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PrintableSassyBritches said: EvilWhiteMale said: I agree. This kind of music just doesn't appeal to the younger crowds. He still has a market with the older folks, but no one's really that excited about his new material. I think overall, people miss the wild side of Prince, the side that was fun, exciting, and unpredictable. There's nothing in his new shit that has these qualities. He really needs to do a 360 and come out with something amazing if he wants to get a fresh buzz going on.
well, i'm 27. my boyfriend is 24. i work with 21 year olds. all of the above dig prince and his new record. judging from the teens at the shows i've been to so far, i'd say his appeal is generally across the board. people just need to HEAR about him again. this seems even more obvious since his shows are selling out after being on tv and awards shows. hmmm, coincidence? the comment about no one being excited about the new material? funny, a lot of magazine reviews seem to be excited about it. viacom seems to be excited about it. sony seems to be excited by it. most of the people on these boards seem to be excited by it. the 17,000 people at each sold out arena seem to be excited about it. all of the consumers that are making this a top 5 on the charts seem to be very excited about it. what more do you need? Reviews mean nothing. The concerts are selling out because people wanna hear the old stuff. Outside of the Org, I haven't met one person who likes Musicology or even know what it is. "You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." "
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EvilWhiteMale said: Reviews mean nothing. The concerts are selling out because people wanna hear the old stuff. Outside of the Org, I haven't met one person who likes Musicology or even know what it is.
Come on, stop frontin'... Prince has officially made a commercial comeback. How long it lasts? Well, only time will tell. But please stop pretending. You spend waaaay too much time here to act like you know anything outside of the Org. | |
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psykosoul said: Come on, stop frontin'... Prince has officially made a commercial comeback. How long it lasts? Well, only time will tell. But please stop pretending. You spend waaaay too much time here to act like you know anything outside of the Org.
You spend waaaay too much time following me around. "You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." "
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EvilWhiteMale said: psykosoul said: Come on, stop frontin'... Prince has officially made a commercial comeback. How long it lasts? Well, only time will tell. But please stop pretending. You spend waaaay too much time here to act like you know anything outside of the Org.
You spend waaaay too much time following me around. just crazy this EWM dude is just crazy | |
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lmas said: EvilWhiteMale said: You spend waaaay too much time following me around. just crazy this EWM dude is just crazy Sure, always my fault.  "You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." "
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EvilWhiteMale said: psykosoul said: Come on, stop frontin'... Prince has officially made a commercial comeback. How long it lasts? Well, only time will tell. But please stop pretending. You spend waaaay too much time here to act like you know anything outside of the Org.
You spend waaaay too much time following me around. Don't be scurred. I'm just trying to give you an opportunity to express yourself without coming across like a jackass. You're routine isn't even funny anymore. Just put that shit on hiatus for a while. | |
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psykosoul said: Don't be scurred. I'm just trying to give you an opportunity to express yourself without coming across like a jackass. You're routine isn't even funny anymore. Just put that shit on hiatus for a while.
Put your attention for me on hiatus. "You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." "
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EvilWhiteMale said: psykosoul said: Don't be scurred. I'm just trying to give you an opportunity to express yourself without coming across like a jackass. You're routine isn't even funny anymore. Just put that shit on hiatus for a while.
Put your attention for me on hiatus. It would be a hell of a lot easier if you weren't spurting ignorance on every thread I find of interest. Haven't you noticed that the band of EvilWhiteMale groupies haven't been coming to your defense as of late? Doesn't that tell you something? | |
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Who is "we"??  I think P is just years ahead of everybody - I'm finally starting to see what he meant about being "free". He's doing shit on his own terms, ducking in & out of the industry when he feels like it (so he says, I hope it's true). Nothing wrong w/ that... He's happy, so am I. Long as I get the tunes!
. [This message was edited Mon Apr 26 21:15:42 2004 by Crappallonia]  ...come on Alfred... pack ya shit...  | |
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EvilWhiteMale said: SassyBritches said: well, i'm 27. my boyfriend is 24. i work with 21 year olds. all of the above dig prince and his new record. judging from the teens at the shows i've been to so far, i'd say his appeal is generally across the board. people just need to HEAR about him again. this seems even more obvious since his shows are selling out after being on tv and awards shows. hmmm, coincidence? the comment about no one being excited about the new material? funny, a lot of magazine reviews seem to be excited about it. viacom seems to be excited about it. sony seems to be excited by it. most of the people on these boards seem to be excited by it. the 17,000 people at each sold out arena seem to be excited about it. all of the consumers that are making this a top 5 on the charts seem to be very excited about it. what more do you need? Reviews mean nothing. The concerts are selling out because people wanna hear the old stuff. Outside of the Org, I haven't met one person who likes Musicology or even know what it is. well, good reviews mean that SOMEONE was excited about the new cd. as for the tour selling out because people wanna hear the old stuff...hmmm, ever hear of a tour called 'jam of the year'? it was a hits tour that went through arenas. most shows that i know of did NOT sell out. now, there was much less press covering it so surely that had something to do with it. the bottom line is, as the charts and reviews and sell out dates will show, people are excited about prince these days. if it was only the org that cared, the record would enter the chart around 100 like the others did. clearly, some people are excited. now, you can twist that around however you want to if it makes you feel clever. it makes no headline to me whether you like the cd (or prince for that matter) or not. these statements, though, just make you look silly because they aren't based on anything realistic. the only real thing they are based on is your opinion. [This message was edited Mon Apr 26 21:22:24 2004 by SassyBritches] | |
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psykosoul said: It would be a hell of a lot easier if you weren't spurting ignorance on every thread I find of interest. Haven't you noticed that the band of EvilWhiteMale groupies haven't been coming to your defense as of late? Doesn't that tell you something? Is it difficult to ignore me? "You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." "
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EvilWhiteMale said: psykosoul said: It would be a hell of a lot easier if you weren't spurting ignorance on every thread I find of interest. Haven't you noticed that the band of EvilWhiteMale groupies haven't been coming to your defense as of late? Doesn't that tell you something? Is it difficult to ignore me? It is when you're showing your ass in every thread. Can't wait for your reply to SassyBritches. Let's see if you can reply without contradicting yourself. [This message was edited Mon Apr 26 22:05:39 2004 by psykosoul] | |
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SassyBritches said: well, good reviews mean that SOMEONE was excited about the new cd. as for the tour selling out because people wanna hear the old stuff...hmmm, ever hear of a tour called 'jam of the year'? it was a hits tour that went through arenas. most shows that i know of did NOT sell out. now, there was much less press covering it so surely that had something to do with it. the bottom line is, as the charts and reviews and sell out dates will show, people are excited about prince these days. if it was only the org that cared, the record would enter the chart around 100 like the others did. clearly, some people are excited. now, you can twist that around however you want to if it makes you feel clever. it makes no headline to me whether you like the cd (or prince for that matter) or not. these statements, though, just make you look silly because they aren't based on anything realistic. the only real thing they are based on is your opinion.
The shows are selling out because people wanna hear the hits. I bet you the vast majority of them have never even heard of Musicology. "You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." "
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psykosoul said: It is when you're showing your ass in every thread. Can't wait for your reply to SassyBritches. Let's see if you can reply without contradicting yourself. You're stalking capabilities are excellent by the way. Cudos to you. P.S. I've grown tired of you. You're on ignore from now on. . [This message was edited Mon Apr 26 22:17:30 2004 by EvilWhiteMale] "You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." "
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EvilWhiteMale said: psykosoul said: It is when you're showing your ass in every thread. Can't wait for your reply to SassyBritches. Let's see if you can reply without contradicting yourself. You're stalking capabilities are excellent by the way. Cudos to you. Whatever man... You are such a freakin' computer geek. When you can't back your bullshit up with substance, you turn everything around into a half-witted insult. You say half of this ignorant shit just for the attention. Then when you get it and have to account for what you say then its... Ooooh, why are you stalking me?!?!?! | |
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psykosoul said: EvilWhiteMale said: You're stalking capabilities are excellent by the way. Cudos to you. Whatever man... You are such a freakin' computer geek. When you can't back your bullshit up with substance, you turn everything around into a half-witted insult. You say half of this ignorant shit just for the attention. Then when you get it and have to account for what you say then its... Ooooh, why are you stalking me?!?!?!   | |
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17ways69days said: Prince is doing fine this year. His concerts are selling out all over the country and he will
probably end up banking 20 million dollars. However, the days of the number one Prince record are over. Of course, while it’s possible that sometime in the next twenty or so years the man will release a record that will go number 1, he’s not going to hold that spot for too long. The sad truth is that Prince is like the Rolling Stones – people will pay to see him in concert, people respect him, people will continually show props, but most people are not going to pay attention to the new material and buy the record. Regardless of how Prince changes his image and/or music, he will not be able to break free from Purple Rain and the 80’s. The only way Prince could retain his former popular glory would be if young people start to listen to him. And that aint going to happen because he has too many older fans. Most young people (14-21) don’t want to listen to music their parents are jamming with. I hear what your saying but thats just the way it is with musicians who have been around along time.Bowie,Madonna,Jackson are no different.Although still making good music for the most part,how could Madonna recapture her eighties popularity.Or Bowie with Ziggy and Jackson's Billie Jean days.If Hendrix,Morrison or Redding were still with us I'm positive they would be in the same sort of situation. | |
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who is "we?"
you are, in fact, hoping that prince will perfectly duplicate a moment in time... from an era that no longer exists??? think of the factors that had to come together to produce the first major wave of popularity. how could it possibly happen again, in exactly the same way? a bizarre thought, and a rather immature one, at that. | |
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EvilWhiteMale said: I agree. This kind of music just doesn't appeal to the younger crowds. He still has a market with the older folks, but no one's really that excited about his new material. I think overall, people miss the wild side of Prince, the side that was fun, exciting, and unpredictable. There's nothing in his new shit that has these qualities. He really needs to do a 360 and come out with something amazing if he wants to get a fresh buzz going on. [This message was edited Tue Apr 27 3:37:01 2004 by alexnvrmnd] | |
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EvilWhiteMale said: psykosoul said: It is when you're showing your ass in every thread. Can't wait for your reply to SassyBritches. Let's see if you can reply without contradicting yourself. You're stalking capabilities are excellent by the way. Cudos to you. P.S. I've grown tired of you. You're on ignore from now on. . [This message was edited Mon Apr 26 22:17:30 2004 by EvilWhiteMale] Come on now... A real provocateur doesn't complain about stalking. I'm sure Marilyn Manson would slap you just for rejecting perfectly good attention. | |
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J0eyC0c0 said: Let me add a comment to this. The fact that his concerts are selling out doesn't necessarily mean he's making a lot of money.
Mark my words...this tour will be the #1 tour of 2004 by the time it's all said and done. Prince is making a ton of money this year: sold-out concerts, $35-$50 T-shirts, record sales, back catalog sales. I woul;dn't be surprised if he rakes in $50-$75 million this year!  | |
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iM 16 AND I WANT TO KISTEN TO HIS JAM *~* iF YoU kNoW HoW To roCk sAy YeAh!
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At the Raleigh show, there was a girl on stage dancing to Kiss, I'm sure she was younger than 22. She didn't even know the words to Kiss, yet she paid $75 to see Prince. When I saw her tell him, "I don't know the words"- I thought to myself - who doesnt know the words to Kiss by now- but then I said, she's part of the "new" audience.
As for appealing to Kids, Prince youthfulness will attract a teen audience- especially with a song like Man in Ur Life; Looks like he will get play on Vh1, MTV- the x factor may be Radio- who has dissed him so far on Musicology. I have yet to hear Musicology or any other song from the CD played on any Pop or R/B station in the Durham/Raleigh, NC area. The road you choose to walk in this life, is a road that leads to the next..... | |
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MightBQueen said: who is "we?"
you are, in fact, hoping that prince will perfectly duplicate a moment in time... from an era that no longer exists??? think of the factors that had to come together to produce the first major wave of popularity. how could it possibly happen again, in exactly the same way? a bizarre thought, and a rather immature one, at that. What a pain in the ass response. I always love it when people read shit into the the things you write and then, assuming that you are writing what they just imagined and attributed to you, they go on to criticize something you just said. Am so off base for assuming that most of us want Prince to hold down the number one spot for a few weeks? Of course the Purple Rain days over and so too, if you agree with the initial post, are the days when Prince will hold down the top spot for more than one week if at all. ego tripping out | |
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Aerogram said: Come on now... A real provocateur doesn't complain about stalking. I'm sure Marilyn Manson would slap you just for rejecting perfectly good attention.[/quote] No. I'm just got gonna entertain his obession with me anymore. It's people like him who start shit and ruin threads. The computer seems to give him balls like it does a lot of people around here. People who hide in the corner in real life suddenly are able to act tough cuz they're thousands of miles away from the person they're starting shit with. People say they're tired of me posting the same negative shit all the time, well what does that make them when they keep responding negatively to me all the time, and I'm not even the topic of the thread? It's funny, but so fuckin stupid. "You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." "
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17ways69days said: MightBQueen said: who is "we?"
you are, in fact, hoping that prince will perfectly duplicate a moment in time... from an era that no longer exists??? think of the factors that had to come together to produce the first major wave of popularity. how could it possibly happen again, in exactly the same way? a bizarre thought, and a rather immature one, at that. What a pain in the ass response. I always love it when people read shit into the the things you write and then, assuming that you are writing what they just imagined and attributed to you, they go on to criticize something you just said. Am so off base for assuming that most of us want Prince to hold down the number one spot for a few weeks? Of course the Purple Rain days over and so too, if you agree with the initial post, are the days when Prince will hold down the top spot for more than one week if at all. to prove what to whom? just enjoy what you enjoy, be glad Prince is happy & healthy, and still making music... if lots of people like what he's doing, great. if they don't... why would this bother you so much? a lot of fine things in this world go unappreciated. | |
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MightBQueen said: just enjoy what you enjoy, be glad Prince is happy & healthy, and still making music...
The Queen hits the nail on the head!! Count your blessings, enjoy life, celebrate love and art! Prince is part of all these things for me.  | |
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EvilWhiteMale said: No. I'm just got gonna entertain his obession with me anymore. It's people like him who start shit and ruin threads. The computer seems to give him balls like it does a lot of people around here. People who hide in the corner in real life suddenly are able to act tough cuz they're thousands of miles away from the person they're starting shit with. People say they're tired of me posting the same negative shit all the time, well what does that make them when they keep responding negatively to me all the time, and I'm not even the topic of the thread? It's funny, but so fuckin stupid.
Quit acting like you're on the fucking playground. It's like you're the little weird kid who wears a cape to school and you take it personal because I ask you why wear it. None of this is about having the balls to talk shit. It's about having the balls to back-up all of the shit you talk with logical theories. It's people like you who start shit for attention. Like I said, when I do question your logic about something relevant to a thread, you run off "Quit stalkin' me... quit stalking me..." Don't get mad because I'll call your bluff. If I accept you for being the negative attention seeker, then expect me expose you for the fraudulent Prince worshipper you really are. | |
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psykosoul said: EvilWhiteMale said: No. I'm just got gonna entertain his obession with me anymore. It's people like him who start shit and ruin threads. The computer seems to give him balls like it does a lot of people around here. People who hide in the corner in real life suddenly are able to act tough cuz they're thousands of miles away from the person they're starting shit with. People say they're tired of me posting the same negative shit all the time, well what does that make them when they keep responding negatively to me all the time, and I'm not even the topic of the thread? It's funny, but so fuckin stupid.
Quit acting like you're on the fucking playground. It's like you're the little weird kid who wears a cape to school and you take it personal because I ask you why wear it. None of this is about having the balls to talk shit. It's about having the balls to back-up all of the shit you talk with logical theories. It's people like you who start shit for attention. Like I said, when I do question your logic about something relevant to a thread, you run off "Quit stalkin' me... quit stalking me..." Don't get mad because I'll call your bluff. If I accept you for being the negative attention seeker, then expect me expose you for the fraudulent Prince worshipper you really are. Damn dudes - ya'll need to take a break. Let's get back to the thread and if you're going to talk shit please oh please bring that shit my way. I started this mfker. Anyway, I hope Musicology stays constant, that the concert giveaways, if they are counted with store sales, keep the record on the chart. And sure I’m glad P. is healthy and happy and making decent music but I also think P.’s music could benefit from this influx of popularity. I’m not a fan of NEWS, TRC, or Xpectation and P’s more experimental records (Sign, 1999, Black Album, ATWIAD – Note TRC and NEWS are not on my list, these records while a departure for P. are not experimental) all follow, with the exception of 1999, records that sold million +. The last thing I want is a return to the 80’s but I expect more than the dismal TRC, the corny TGE, and, while it’s an improvement, the sterile Musicology. ego tripping out | |
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whats the topic of this thread again?
some people are just such loosers, i hate slipknot, you dont see me on thier fuckin message board baggin their newest collage of noise... let alone slappin up a big banner claimin myself a hater... the reason were all here is cause we like prince now, today... not just back in the day... lets face it, its pretty gay for any of us to be going to message boards of artists anyway... but just imagine how much of a looser you'd have to be to spend your time going to a board of someone you hate... just to make sure you get your sinical biased opinon heard... if there is nothing here for you anymore.. all the new albums suck as you say... then what exactly keeps you coming back? its like some retarted reflex | |
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