New topic
Printablemusicology is not that bad. i will admit, i had to listen to it every day for 3 weeks until it grew on me and now i love it. so all you newbie haters out there please chill. | |
- E-mail - orgNote -  Report post to moderator |
I love it and i can't stop listening to it. All the way through. Every day. More than once. [This message was edited Wed May 19 8:25:47 2004 by polkadotsuit] | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
TheBigBang said: Bewdy said: As I see it, this is a discussion forum for prince fans, and I am a long term fan of his music, having said that anyone who calls such a mediocre piece of work "genius" or "inspired" must be fanatical or have no ears. ;o)
No, it's not that. It's that Prince is back in the limelight and being appreciated that has most of the hardcores setting aside their true feelings about Musicology. Now, don't get me wrong. Musicology is inspired. But the inspiration is cash money. It's hard to admit to yourself that the guy you stood behind for all of those years, who was fighting against the machine, decided to record an album of very simple, media-friendly music and then pimped it HARD in order to become popular again with the masses. Face it. Why do interviews now? Why do all of this promotion now? Why tour and sing the hits now? (Really, now I can get my Purple Rain on? I'm in the right house now?) You know the answer. It's to make the big bucks. Musicology was clearly conceived to be a comeback. And it worked. Is Musicology the must-have album that virtually every music critic says it is? Not really, but it is good. It's not a masterpiece, for sure, but it is enjoyable...if you accept it for what it is. Some good points in this post.... but I dont think money is the motivation. When I first heard musicology, I understood that (1) Musicology Cd wasn't really geared toward the hardcore Prince audience (2) Prince wanted his music to appeal to the mainstream audience. My belief is that he is turned off by all the crap that is going on in the Music industry, and feels that he, as an icon in Music, should make a postive contribution- in an attempt to try and turn things back toward what he considers is the "right" direction. I guess back in the day, if you had talent, you could get a deal. Now, you dont have to have alot of talent, if you have a look or persona that will make the Record Execs money. I completely accept Musicology for what it is, simple songs that sound nice and are good for radio.... [This message was edited Wed May 19 9:29:51 2004 by ndigo] The road you choose to walk in this life, is a road that leads to the next..... | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
What a wonderfully positive way to introduce yourself to the .org! Outstanding! Welcome! | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Bewdy said: Well I've just heard musicology and I think it the worst material Prince has written to date. I don't what the guy's up to but I'm sure he's finished. I've been a big fan of his music for over a decade now, but I just think this album is the last straw for me, in a long line of worse and worse material.
I'm so dissappointed, esp after all this hype about a comeback. Sounds like he's gone away to me. Not even sure whether i want to see him play this rubbish in concert, even if he does play a few classics. Too bad for you pal. It's a great cd. Your loss! | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Bewdy said: Well I've just heard musicology and I think it the worst material Prince has written to date. I don't what the guy's up to but I'm sure he's finished. I've been a big fan of his music for over a decade now, but I just think this album is the last straw for me, in a long line of worse and worse material.
I'm so dissappointed, esp after all this hype about a comeback. Sounds like he's gone away to me. Not even sure whether i want to see him play this rubbish in concert, even if he does play a few classics. Man, don't you think you're being a bit harsh? I absolutely hated NEWS overall, but there were some parts I did enjoy, I just hate FAST FORWARDING to get to the good parts!! Musicology is DEFINITELY not his best work, but pretty damn good. Sure there are throw away songs like Musicology, Call My Name and Life O The Party, but Million Days, Illusion, On The Couch, Reflection and What Do You Want Me 2 Do? are definitely very cool! I still say there is always SOMETHING good on a Prince album.  "The voter is less important than the man who provides money to the candidate," - Former Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens
Rudedog  | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
laylow03 said: livewire said: "Musicology" is excellent! I've played it nearly every day since receiving a copy at the satellite broadcast and I haven't grown the least bit tired of it -- on the contrary, I love it more.
I wish those who insist the album is "dreadful" would explain why so many lapsed fans (like my own sister) are listening to it and saying, "This is the Prince I remember and didn't think we'd ever see again. Welcome back." Oh, wait, don't tell me... It's a fiendish plot by the fams. We've created a giant mental ray and are controlling the public's mind -- making them think that this sh*tty album is a return to form. I mean, it's not like they could ever think that "Musicology" is a great album of their own accord. Why that's just crazy talk! Peace, David I think you're right and state it beautifully! Bottom line: Musicology won't appeal to people who are looking for a Purple Rain or SOTT. It also won't appeal to people [fans and haters alike] who are looking something innovative and groundbreaking. I think that most people are missing the mark. Musicology is purposely supposed to be a pop album, stripped down, simple...PURPOSELY non-imaginative. Why can't people get that. Sure, it's not the best album...but is that what P was trying to prove? Some of ya'll act like the man is going to retire and we'll not hear from him again... Give the guy a freakin' break! What laylow03 said in that 1st paragraph is what I've told people before they listen to this CD. And just about everyone who's heard the album or at least a couple of songs have liked what they heard. You are asking yourself to hate this CD if you don't look at it as being a fresh new piece of work before you hear it. And like others here, I knew it was going to be catered to the mainstream audience and I was fine with that. As a result, I absolutely love this CD. It's not like what he did in the 80's but that's fine with me. I wanted something that was great for 2004 and I got it. It's too bad the person who started this post missed the boat on this one. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
I'm so sorry that u feel that way  I don't understand...me n HotThang have discussed this 2,she is so NOT impressed with the CD either.??? It really makes me smile  She stole my medallion n she called me a BITCH!!! | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
drwatson said: 17 days 69ways said:
Musicology aint all that bad. TRC, NEWS, Xpectation are all much worse
come off it, surely you mean are all much better? NOPE! I said what I meant and I mean what I say. Man I’m so sick and tired of all this talk about the “musicianship” of TRC. Please!!! These three records signal a new direction for Prince but why do I need to hear Prince playing soulless and derivative elevator jazz. Prince just has not got jazz down yet, just IMO. TRC has three or four good tracks and impenetrable, alienating, and at times offensive lyrics. NES is just boring and devoid of soul and fun and Xpectation which is better than NEWS but worse than TRC is just more drivel jazz. On “Musicology” we got nothing new and Prince is obviously own biggest influence on this record but at least I can get my groove on and have some fun with the music. ego tripping out | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
No biggie if he's not digging it.I haven't even bought the new cd yet. | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
It's clear that some people got the point of the album & tour, but not everyone.
It's all in the title Musicology-- it's a class in pop music. That's why the songs & album are short and not wildly inventive. He is working within the boundaries of pop music. He has abandoned all of his annoying tendencies that have turned the public against him so that he can enrich pop music again. After pursuing music with no boundaries (which led him to virtual obscurity), Prince sees the huge gap in pop music and has decided to fill it again. I agree, he likes the attention, but it's for music itself, as well. It might not be what everyone wants, but it is Prince doing pop again, and it's meant to be compared to Beyonce, Britney, & Justin, not to Parade or Lovesexy, which did a lot to turn the public off (despite what die hard fans might say). On that level I think it's very good. Imagine Beyonce doing Cinamon Girl. I can't do it. Imagine the White Stripes doing On the Couch. I can't do it. Imagine Eminem doing Reflection. Nope. Imagine Andre 3000 singing Call my Name. It hurts just thinking about it. It's still the most diverse album of the year, even if it's not Sign 'o' the Times. And the fact that it is mostly done by one person makes it all the more impressive. Just imagine any of the above artists playing all of the instruments on any of those songs. This album was not created by committee, but by the vision of one artist. I don't think it's one of his best albums, but his intention was to show the pop world how it's done, not to outdo himself. Check this song out at:
http://www.soundclick.com...tmusic.htm | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
andyman91 said: It's clear that some people got the point of the album & tour, but not everyone.
It's all in the title Musicology-- it's a class in pop music. That's why the songs & album are short and not wildly inventive. He is working within the boundaries of pop music. He has abandoned all of his annoying tendencies that have turned the public against him so that he can enrich pop music again. After pursuing music with no boundaries (which led him to virtual obscurity), Prince sees the huge gap in pop music and has decided to fill it again. I agree, he likes the attention, but it's for music itself, as well. It might not be what everyone wants, but it is Prince doing pop again, and it's meant to be compared to Beyonce, Britney, & Justin, not to Parade or Lovesexy, which did a lot to turn the public off (despite what die hard fans might say). On that level I think it's very good. Imagine Beyonce doing Cinamon Girl. I can't do it. Imagine the White Stripes doing On the Couch. I can't do it. Imagine Eminem doing Reflection. Nope. Imagine Andre 3000 singing Call my Name. It hurts just thinking about it. It's still the most diverse album of the year, even if it's not Sign 'o' the Times. And the fact that it is mostly done by one person makes it all the more impressive. Just imagine any of the above artists playing all of the instruments on any of those songs. This album was not created by committee, but by the vision of one artist. I don't think it's one of his best albums, but his intention was to show the pop world how it's done, not to outdo himself.  this is the absolute truth, and I'm damn sick of Beyonce, Justin, and Brittney, and Damita Jo, too.....The road you choose to walk in this life, is a road that leads to the next..... | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
andyman91 said: It's clear that some people got the point of the album & tour, but not everyone.
It's all in the title Musicology-- it's a class in pop music. That's why the songs & album are short and not wildly inventive. He is working within the boundaries of pop music. He has abandoned all of his annoying tendencies that have turned the public against him so that he can enrich pop music again. After pursuing music with no boundaries (which led him to virtual obscurity), Prince sees the huge gap in pop music and has decided to fill it again. I agree, he likes the attention, but it's for music itself, as well. It might not be what everyone wants, but it is Prince doing pop again, and it's meant to be compared to Beyonce, Britney, & Justin, not to Parade or Lovesexy, which did a lot to turn the public off (despite what die hard fans might say). On that level I think it's very good. Imagine Beyonce doing Cinamon Girl. I can't do it. Imagine the White Stripes doing On the Couch. I can't do it. Imagine Eminem doing Reflection. Nope. Imagine Andre 3000 singing Call my Name. It hurts just thinking about it. It's still the most diverse album of the year, even if it's not Sign 'o' the Times. And the fact that it is mostly done by one person makes it all the more impressive. Just imagine any of the above artists playing all of the instruments on any of those songs. This album was not created by committee, but by the vision of one artist. I don't think it's one of his best albums, but his intention was to show the pop world how it's done, not to outdo himself. I second that. Every last word. The world is a comedy for those who think and a tragedy for those who feel.
"You still wanna take me to prison...just because I won't trade humanity for patriotism." | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Novabreaker said: What a wonderfully positive way to introduce yourself to the .org! Outstanding! Welcome!
yeah! too baddie for you newbie bewdie  Welcome to the New World Odor and
the Mythmaking Moonbattery of Obamanation. Chains We Can Bereave In LIBERALISM IS A CONSPIRACY THEORY | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
andyman91 said: It's clear that some people got the point of the album & tour, but not everyone.
It's all in the title Musicology-- it's a class in pop music. That's why the songs & album are short and not wildly inventive. He is working within the boundaries of pop music. He has abandoned all of his annoying tendencies that have turned the public against him so that he can enrich pop music again. After pursuing music with no boundaries (which led him to virtual obscurity), Prince sees the huge gap in pop music and has decided to fill it again. I agree, he likes the attention, but it's for music itself, as well. It might not be what everyone wants, but it is Prince doing pop again, and it's meant to be compared to Beyonce, Britney, & Justin, not to Parade or Lovesexy, which did a lot to turn the public off (despite what die hard fans might say). On that level I think it's very good. Imagine Beyonce doing Cinamon Girl. I can't do it. Imagine the White Stripes doing On the Couch. I can't do it. Imagine Eminem doing Reflection. Nope. Imagine Andre 3000 singing Call my Name. It hurts just thinking about it. It's still the most diverse album of the year, even if it's not Sign 'o' the Times. And the fact that it is mostly done by one person makes it all the more impressive. Just imagine any of the above artists playing all of the instruments on any of those songs. This album was not created by committee, but by the vision of one artist. I don't think it's one of his best albums, but his intention was to show the pop world how it's done, not to outdo himself. | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
andyman91 said: It's clear that some people got the point of the album & tour, but not everyone.
It's all in the title Musicology-- it's a class in pop music. That's why the songs & album are short and not wildly inventive. He is working within the boundaries of pop music. He has abandoned all of his annoying tendencies that have turned the public against him so that he can enrich pop music again. After pursuing music with no boundaries (which led him to virtual obscurity), Prince sees the huge gap in pop music and has decided to fill it again. I agree, he likes the attention, but it's for music itself, as well. It might not be what everyone wants, but it is Prince doing pop again, and it's meant to be compared to Beyonce, Britney, & Justin, not to Parade or Lovesexy, which did a lot to turn the public off (despite what die hard fans might say). On that level I think it's very good. Imagine Beyonce doing Cinamon Girl. I can't do it. Imagine the White Stripes doing On the Couch. I can't do it. Imagine Eminem doing Reflection. Nope. Imagine Andre 3000 singing Call my Name. It hurts just thinking about it. It's still the most diverse album of the year, even if it's not Sign 'o' the Times. And the fact that it is mostly done by one person makes it all the more impressive. Just imagine any of the above artists playing all of the instruments on any of those songs. This album was not created by committee, but by the vision of one artist. I don't think it's one of his best albums, but his intention was to show the pop world how it's done, not to outdo himself. 
musicology is an album that stands on it's own and not to be compared to anything else.lean and tight.not too long. | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Bewdy said: Well I've just heard musicology and I think it the worst material Prince has written to date. I don't what the guy's up to but I'm sure he's finished. I've been a big fan of his music for over a decade now, but I just think this album is the last straw for me, in a long line of worse and worse material.
I'm so dissappointed, esp after all this hype about a comeback. Sounds like he's gone away to me. Not even sure whether i want to see him play this rubbish in concert, even if he does play a few classics. You know I totally agree with you  . The entire Musicolgy album sounds like very out dated material."Love God" | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
TheBigBang said: Bewdy said: As I see it, this is a discussion forum for prince fans, and I am a long term fan of his music, having said that anyone who calls such a mediocre piece of work "genius" or "inspired" must be fanatical or have no ears. ;o)
No, it's not that. It's that Prince is back in the limelight and being appreciated that has most of the hardcores setting aside their true feelings about Musicology. Now, don't get me wrong. Musicology is inspired. But the inspiration is cash money. It's hard to admit to yourself that the guy you stood behind for all of those years, who was fighting against the machine, decided to record an album of very simple, media-friendly music and then pimped it HARD in order to become popular again with the masses. Face it. Why do interviews now? Why do all of this promotion now? Why tour and sing the hits now? (Really, now I can get my Purple Rain on? I'm in the right house now?) You know the answer. It's to make the big bucks. Musicology was clearly conceived to be a comeback. And it worked. Is Musicology the must-have album that virtually every music critic says it is? Not really, but it is good. It's not a masterpiece, for sure, but it is enjoyable...if you accept it for what it is.  , well put"Love God" | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
andyman91 said: It's clear that some people got the point of the album & tour, but not everyone.
It's all in the title Musicology-- it's a class in pop music. That's why the songs & album are short and not wildly inventive. He is working within the boundaries of pop music. He has abandoned all of his annoying tendencies that have turned the public against him so that he can enrich pop music again. After pursuing music with no boundaries (which led him to virtual obscurity), Prince sees the huge gap in pop music and has decided to fill it again. I agree, he likes the attention, but it's for music itself, as well. It might not be what everyone wants, but it is Prince doing pop again, and it's meant to be compared to Beyonce, Britney, & Justin, not to Parade or Lovesexy, which did a lot to turn the public off (despite what die hard fans might say). On that level I think it's very good. Imagine Beyonce doing Cinamon Girl. I can't do it. Imagine the White Stripes doing On the Couch. I can't do it. Imagine Eminem doing Reflection. Nope. Imagine Andre 3000 singing Call my Name. It hurts just thinking about it. It's still the most diverse album of the year, even if it's not Sign 'o' the Times. And the fact that it is mostly done by one person makes it all the more impressive. Just imagine any of the above artists playing all of the instruments on any of those songs. This album was not created by committee, but by the vision of one artist. I don't think it's one of his best albums, but his intention was to show the pop world how it's done, not to outdo himself. beautifully said, but I disagree that it isn't one of his best. I think for the reasons you stated above; as an excercise in pop music, it is one of his best! As a whole, not a Parade or SOTT work of genius, but songs like IEWTMIUL definitely are genius. | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
the MASSES think otherwise. dain-daingerous
"u've got a wonderful ass." | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
|
What a bunch of asskissers... like always, trying to defend lil' Prince. Like I said before, there's nothing new in Musicology, it's a tribute to his musical heroes, including himself! The Rainbow Children was much better. |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
I think it's fucked up that Bewdy is getting shit from you guys for expressing an opinion. You guys have no problem with those who ritually praise everything Prince does, but as soon as someone criticizes him, you get on the defensive.
Not cool at all. "You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." "
Al Pacino- Scarface | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
prince has a new album out???!! | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
U U DREADFUL | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
JOEYCOCO said: the MASSES think otherwise.
Let me first say i really like musicology, but this is a really weak argument, with that argument Usher's CD is a masterpiece. I think most prince fans agree some of his best work is his least comercially successful | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Marrk said: newbies.
 ... or MJ fans | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
daydreamer said: What a bunch of asskissers... like always, trying to defend lil' Prince. Like I said before, there's nothing new in Musicology, it's a tribute to his musical heroes, including himself! The Rainbow Children was much better.
well the same was said about nEWs and how groundbreaking it wasn't | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
