personally, I find "The Vault" to be far less exciting than, say, the B-sides disc on the Greatest Hits collection. In some ways, "The Vault" was meant to have a similar effect...it's a collection of Prince's work not "officially" released. We know that it was assembled as a means of fulfilling his contract obligations to Warner Bros., and I think the disc is lifted by our sense as fans of getting at some of that material we'd only read about.

As is always the case, some of those tracks existed in other, sometimes better forms. My problem with "The Vault" is that most of the tracks feel like little one-day studio experiments. There's not much unity to the album, short of the fact that they are all "vault" tracks (a criticism of "Crystal Ball" as well, though given it's larger selection, I have found much more to love there).

I think "The Vault" has a bunch of nifty trifles on it, but it's not one of the first places I go when I want to listen to Prince. Nor is it bad. It' just kind of there for me.

Keith/Kacey
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Reply #23 posted 05/31/04 6:42pm

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The Vault is the truth! I listen to it from front to back! ( yes even My Little Pill). Oh and the treat at the end is Extraordinary.nod
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Reply #24 posted 05/31/04 7:35pm

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"When The Lights Go Down"...headbang

"There Is Lonely"...sad
Thanks for the laughs, arguments and overall enjoyment for the last umpteen years. It's time for me to retire from Prince.org and engage in the real world...lol. Above all, I appreciated the talent Prince. You were one of a kind.
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Reply #25 posted 05/31/04 8:54pm

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sonic said:

smile

Hi Peeps~~

I just picked up the Vault ,,& was wondering what others thought about it?
I was actually looking for "Crystal ball"..never did find it~~ confused

What are your favorite songs,,worst songs? Im amazed that I havent bought it sooner,,actually, I never knew it EXsisted!
~Any storys behind the making of.....?

Ta~~~ prince


I'm glad you posted this. I got the Vault recently too, i only listened to it once and wasn't that impressed. I actually listened to it again after reading your post and i like it a lot more. I don't think it would make my "best of list" but is showcases some great songs that kinda grow on you and creap up on you as opposed to the "instant classics". I think the thing that really bumed me out was the only track i heard b4 was "old friends 4 sale" original version, and i was expecting the whole record to be that good when as it turns out, not even "old friends 4 sale" on here is that good. Oh well, it's still a good solid CD for the completists, not every album has to be Great!!!
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Reply #26 posted 05/31/04 9:10pm

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Kacey725 said:[quote We know that it was assembled as a means of fulfilling his contract obligations to Warner Bros.,

Keith/Kacey[/quote]

Was it to fulfill contract?? Are you sure, wasn't he long out of his Warners deal by 1999, I mean that's way after Emancipation and Crystal Ball. I always thought Warners had the rights to those tracks cause they paid for the studio time and he was still under contract with them when they were recorded

I viewed this CD as Warners attempt to cash in on some old P material that was sittin around that they happened to have the rights too.
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Reply #27 posted 05/31/04 10:02pm

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SynthiaRose said:

I like the style of jazz on The Vault better than the style on News.

I consider this album a definite artistic achievement for Prince. (These songs do seem half-finished but I treasure it for the mood and improvisation. It is a treasure to see Prince operate like this and hear him just talking between verses and making remarks to the band, even laughing ... I LOVE this album)
:

1. The Rest of My Life (love the sheer positive energy and optimism of this song -- "I'm alive and that's reason enough for me to bust a smile ... today, today, is the best day of the rest of my life " .. music )

2. It's About that Walk (Prince at his flirtatious best! "oh, the prison I could do some time in if I ever go that ass alone." Love the lyrics, delivery, and playfulness of this song. And at the end he tells that girl she better run! lol

3. She Spoke to Me (nice song ... very mellow)

4. 5 Women (ok song. Everyone loves this. It's not my favorite. But i don't skip it).

5. When the Lights Go Down (no strong reaction to this song. But it's a good listen. Love the music)

6. My Little Pill (just a short, pseudo-song with personality like For You, Had U. I like it)

7. ** THERE IS LONELY (This is my absolute favorite song on the album.

Whenever The Vault is playing and this comes on. I stop dead in my tracks. Great atmospheric, evocative song.

He really conjures the essence of lonliness ... he talks about the world getting darker, lying down and dying, the world crumbling, . it's very telling that he then says how in HEAVEN will I ever be alright ... because it's clear the character in this song is feeling the void of God and goodness. Then for him to compare his state of lonely with what Cain felt after killing Abel. He feels like he has no brotherly kin in the world? Wow, such a powerful, short song, made even better when he lowers his vocal register to convey a deeper loneliness when he sings "there is lonely, and there is LONELY and then there is how I feel right now.

As an artist who loves melancholy moments .. I really, really appreciate this song.


8. Old Friends 4 Sale - Sad, introspective song. I love the lyrics "one day a man took my picture and asked if I'd buy it, I said I guess I don't know how. Old Friends for sale, get'em while the getting is hot. But you better watch out they'll trick you until they get what you've got. and they'll show you the friends that they're not Old friends for sale.


9. Sarah. Fun, Fun, Fun song. I would say this is my second favorite, but I just can't rank these songs that i love.

The music kicks ass. The lyrics are great. His confident, bold, playful attitude is clever as hell. I love the way he rolls the name Sarah in his throat when he delivers it.

With lyrics like "that skirt ain't talkin' too long" how can you not love the song.

My favorite verse is when he tells her to git her shit and go or Tina (Turner) won't be alone ... but then he laughs and expresses that he's not really trying to be violent he's just hurt cuz his heart is broken. The playful candor in that song is great. All lovers who've just broken up can relate to wanting the person you just lost expecially when you see them out and about town lookin good. You want to kiss them and push them away at the same time.

10. Extraordinary. Oh, what can I say about this beautiful song. It is the song that brought me back to Prince. When I decided to go hard-core Christian, i threw away my Prince catalog and anything else that could be considered impure or evil. (I had listened to him devoutly since I was 12 - 1983)

So I missed out on Prince between 1994 and 1999. Then, one day whiile driving to Iowa (and after a very emotional break with organized religion due to philosophical differences), I could only get this adult easy listening station -- and they played EXTRAORDINARY.

I was like, who is that, what is that, that sounds like Prince ... I knew his voice after all those years. I was like a drug addict getting her first hit in five years. I thought this is so amazingly and otherworldly beautiful. And I felt sad and missed Prince and the entire catalog.

So, when I got back home, I spent over $500 buying all the Prince stuff they had at Best Buy. nod



.
The special niche in my heart for this album is obvious. I can't believe it didn't become I break-out release for him... but of course there was the rift with WB ... and they released it without him , trying to undercut Rave which was scheduled to drop just months later. (those bastards)

anyway .. happy listening to you.
[This message was edited Mon May 31 10:04:29 2004 by SynthiaRose]


Wow!!! spot on... word 4 word.
U have 2 b my long lost twin or something smile
-"If U don't like,
what U see here
-get the FUNK out."
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Reply #28 posted 05/31/04 11:12pm

cinde

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I remember when I bought the album I didn´t listen to any of the songs after 5 women for 14 days, because I couldn´t get over that. I kept listening to 5 women over and over again. I think that´s one of the greatest songs ever!

I Did the Same thing (not like I haven't done THAT sorta thing many times before) but I TRULY LOVE 5 women
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Reply #29 posted 06/01/04 3:58am

SynthiaRose

0rlando said:

Wow!!! spot on... word 4 word.
U have 2 b my long lost twin or something smile



Soul mate! hug
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