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Reply #150 posted 05/12/04 2:01pm

moonshine

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laylow03 said:

this site is from a prince fan`s point of view...but interesting what she says about
alchemy and the soapstone...
http://www.prince3922.fre...rune.html.


hecky-thump , thats my article from my site , this thread has passed me by , but judging
from what I've read am I officially a minion of the devil or something , I need to know mad

P.S.I'm not a woman
P.P.S I'm not a man
P.P.P.S I am something that you'll never understand
Check out Chocadelica , updated with Lotusflow3r and MPLSound album lyrics April 2nd 2009 :
http://homepage.ntlworld....home2.html
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Reply #151 posted 05/12/04 2:12pm

chiltonmusic

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moonshine said:

laylow03 said:

this site is from a prince fan`s point of view...but interesting what she says about
alchemy and the soapstone...
http://www.prince3922.fre...rune.html.


hecky-thump , thats my article from my site , this thread has passed me by , but judging
from what I've read am I officially a minion of the devil or something , I need to know mad

P.S.I'm not a woman
P.P.S I'm not a man
P.P.P.S I am something that you'll never understand


Well Laylow I have to disagree with all this. For starters the Prince symbol is in essence the mixture of the male female symbol and he has been rocking that since way back in the day before the name change. I think with the horn he was trying to make it look more profound. I don't think that he was copying or the onyx anymore than that original symbol does.
As for TRC CD I don't have any real theories on that one other than it is what it is. See when we get into symbolic meanings and the whole 9 I think that there are just too many factors that can swing from one end to the next. I think that can be read from one way to the other. For example I know some people who feel wearing a cross or the Star of David is idolitry. You get my drift. That is why I rather look at what a person does in practice and what they profess more so than hidden meanings.
That is not to totally discredit the source of your post. I mean Hitler was big into the occult and it was evident in their choice of symbol the Swastika. So you can take my response for what it is worth I guess.
Peace
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Reply #152 posted 05/12/04 2:13pm

chiltonmusic

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moonshine said:

laylow03 said:

this site is from a prince fan`s point of view...but interesting what she says about
alchemy and the soapstone...
http://www.prince3922.fre...rune.html.


hecky-thump , thats my article from my site , this thread has passed me by , but judging
from what I've read am I officially a minion of the devil or something , I need to know mad

P.S.I'm not a woman
P.P.S I'm not a man
P.P.P.S I am something that you'll never understand


Well Laylow I have to disagree with all this. For starters the Prince symbol is in essence the mixture of the male female symbol and he has been rocking that since way back in the day before the name change. I think with the horn he was trying to make it look more profound. I don't think that he was copying or the onyx anymore than that original symbol does.
As for TRC CD I don't have any real theories on that one other than it is what it is. See when we get into symbolic meanings and the whole 9 I think that there are just too many factors that can swing from one end to the next. I think that can be read from one way to the other. For example I know some people who feel wearing a cross or the Star of David is idolitry. You get my drift. That is why I rather look at what a person does in practice and what they profess more so than hidden meanings.
That is not to totally discredit the source of your post. I mean Hitler was big into the occult and it was evident in their choice of symbol the Swastika. So you can take my response for what it is worth I guess.
Peace
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Reply #153 posted 05/12/04 4:08pm

delectable137

sad wow you have a point i mean i have kinda always felt prince was sorta weird in that department with mixing god and his music together on non christain songs now that part of prince i dont like at all there is something strange about him for real
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Reply #154 posted 05/12/04 9:25pm

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MoneyMade said:

In Adding...



-Prince-

I just don't believe in time," he says. "If you don't hold yourself up to these artificial measurements we as human beings have put in place for time, then you don't worry about aging. And if you're not worrying about time, and if you don't have that ticking clock inside of you stressing you out, then maybe you won't age."

Prince sits back on the sofa and ponders further, then offers up another nugget that should please those who are delighted he's making a grand-scale comeback.

"If I believe I'm going to live forever," he says with a grin, "then just maybe I will."




ANY CHRISTIAN COULD CONSIDER THIS BLASPHEMOUS


What is Blasphemous about this? Chritstian believe in eternal life. So I don't hear him saying anything different than that.
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Reply #155 posted 05/12/04 9:46pm

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Anxiety said:



Prince is a devil doll. The prophecy has been fulfilled. Mentos is the Freshmaker.


falloff Oh God...
The world is a comedy for those who think and a tragedy for those who feel.

"You still wanna take me to prison...just because I won't trade humanity for patriotism."
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Reply #156 posted 05/12/04 10:45pm

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Prince- Satanic no.BUT!!!!! I gotta story to tell. Teri Copley the former wife of Micki Free and now born again christian gave me several accounts of her dealings with Prince. I'm quoting her by saying "He's evil".Many stories about Prince during the China Club days that would make all the hardcore fans do an about face.But I had a conversation with her around the time that Prince and Mayte lost their child and I asked her what she thought about it.Quoting her, she said that "Prince has demons in his family". And she wasn't talking about demons as in the exorcist etc... She was talking about family blood lines that go back thousands and thousands of years where they are traceable to evil doers throughout history.She said that baby was an abomination and that God would not it walk the earth, hence if Prince would have let it live his "secret" would have been out. There's more but I'll have to get back at y'all.



The man's child died, and the only "secret" is that you, and Teri Copley, are crazy bitches.
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Reply #157 posted 05/13/04 8:36am

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RiccoTheArtist said:

TipN4U said:

[color=red:e9c53e48cd]Since man has begun to form the intelligence to create fear there has allways been a FACTOR in the whole satanic "FEAR" scene: from superimposed movies of what SATAN actually is and/or Lucifer and or * * * I will state this simply, that MANKIND made fear and invented the FEAR and ANGER within themselves to be swayed in the intellect. Satan, tho angels xhist, may just might be given unconditional love and left alone simply by the Judgement of the father/creator IAH of all. In representation of love... to persecute any human in any form goes against the "grain" of "HE WHO HAS NOT SINNED CAST THE FIRST STONE" to which we all have sinned (including myself). Simply put, in retrobution to a form of witch hunt or otherwise, let us all live in love and let our actions EVEN IN THOUGHT (are a sin)... be forgiving on all accounts of any thing we wish not to be done unto us. You can break down every form of Positive and or Negative Polarity in anyones life and call it SATAN... we must be accountable for our own actions to WITHSTAND the trials and tribulations within it. Let Prince Rogers Nelson live his life, as he has not harmed you or "eye" with any type of convictions. And you will live a more peaceful life just enjoying the act of being alive to be able to share... each other in love forever.

Thank you kindly (read again if need be)
GODBLISS
SingMia
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Amen!
I second that Amen. Amen Amen Amen.
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Reply #158 posted 05/13/04 1:20pm

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Why is that anything not of western(american or european) thought is sinful,blasphemous, or of "the devil". I'm specifically referring to the Ankh. It represents Life. Not lust, but life. In fact it was the Romans who took what was a symbol for life and tranformed it into an instrument of death....The Cross! Funny how western thought holds the romans in such high regard, while anything or anyone that came before them(Africans) are regarded as "pagans" or "savages". Take a look at your dollar bill. See that pyramid? African. See that eye above it? African. Take a look at the capitol of this country. That washington monument...yup African. If you dont want any "portals to other deminsions in your home" then send all your currency this way, cause that shit is replete with kemetic(Egyptian/African) symbols. Only, the orginal intent of the symbols has been bastardized to represent control rather than honor to God. If Prince was referring to reincarnation...so what? There are billions of people on the planet who believe in reincarnation. Doesnt the Bible say that Jesus rose on the 3rd day? If thats not representative of reincarnation then what is? I guess what prompted me to post this is the utter arrogance of implying that so-called Christian beleifs are the only relevant beliefs in the world, and that everything else is a mistake.
"If you'll set your mind free baby, and maybe you'll understand"

peace.
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Reply #159 posted 05/13/04 6:38pm

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Since man has begun to form the intelligence to create fear there has allways been a FACTOR in the whole satanic "FEAR" scene: from superimposed movies of what SATAN actually is and/or Lucifer and or * * * I will state this simply, that MANKIND made fear and invented the FEAR and ANGER within themselves to be swayed in the intellect. Satan, tho angels xhist, may just might be given unconditional love and left alone simply by the Judgement of the father/creator IAH of all. In representation of love... to persecute any human in any form goes against the "grain" of "HE WHO HAS NOT SINNED CAST THE FIRST STONE" to which we all have sinned (including myself). Simply put, in retrobution to a form of witch hunt or otherwise, let us all live in love and let our actions EVEN IN THOUGHT (are a sin)... be forgiving on all accounts of any thing we wish not to be done unto us. You can break down every form of Positive and or Negative Polarity in anyones life and call it SATAN... we must be accountable for our own actions to WITHSTAND the trials and tribulations within it. Let Prince Rogers Nelson live his life, as he has not harmed you or "eye" with any type of convictions. And you will live a more peaceful life just enjoying the act of being alive to be able to share... each other in love forever.

Thank you kindly (read again if need be)
GODBLISS
SingMia

AMEN GODBLISS GODKISS angel
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Reply #160 posted 05/13/04 9:56pm

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LovesexyIsThe1 said:

Jasziah said:


As recent as 1996, Prince did state that Jesus was God in his lyrics to "The Holy River"

Who gave U life when there was none at all?
Who gave the sun permission 2 rise up everyday? (Ooh, oh yes)
Let me tell it (Go'n)
If U ask God 2 love U longer
Every breath U take will make U stronger
Keepin' U happy (happy) and proud 2 call His name (Go'n and say it)
Jesus (Jesus)


But as a Jehovah's Witness, sadly Prince has lost his grasp of this Truth and revelation of Jesus. He does believe in a different one these days.


err Tink, tink, tink... you guys hit the nail on the head with these posts. Finally, people who agree with me, and I them.

lol

After Prince became a jw, I did some research into this man-made religion. It's pretty scary actually, but I keep them in prayer. One day they will study the true Word, without a magazine or book written by some man over 100 years ago, and their eyes will be open by the Holy Spirit. God will guide them to the correct Truth if they learn to follow Him and not a man (Charles Russell).

Go on... feel free to persecute the truth.




Okay I find it interesting that you say that they follow a man and not the scripture. All denominations follow some man theory on the bible. I think this is because people are too lazy to read it for themselves and get the truth, but the JW's are really not any farther off than the United Methodist's or the Baptists or the Church of Christ etc. etc.. I mean if they are following the theory's of a man then what are all these other church's even the non denominational ones doing?
I have my agreements with the JW's and my disagreements same with the Mormons, but one thing is for certain they all follow the teachings of Christ and that is important. I mean when was the last time you followed someone's teachings that you did not believe in? I think their argument in circular in that even if they don't think Christ is the Messiah they still follow his teachings as a way of reaching oneness with God.
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Reply #161 posted 05/13/04 10:10pm

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EvilWhiteMale said:

crenshaw said:



A quote from one of the recently voted worst Prince songs on another thread: "The Devil got you thinking he's invisible, but how he make you act is real (stupid)."

When Satanists say that they do not worship the devil, can it be little more than self-deception? To quote (paraphrase, maybe) another pop culture artifact, THE USUAL SUSPECTS: "The greatest trick the devil ever pulled off was to convince the world that he does not exist."

I do not buy the idea that Satan has nothing to do with Satanism. It is an absurdity upon an absurdity, in the hopes that we will find it too absurd to believe.

But perhaps it really is true, because the true anti-Christ is all about worshipping the self above all else, and in that case, one would not worship any devil but themselves.


What's wrong with worshipping ourselves? At least we're sure of our own existence. God is just a theory at this point. Check out what I posted above.



Okay then explain this. If God is just a theory then what is Satan whom God created? I mean we all make our choices in life and if you are truly a servant of Satan... Well I will just put it this way its your soul. To say that your a satanist but you don't belive in satan is a lie and tricknology of course you' re a satanist so that much is to be expected. I mean why not say you are athiest, or agnostic? Why worship satan? What is the point?
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Reply #162 posted 05/13/04 10:47pm

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I think your heart is in the right place, and don't take this personal, but people need to make Jesus Christ their saviour, not just follow his teachings. You can't get to Heaven through works, it's only by Grace. There is also a lot of misinformation out there that tells people they can become one with God. We are not God or gods, we are to worship God, Jesus Christ, and The Holy Spirit. That's the way to true salvation.
[This message was edited Thu May 13 22:47:57 2004 by jstarr2000]
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Reply #163 posted 05/13/04 11:09pm

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jstarr2000 said:

I think your heart is in the right place, and don't take this personal, but people need to make Jesus Christ their saviour, not just follow his teachings. You can't get to Heaven through works, it's only by Grace. There is also a lot of misinformation out there that tells people they can become one with God. We are not God or gods, we are to worship God, Jesus Christ, and The Holy Spirit. That's the way to true salvation.
[This message was edited Thu May 13 22:47:57 2004 by jstarr2000]



I'm normally the quiet and rational type, but, "CAN WE KILL THIS RIDICULOUS THREAD PLEASE!!!!!"

That's all I have to say.
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Reply #164 posted 05/17/04 12:59pm

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jstarr2000 said:

I think your heart is in the right place, and don't take this personal, but people need to make Jesus Christ their saviour, not just follow his teachings. You can't get to Heaven through works, it's only by Grace. There is also a lot of misinformation out there that tells people they can become one with God. We are not God or gods, we are to worship God, Jesus Christ, and The Holy Spirit. That's the way to true salvation.
[This message was edited Thu May 13 22:47:57 2004 by jstarr2000]


That's sooooo lovely. It just simply doesn't apply to those of other faiths. We all have our own road to salvation (and yes, there's more than one).
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Reply #165 posted 05/31/04 4:48pm

HolyWine

thanks 4 these sites - they are interesting.

one need only let down their guard a bit and read and study with an open thot-process - do not block immediately.

remember: perspective.

keep trying 2 let go of fear.

TRUTH connects.....
***PEACE, HARMONY, AND FUN***
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Reply #166 posted 05/31/04 5:18pm

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thats it im getting the tattoo, i want the mark of the purple devil. evil prince
\o/\o/ ° The Breakdown = Best Prince song for 20 years
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Reply #167 posted 06/01/04 9:41pm

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Maybe some of the board members of other faiths think I'm preaching to you, or being critical of you, but I'm simply relaying the Gospel. Keep in mind, I'm not Pat Robertson or Jerry Falwell. I'm just a Prince fan like everyone else on this board. I understand how many people are critical of organized religion, but that has nothing to do with your own personal relationship with God. And through praying and reading the Bible, I've found Jesus is the way to salvation. Not through a televangelist. Me and several of my friends abused drugs, alcohol, and other people around us before we accepted Jesus Christ, and now we're completely changed. And it wasn't something that was a gradual process, it was immediate. It's real. And it's completely free. Not based on works. And it's not complicated. I don't know of another faith like that. I challenge you nay-sayers to read the Holy Bible and find out for yourselves. You don't have to go to a church to find God's salvation. And yes, true salvation is very lovely.
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Reply #168 posted 06/02/04 7:55pm

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THIS IS THE WAY I SEE IT I LIKE THE MUSIC PRINCE PUTS OUT MOST OF IT .BUT IF HE IS INTO ALL OF THIS ..THATS HIM AND HIS SOUL AND HIS BELIEFS I DON'T CARE WHAT PRINCE BELIEVES IN WE DON'T KNOW THE MAN JUST THE MUSIC .I DO'NT EVEN CARE TO BE ALL DEEP INTO HIS LIFE .IT PROBALLY WOULD SPOIL IT FOR ME ..IF YOU ASK ME THE WAY WE ARE WHORSHIPPING PRINCE ON THIS SITE IS KINDA REDICULOUS IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT I MEAN PEOPLE COULD SAY THAT WE ARE IDOL PRINCE WORSHIPPERS..AND THATS WRONG I MEAN WE GIVE THIS A LOT OF OUR TIME .WHEN MOST OF US ON HERE PROBALLY DON'T GIVE THE LORD TWO SECONDS OF YOUR DAY JUST BY SAYING THANK YOU LORD FOR WAKEING ME UP THIS MORNING I MEAN WE ALL COULD BE ON OUR WAYS TO HELL JUST DOING THAT .AND WE DON'T THINK ANYTHING IS WRONG WITH IT..BECAUSE WE ARE NOT THINKING.....I'LL TELL YOU THIS IF I KNEW THAT PRINCE WAS THIS KIND OF PERSON I WOULD BURN EVERY CD I OWNED AND PICTURES AND ASK THE LORD FOR FORGIVENESS ..I WILL NOT GO TO HELL FOR ANYBODY.....
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Reply #169 posted 06/02/04 8:18pm

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This may be the greatest thread in the history of the new ORG.
lol

Where is NwPwrSoul when you need him?
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Reply #170 posted 06/02/04 8:52pm

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EvilWhiteMale said:

Zelaira said:

Any Fan would Know with The LOVESEXY album and How Prince Always Signed Autographs LOVE GOD and how he Made Graffiti Bridge that PRINCe WAS VERY SPIRITUAL and Into RELIGION and NOT SATAN! ENOUGH SAID. Get OVEr this cause it's NOT TRUE! PRINCe is INTO GOD and CHRIST NOT THE DEVIL!



Actually, Prince is quite fond of Satanism and will probably convert once he gets done with being a JW.


I think you're right and I hope it's soon.

He was way much cooler when he played around with it.

It was interesting.
We can F*#% until the dawn....
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Reply #171 posted 06/02/04 8:59pm

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EvilWhiteMale said:

rando310 said:



Um..Satanism and Devil Worship are two totally different things...look up the Church of Satan for info


http://www.churchofsatan.com

The Nine Satanic Statements

from The Satanic Bible, ©1969

by Anton Szandor LaVey

1. Satan represents indulgence instead of abstinence!

2. Satan represents vital existence instead of spiritual pipe dreams!

3. Satan represents undefiled wisdom instead of hypocritical self-deceit!

4. Satan represents kindness to those who deserve it instead of love wasted on ingrates!

5. Satan represents vengeance instead of turning the other cheek!

6. Satan represents responsibility to the responsible instead of concern for psychic vampires!

7. Satan represents man as just another animal, sometimes better, more often worse than those that walk on all-fours, who, because of his “divine spiritual and intellectual development,” has become the most vicious animal of all!

8. Satan represents all of the so-called sins, as they all lead to physical, mental, or emotional gratification!

9. Satan has been the best friend the Church has ever had, as He has kept it in business all these years!



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You know...most of that information above makes sense, especially #7.
We can F*#% until the dawn....
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