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PrintableThreadBare said: But, Jimi stepped up his level of playing (oh gosh, I feel some sports cliches bubbling)
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Supernova said: ThreadBare said: But, Jimi stepped up his level of playing (oh gosh, I feel some sports cliches bubbling)
Don't do iiit! Nova, I tried. Honest, I did. Please forgive what I'm about to do ... Jimi Hendrix: Always brought his 'A' game! He always gave 110%! He was always willing to take it to the next level! He always played beyond his capabilities! He understood that he had to BE the guitar! That guitar was en fuego! (Ha! Literally...) Whenever he played, he got his man! He brought it! He understood that the sum of he and the Experience were greater than their parts! Whew! I'm better now. | |
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The high school comparisons and new words like "Jimi-phites" just make me laugh at this stage in my life. When one makes a statement like "the real truth hurts" one should read how much time they spent analyzing an artist. It's just funny to me but when I stop laughing it makes me wonder whether you've even felt the music.
Who has influenced who and who has done what aren't really important. What is important is the fact that people are still talking about an artist that died in 1970 with a 4 year professional recording career. Sounds like an influential artist to me, maybe like Robert Johnson or Art Tatum or Miles Davis. Artists come and go but a select few influence people forever. IMO, Prince and Jimi are in the same category so take some time to listen to not who their influences were but where they took their influences to inspire another whole generation of artists. | |
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ThreadBare said: In your references to Jimi's protests to not be turned into a "legend" or savior of the guitar, one sees your answer: Jimi was seen as such because of his staggering innovation on the guitar. Yes, he had influences. He didn't just appear on the music scene fully formed. Here's a cat who'd cut his teeth on the chitlin circuit.
But, Jimi stepped up his level of playing (oh gosh, I feel some sports cliches bubbling) to the degree that he was heads and shoulders above his prominent peers. This isn't to suggest that he was the best (even back during his heydey). But, he was the guitarist who was being followed around by other rock guitarists. he was the one who was leaving his peers dumbfounded and awestruck. No, he wasn't the NEO of the guitar, but you listen to that really good Hendrix tribute album and others like it, and you hear -- song after song -- guitarists whose styles are woefully close to Jimi's. And, when you hear that, you realize that didn't just happen for the studio session. Jimi had such a real influence on the way electric blues were played that you can hear his style in everyone from Ernie Isley to Doyle Bramhall II to all the cats on those tribute discs. Yes, Jimi was a student of those other artists. But, where are their tribute albums and biopics and documentaries? Hendrix has garnered these tributes for a reason. My post of the day!!!! 
Well, I agree. What we need to do in analyzing the legacies of modern musical artists is make 2 assumptions: 1. They had influences who were great artists in their own right. 2. There may have existed contemporaries who, for whatever reason, didn't enjoy the exposure as the artists of whom we speak, but were as or MORE talented and accomplished as the artists of whom we speak. If we work on those assumptions, we can have discussions like this without all of the qualificationsand nuanced disputes, Can I get co-signers on this???? Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016
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Supernova said: [b] The title track to Electric Ladyland even contains Jimi's Mayfieldesque vocal performance.
` [This message was edited Wed May 5 9:43:46 2004 by Supernova] Brilliant innit? I wish he'd done more in that style. "...all you need ...is justa touch...of mojo hand....." | |
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ThreadBare said: Supernova said: Don't do iiit! Nova, I tried. Honest, I did. Please forgive what I'm about to do ... Jimi Hendrix: Always brought his 'A' game! He always gave 110%! He was always willing to take it to the next level! He always played beyond his capabilities! He understood that he had to BE the guitar! That guitar was en fuego! (Ha! Literally...) Whenever he played, he got his man! He brought it! He understood that the sum of he and the Experience were greater than their parts! Whew! I'm better now. At least you left LeBron James out of the whole thing.  This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes. | |
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MrTation said: Supernova said: The title track to Electric Ladyland even contains Jimi's Mayfieldesque vocal performance.
` [This message was edited Wed May 5 9:43:46 2004 by Supernova] Brilliant innit? I wish he'd done more in that style. Yup, yup.  Jimi wasn't a great singer, but he had a good falsetto.
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Supernova said: ThreadBare said: Nova, I tried. Honest, I did. Please forgive what I'm about to do ... Jimi Hendrix: Always brought his 'A' game! He always gave 110%! He was always willing to take it to the next level! He always played beyond his capabilities! He understood that he had to BE the guitar! That guitar was en fuego! (Ha! Literally...) Whenever he played, he got his man! He brought it! He understood that the sum of he and the Experience were greater than their parts! Whew! I'm better now. At least you left LeBron James out of the whole thing. Thanks for the reminder: "If Jimi had brought his A+ game, his name would've been changed automatically to Lebron James Hendrix..." | |
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ThreadBare said: Jimi Hendrix: He always gave 110%!  I take it you haven't seen the Woodstock performance? (There's more to it than the star spangled banner and boy is it uninspired) | |
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Trickology said: Zappa was as great as Jimi on guitar Rundgren was as great as Jimi on guitar Theres more to guitar than Hendrix. Now this is doo doo Those guys though great couldnt sit in the same room with Hendrix. Guitar is EXEMPLIFIED by HENDRIX Yoda Luminous beings are we...not this crude matter.
Is this 2morrow or just the END of time? The Funk will always b with u "I've got a face, not just my race, Bang Bang I've got you babe!" | |
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ThreadBare said: No, he wasn't the NEO of the guitar,.
Oh yes he was I like the reference as well. Hendrix was Johnny B. Goode! Luminous beings are we...not this crude matter.
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hectim said: ThreadBare said: Jimi Hendrix: He always gave 110%! I take it you haven't seen the Woodstock performance? (There's more to it than the star spangled banner and boy is it uninspired)You're mistaken. I have that CD. I love that performance. Red House is blistering, the instrumental jam is awe-inspiring ... A lot of good moments on that disc. You know, I don't subscribe to human perfection (ascribed perfection, maybe, but that's another topic in another forum). So, I don't pretend Hendrix was perfect, that his guitars were always in tune (we know that wasn't the case) or that he never had a flub. We know that Prince -- for all the wonderful entertaining he's done over the years -- hasn't been perfect, has hit wrong notes and has had lackluster moments. None of that detracts from these entertainers' overall contributions. It's all about consistency, man. For every subpar performance or song you reference, there's a "Little Wing," "Rainy Day..." or "Bold as Love." | |
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ThreadBare said: hectim said: I take it you haven't seen the Woodstock performance? (There's more to it than the star spangled banner and boy is it uninspired)You're mistaken. I have that CD. I love that performance. Red House is blistering, the instrumental jam is awe-inspiring ... A lot of good moments on that disc. You know, I don't subscribe to human perfection (ascribed perfection, maybe, but that's another topic in another forum). So, I don't pretend Hendrix was perfect, that his guitars were always in tune (we know that wasn't the case) or that he never had a flub. We know that Prince -- for all the wonderful entertaining he's done over the years -- hasn't been perfect, has hit wrong notes and has had lackluster moments. None of that detracts from these entertainers' overall contributions. It's all about consistency, man. For every subpar performance or song you reference, there's a "Little Wing," "Rainy Day..." or "Bold as Love."
By all accounts , the band Jimi had assembled for "Woodstock" was under-rehearsed. Also, they went on about a half day late and were up most of the night before .Jimi's performance throughout , however, is outstanding.Very impressive playing."Villanova Junction" is the  "...all you need ...is justa touch...of mojo hand....." | |
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Look you assholes, this has gone on long enough. Nobody has to defend HENDRIX! Jimi is a FUCKING LEGEND! What other guitar player has influenced guiar playing like Jimi SINCE Jimi? NONE. Jimi has influenced and inspired more guitarists than 10 Princes and he always will. Why? Because he CHANGED THE GAME. Silly ass muthafuckas trying to play semantics about this and that because Jimi is greater than your IDOL Prince. Wake up little boys and girls. ElectricLadyLand is EVERYWHERE, even in Paisley Park.
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BlaqueKnight said: [color=blue:1cc187d985]Look you assholes, this has gone on long enough. Nobody has to defend HENDRIX! Jimi is a FUCKING LEGEND! What other guitar player has influenced guiar playing like Jimi SINCE Jimi? NONE. Jimi has influenced and inspired more guitarists than 10 Princes and he always will. Why? Because he CHANGED THE GAME. Silly ass muthafuckas trying to play semantics about this and that because Jimi is greater than your IDOL Prince. Wake up little boys and girls. ElectricLadyLand is EVERYWHERE, even in Paisley Park.
Peace. [/color]aw go to hell  The Org is the short yellow bus of the Prince Internet fan community. | |
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Blaquekight is pissed cause they said Jimi was not the end all be all of guitar. awwwww :"
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I know he is you idol, but don´t cry | |
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7salles said: I know he is you idol, but don´t cry
Jimi is not my idol. Jimi is not my favorite guitarist either, but every great guitar player under the sun has acknowledged his contribution to the craft. Only the dumbfucks on Prince.org have the audacity to attempt to defame that. It may happen on here, but in the REAL world Jimi WILL ALWAY RULE, BITCHES!!!! HA! 
Prince is good, but he's always wanted to be known as one of the greatest. HE'S NOT and never will be. After 28 albums, if you can't do it you never will. It only took Jimi a few years because he HAD IT. Prince doesn't. Too many of his peers smoke him on guitar and all the feigned press in the world can't change that. Prince's song arrangements and the "MLPS sound" are his claim to fame like Teddy Riley's "newjack swing" sound. Prince has lots of contributions in the way of songwriting, but almost none in the way of guitar playing. Face facts, idolworshippers. [This message was edited Sat May 8 9:18:46 2004 by BlaqueKnight] | |
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