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Reply #30 posted 03/30/04 8:57pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

Being current is not the problem, we want him to progress, to do original, new sounding stuff. What we want though is good stuff. He used rap slang on Days Of Wild, and that song is a monster, and is original and innovating.

Prince should listen to Andre3000 and take notes.



After Andre writes about 5000 killer songs, mounts 20 tours, and learns to actually sing beyond affectations in Prince-derivative "novelty songs" that will have a shelf life of a year, then Prince and he can begin talking.

Puhleeze.

Prince created the blueprint for the slow-funk jam, the cross-over R&B/rock/pop album, the silly seque, and everything else Outkast has been stealing from to build a career. At least act like ya know...
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Reply #31 posted 03/30/04 9:53pm

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bkw said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

This song kicks major ass. If you gave Kirky J a mllenium he'd never be able to program a song as funky as this.

Whips & Chips current vernacular? lol

I love the timing of his phrases and the offkey way he sings, almost as if he originally laid out the the music in a different key. It works tho. If we're gonna talk regression, this sounds to me like what he wanted to do with "Undisputed" from Rave but this time it really worked nod

100% absolutely spot on! thumbs up!

Could not have said it better myself. biggrin


Anpther time he hit this nail on the head is when he says, "put that spoon down honey, c'mon let mamma feed U."

too smooth... cloud9
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Reply #32 posted 03/30/04 10:07pm

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Just 2 fonkee 4 there own good!...

"Illusion, Coma, Pimp & Circumstance"
"1+1+1=3"
"Silicon"
"Come On"
"Style"
"Days Of Wild"
"Pope"
"The Max"
"Erotic City"
"Irresistable Bitch"

New CD's got me in the mood... cool
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Reply #33 posted 03/30/04 10:10pm

thebiscuit

WITHOUT A DOUBT THE BEST TRACK ON THE ALBUM. Which I think is a little unfocussed imho.
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Reply #34 posted 03/31/04 1:36pm

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Reply #35 posted 03/31/04 3:00pm

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:

i like the cut mostly for the lyrix (kinna humorous in parts), 'cept for the attempts of soundin, i dunno, "hip"...chips n'whips? th' fuck, i'm 23 years old and i don't even use that slang! it's just...awkward. like, "you don't need to resort to current vernacular, brotha. you're cool just the way you are."


Chips and whips = money and bdsm toys. I say his usage was warranted for the point he was making, and not about "trying" to be hip. Besides, except for that whole Tony M. thing that I'd rather not discuss wink, Prince has never had to "try and be hip". It does come naturally for some people. cool
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Reply #36 posted 03/31/04 4:03pm

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SexyBeautifulOne said:

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

i like the cut mostly for the lyrix (kinna humorous in parts), 'cept for the attempts of soundin, i dunno, "hip"...chips n'whips? th' fuck, i'm 23 years old and i don't even use that slang! it's just...awkward. like, "you don't need to resort to current vernacular, brotha. you're cool just the way you are."


Chips and whips = money and bdsm toys. I say his usage was warranted for the point he was making, and not about "trying" to be hip. Besides, except for that whole Tony M. thing that I'd rather not discuss wink, Prince has never had to "try and be hip". It does come naturally for some people. cool


actually I think "whips" is slang for cars....BDSM toys r expensive and all, but a couple hundred thousand dollars worth, that's a little overkill
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Reply #37 posted 03/31/04 4:09pm

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CrystalVault said:

The title yet was promissing, but the song itself made my day. I'm gonna sweat this one out!

worship


I have to agree, but is there enough bass in the song? The drums need to be louder so the song can bump in my car, which I've yet to do..so I can't really complain, can I? nod
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Reply #38 posted 03/31/04 4:13pm

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SexyBeautifulOne said:

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

i like the cut mostly for the lyrix (kinna humorous in parts), 'cept for the attempts of soundin, i dunno, "hip"...chips n'whips? th' fuck, i'm 23 years old and i don't even use that slang! it's just...awkward. like, "you don't need to resort to current vernacular, brotha. you're cool just the way you are."


Chips and whips = money and bdsm toys. I say his usage was warranted for the point he was making, and not about "trying" to be hip. Besides, except for that whole Tony M. thing that I'd rather not discuss wink, Prince has never had to "try and be hip". It does come naturally for some people. cool

i know what the terms mean, what i meant is that i don't use 'em at all. don't care for 'em. you totally misconstrued "whips", tho'. evillol
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Reply #39 posted 03/31/04 4:19pm

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Amazing that what some see as the best track on the album is among the worst to others. I think ICPC is god awful as is CG and LOTP. If not for those tracks the album would have a much better flow. To each his own.
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Reply #40 posted 03/31/04 4:22pm

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BobGeorge999 said:

SexyBeautifulOne said:



Chips and whips = money and bdsm toys. I say his usage was warranted for the point he was making, and not about "trying" to be hip. Besides, except for that whole Tony M. thing that I'd rather not discuss wink, Prince has never had to "try and be hip". It does come naturally for some people. cool


actually I think "whips" is slang for cars....BDSM toys r expensive and all, but a couple hundred thousand dollars worth, that's a little overkill



Thank you! a 'whip' in this context is a car....I thought some folks might take it literally....but I think chips and whips = money and cars.....
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Reply #41 posted 03/31/04 4:49pm

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soulflower said:

BobGeorge999 said:



actually I think "whips" is slang for cars....BDSM toys r expensive and all, but a couple hundred thousand dollars worth, that's a little overkill



Thank you! a 'whip' in this context is a car....I thought some folks might take it literally....but I think chips and whips = money and cars.....


U're completle correct. I'm gonna repeat myself here. My favorite line in that song is : Put that spoon down honey, c'mon let mamma feed U"....too smooth cloud9
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Reply #42 posted 03/31/04 4:50pm

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soulflower said:

BobGeorge999 said:



actually I think "whips" is slang for cars....BDSM toys r expensive and all, but a couple hundred thousand dollars worth, that's a little overkill



Thank you! a 'whip' in this context is a car....I thought some folks might take it literally....but I think chips and whips = money and cars.....


U're completle correct. I'm gonna repeat myself here. My favorite line in that song is : "I got all of what U need....Put that spoon down honey, c'mon let mamma feed U"
....too smooth cloud9
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Reply #43 posted 04/01/04 2:00am

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bkw said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

This song kicks major ass. If you gave Kirky J a mllenium he'd never be able to program a song as funky as this.

Whips & Chips current vernacular? lol

I love the timing of his phrases and the offkey way he sings, almost as if he originally laid out the the music in a different key. It works tho. If we're gonna talk regression, this sounds to me like what he wanted to do with "Undisputed" from Rave but this time it really worked nod

100% absolutely spot on! thumbs up!

Could not have said it better myself. biggrin



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Reply #44 posted 04/01/04 2:02am

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Fuckin' sweet song headbang
heart prince I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it prince heart
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Reply #45 posted 04/01/04 6:33am

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Well, add another vote for the "love it" category. Best song on the album, hands down. It has that funky, just plain weird, Prince feel. To the folks comparing it to NPS, well, I think this was the sound he was trying for on that disc, but just couldn't seem to get down. To me, the only song on the disc that sounds like that era is "Life O The Party", but even that one is bolstered by a thumpin drum line, which NPS was sorely lacking. I've said for ages that that album would have been sooo much better had it just had better drums. (Imagine if "eye Like Funky Music" had a drum sound like LOTP does!) I digress.

This song just kicks all kinds of booty! The sparse drum sound, coupled with the crazy, whacked-out vocals make for an incredibly funky sound. Prince downplays the bass sound, which gives this a sound completely unlike anything on the radio today (which is what P did back in the day with "When Doves Cry", but here he is using this technique to a completely different effect). Lyrically, this song reminds me of the sheer bizzareness (I'm sure this isn't a word, but y'all understand) of tunes from SOTT/Black Album/Lovesexy. "Shockadelica", "Rock Hard In A Funky Place" and other "Camille" tracks are very much in this same vein. What makes it great is that P is building on the sound of those songs, but doing something new with it. He isn't just doing the same stuff he did back then.

This song alone is worth the whole album!!!
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Reply #46 posted 04/01/04 7:16am

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batting eyes Ok, so maybe I'm the only one that spends that kind of money on my "toys". whip The point still is Prince doesn't have to "try" and be hip, cool, funky, fine or anything else. He was born that way.
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Reply #47 posted 04/01/04 5:22pm

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Reply #48 posted 04/01/04 7:20pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

Prince should listen to Andre3000 and take notes.

you mean that the other way around, dear...rolleyes
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Reply #49 posted 04/01/04 8:09pm

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funkadelic71 said:

You are so fuckin right!! it is the tight but you can't play it on your little cd player or try and put it on your cd player with the 2 speakers that song is the BOMB!! 4 those who have not heard it try and find it,i am liking musicology 2, it's hard FUNK sound.. call my name can't get any better i love that shit 4 the people who 4 some reason do not like this album i just don't understand why unless u are looking 4 Purple Rain type music it's time 2 catch up with the rest of the friends MUSICOLGY is and will be a great album.



CO-SIGN nod
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Reply #50 posted 04/01/04 8:49pm

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jpav said:

2freaky4church1 said:

Being current is not the problem, we want him to progress, to do original, new sounding stuff. What we want though is good stuff. He used rap slang on Days Of Wild, and that song is a monster, and is original and innovating.

Prince should listen to Andre3000 and take notes.



After Andre writes about 5000 killer songs, mounts 20 tours, and learns to actually sing beyond affectations in Prince-derivative "novelty songs" that will have a shelf life of a year, then Prince and he can begin talking.

Puhleeze.

Prince created the blueprint for the slow-funk jam, the cross-over R&B/rock/pop album, the silly seque, and everything else Outkast has been stealing from to build a career. At least act like ya know...



nuff said
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Reply #51 posted 04/01/04 8:55pm

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SexyBeautifulOne said:

batting eyes Ok, so maybe I'm the only one that spends that kind of money on my "toys". whip The point still is Prince doesn't have to "try" and be hip, cool, funky, fine or anything else. He was born that way.



do U seriously spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on BDSM toys?...like $100,000-$999,999
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Reply #52 posted 04/01/04 9:17pm

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JediMaster said:

Well, add another vote for the "love it" category. Best song on the album, hands down. It has that funky, just plain weird, Prince feel. To the folks comparing it to NPS, well, I think this was the sound he was trying for on that disc, but just couldn't seem to get down. To me, the only song on the disc that sounds like that era is "Life O The Party", but even that one is bolstered by a thumpin drum line, which NPS was sorely lacking. I've said for ages that that album would have been sooo much better had it just had better drums. (Imagine if "eye Like Funky Music" had a drum sound like LOTP does!) I digress.

This song just kicks all kinds of booty! The sparse drum sound, coupled with the crazy, whacked-out vocals make for an incredibly funky sound. Prince downplays the bass sound, which gives this a sound completely unlike anything on the radio today (which is what P did back in the day with "When Doves Cry", but here he is using this technique to a completely different effect). Lyrically, this song reminds me of the sheer bizzareness (I'm sure this isn't a word, but y'all understand) of tunes from SOTT/Black Album/Lovesexy. "Shockadelica", "Rock Hard In A Funky Place" and other "Camille" tracks are very much in this same vein. What makes it great is that P is building on the sound of those songs, but doing something new with it. He isn't just doing the same stuff he did back then.

This song alone is worth the whole album!!!

thumbs up!
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Reply #53 posted 04/02/04 3:31am

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The track does kick my ass. I still haven't followed what he's saying...need to listen...


No u don't...keep groovin and the lyrics will come. I heard about this track and thought, oh hear he goes again tryin to be cute...there was a time that, like all of us, he was stuck in that inbetween stage of growing and staying a cad.

As long as the track does it...the lyrics will always come. Speaking of that: anybody got the lyrics?
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Reply #54 posted 04/02/04 3:38am

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:

points to my signature....


U kno I have just now figured out you're a gal...never paid attention to the sig...cuz u kno how folks appropriate stuff.

Your sig is a classic thang you catch coming out of your senile Grandaddy's mouf. (Mine anyway...but I remember referring to Prince as FINE).

Like the sig...where'd you get it? WeHo?
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Reply #55 posted 04/02/04 4:21am

Teacher

CrystalVault said:

The title yet was promissing, but the song itself made my day. I'm gonna sweat this one out!

worship


nod dancing jig booty!
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Reply #56 posted 04/02/04 4:22am

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ok i listened to the album for the 23nd time last night. definitely grows on me each time. first time i listened 'what do you want.. .' stuck in my head. this time it's 'illusions, coma.. ."

this song is FUNKY. deeeply, deeply funky. '


i have a feeling this album will become one of my very favorites, like COME
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Reply #57 posted 04/02/04 4:32am

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XxAxX said:

ok i listened to the album for the 23nd time last night. definitely grows on me each time. first time i listened 'what do you want.. .' stuck in my head. this time it's 'illusions, coma.. ."

this song is FUNKY. deeeply, deeply funky. '


i have a feeling this album will become one of my very favorites, like COME


nod woot! It's excellent!!
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Reply #58 posted 04/02/04 6:30am

japartington

Like the story line. Sounds like a song about Christopher Tracy from Under The Cherry Moon.

Funkay!
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Reply #59 posted 04/02/04 2:02pm

laylow03

I'm sorry. I like the chorus and the beat. It's funkay, but I HATE the verses! STUPID lyrics and I hate the way he stops and starts. JMHO mad
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