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Reply #30 posted 05/04/04 7:37am

thebanishedone

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yeah war was cool but poor compared to stuff he is doing now.
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Reply #31 posted 05/04/04 2:15pm

thebanishedone

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i'm sure that prince couldnt play some of his own guitar solos in 1997-1999 period like why you wanna treat me so bad solo.also look at that awful rendention of computer blue from all access.
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Reply #32 posted 05/04/04 3:50pm

budlite

I've been playing guitar for 20 years and have never heard anything as RIDICULOUS as this thread!! How does somebody as gifted as Prince suddenly start to play "lousy?" It's impossible, that's how.You sit there beefin' about his sound...why,coz he didn't use YOUR favorite distortion pedal? Didn't like the fact that he didn't play the color/shape guitar that YOU like? Did he at least have his shirt open the way you like?? Listen, anybody who considers themselves a real fan of his would know that when it comes to his music, there is NO "joy in repitition"...that's just a song! He has NEVER done things in the manner in which it was expected. His approach to songs/shows/tours has been to do it however the spirit moves him to do it! Whether he plays 1 note or a flurry of notes,or none at all...it's how he feels it that dictates how it'll be presented at that particular moment. You even go so far as to say he was only lousy for exactly 3 years?!?!? How foolish is that? And after 3 years he suddenly got his mojo back...PLEASE!!! How many years have YOU been lousy on guitar? Haven't you ever wanted to try new sounds or effects or guitars? I'm not saying you don't have a right to your opinion, but if you're gonna make it public,you should preface it by saying that "I was very upset coz Prince play the way I wanted him to!"

"Ladies and gentleman...on the guitar, Budlite!!!"
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Reply #33 posted 05/04/04 3:55pm

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MAN ,i only said that distortion isn't the kind prince likes to play.belive it or not prince definetly wasn't in guitar form in thosae years and yes suddenly in the year 2000 he started playing better then ever.
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Reply #34 posted 05/04/04 4:02pm

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i know we all like prince but please stop be ignorant.listen to live recordings from 1997-1999.after that listen to recordings from earlier period and latter period if you don't see the diffrence,you are tone deff.
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Reply #35 posted 05/04/04 4:07pm

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user badlite said:his sound...why,coz he didn't use YOUR favorite distortion pedal? Didn't like the fact that he didn't play the color/shape guitar that YOU like? Did he at least have his shirt open the way you like?? -HEHE I DUNNO MAN,MAYBE THOSE ARE THE THINGS YOU LIKE,NOT ME.HEHE.
AND why are you so angry is prince maybe your brother or somethin'? hehe
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Reply #36 posted 05/04/04 4:13pm

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budlite said:

I've been playing guitar for 20 years and have never heard anything as RIDICULOUS as this thread!! How does somebody as gifted as Prince suddenly start to play "lousy?" It's impossible, that's how.

- I dont think this is ridiculous. I really feel like the 97-2000 was Prince´s weakest guitar playing period. Temptation gave some real good tips that show that Prince could play some brilliant guitars then, but most of that period is weak. Rave 2000 is only an example.
I don´t think the problem was the guitar playing itself. The problem is that Prince seemed to be really uninspired then. For me, those years were the darkest in Prince´s career. The songs were weak, the guitar playing was weak and the band sounded weak because of KJ. No band sounds good with a weak drummer. I heard it from several musicians.
I am glad that now Prince is great, inspired. He seemed to have recovered the passion for making music and playing. biggrin
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Reply #37 posted 05/04/04 4:19pm

7salles

There is nothign ridiculous on this thread, in that period it seems prince didn´t play much guitar, if he didn´t play much live you can be sure that on the rehearsals he was not playing much, it´s obvious he was not studying the instrument, so it´s natural and normal that he lost some of his proficiency. Then, around 2000 he started praticing very much and playing guitar often. So now he plays sh_t like hong kong rocks, and blews everyone away. He NEVER played as good as he is playing now, and this is a fact. And his guitar playing during these years were unispired most of the times, of course he did great solos, because he is a genious he will never stop of doing great things now and them. But his playing was not as good as before because maybe his head was headed to other things, like personal life, or piano, etc..
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Reply #38 posted 05/04/04 7:23pm

budlite

thebanishedone said:

user badlite said:his sound...why,coz he didn't use YOUR favorite distortion pedal? Didn't like the fact that he didn't play the color/shape guitar that YOU like? Did he at least have his shirt open the way you like?? -HEHE I DUNNO MAN,MAYBE THOSE ARE THE THINGS YOU LIKE,NOT ME.HEHE.
AND why are you so angry is prince maybe your brother or somethin'? hehe



Kinda ironic that you chose the name "thebanishedone" and make the claims you make. Hmm?? Obviously,you and a few of your like-minded sheep missed the point I was making. That's ok, the journey just takes longer for some...


"Ladies and gentleman...BUDLITE on the guitar!!"
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Reply #39 posted 05/05/04 6:09pm

Love2tha9s

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What year was Chaos and Disorder released because I thought he rifted all the way through

that one? I had a copy but somehow it got lost. I was wondering if it fell into your time

period.
"Why'd I waste my kisses on you baby?" R.I.P. Prince You've finally found your way back home. Well Done.
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Reply #40 posted 05/06/04 6:28am

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so budlite you call me and other 20 people that share my opinion.sheeps?
all orgers that support mine opinion-7salles,gustavo ribas ,temptation,cloud guitar,steem forest,jpav,andrecrabtree,kool eaze,funkybabyandfunkybabysiters, you call all these people a sheeps????
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Reply #41 posted 05/06/04 6:41am

7salles

sheep sheep
sheep sheep

sheep sheep


we are not sheeps :/
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Reply #42 posted 05/06/04 6:49am

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love2the9's chaos and disorder had rock songs but it isn't a real rock records.also all the guitar solos beside zannele,i will,dinner with delores are disapointing.
chaos is released in 1996,but songs are older.
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Reply #43 posted 05/06/04 7:21am

7salles

the guitar solo of chaos of disorder title track is up there on the kurt cobain standarts. I don´t like that solo. chaos disorder is pop rock, it is not edgy. But i love zanalee the riff is great.
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Reply #44 posted 05/06/04 8:58am

budlite

thebanishedone said:

so budlite you call me and other 20 people that share my opinion.sheeps?
all orgers that support mine opinion-7salles,gustavo ribas ,temptation,cloud guitar,steem forest,jpav,andrecrabtree,kool eaze,funkybabyandfunkybabysiters, you call all these people a sheeps????


Sounds like a "flock" to me! What bothers me most is that you can't even hear/see how biased and contradictory alot of what you're saying really is. But hey, as I said before, we ALL have the right to our opinions even if they don't jive with one another.I just happen to think that you and your flock will one day see things as they are and not as you romanticise them to be. That's the job of another shepherd...."I ain't The One."

Peace & B Wild!
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Reply #45 posted 05/06/04 8:59am

budlite

My Baaaahhhddddd!
[This message was edited Thu May 6 9:01:34 2004 by budlite]
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Reply #46 posted 05/06/04 10:23am

Savannah

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There was alot of discussion during 1997-1998 in the Emancipation Pages about Prince's guitar playing being a bit sloppy. "Sloppy" not meaning bad or that he was having equipment problems rather that many were noticing the change at some of his live shows. The unofficial word was that Prince might have been suffering from a little touch of arthritis.. which is nothing to be ashamed of at his age and experience. Whatever the cause was.. by 1998 there was no talk of it and it seemed to have cleared up.
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Reply #47 posted 05/06/04 10:29am

7salles

Savanah, it could pretty much be this. The main fact here is that Prince problably played too much hours per days without resting his fingers, and when he was not on the guitar he was probably on the piano, him having arthrits at the time could explain this very well. I wanna hear an solo he did at the time where he is REAALLY burning the frets. If i ever hear this i will keep my mouth shut.
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Reply #48 posted 05/06/04 4:12pm

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prince had arhtritis?
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Reply #49 posted 05/06/04 4:22pm

7salles

I don't think Prince was not inspired for whole 3 years, but he was playing was not up there to his standarts. It's normal for god's sake. He is not God, if he stops playing he will slow his skill as any other human. Even Steve Vai NEEDs to keep playing hours per day to be in shape why prince wouldn't?
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Reply #50 posted 05/07/04 1:22pm

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7salles said:

Savanah, it could pretty much be this. The main fact here is that Prince problably played too much hours per days without resting his fingers, and when he was not on the guitar he was probably on the piano, him having arthrits at the time could explain this very well. I wanna hear an solo he did at the time where he is REAALLY burning the frets. If i ever hear this i will keep my mouth shut.


One thing I do remember vividly was a solo live did for the song "Somebody's Somebody"
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Reply #51 posted 05/07/04 2:24pm

brneyes007

I think Prince was going through alot at that time. One of them problems probable was being married to Mayte. He even looked different. He lost alot of weight etc... Do anyone know why they ended the marriage? Well actually he had the marriage annulled because he was going through that not wanting to be in a contract thing. Why did they split?
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Reply #52 posted 05/07/04 2:41pm

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forget those years, i think his guitar playing has suffered in the ONA tour just cos he hardly plays it. its a shame.
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Reply #53 posted 05/07/04 6:50pm

thebanishedone

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his guitar playing suffering on ona tour.man you better listen to the stuff from that tour.he was amazing.he played crazy fast licks on xenophobia,wailling solo on anna stasia.
he was great.
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