Se7en said:

Of course Prince can bite D'Angelo. That can easily work both ways. However, that is not the case here. This is not a D'Angelo rip off. Certainly not inspired by 'Untitled' (which is a great song I believe). Raphael Saadiq and D'Angelo have said that the song was a tribute to Prince. There is a difference.

Cats kill me with the term 'biting'. So what if a D'Angelo song sounds like Prince or a Prince song that resemble a JB cut. Unless someone is going around saying that they have never been inspired by a particular artist, who cares? Don't take it so seriously.

Well, the track's growing on me. It don't sound killer to me at the moment, but i'll give it time. But that's not to say that i'm a "hater" or that i'm living in the past. I'll be the first to admit that, in general - if you want to clump decades together, i prefer the 80s to the 90s.

But damn, i love TRC. Brilliant album. I don't give a poo about the decades really, i just want to hear good music, whether it be Irresistible Bitch or The Everlasting Now.

I don't get why if you're not particularly taken by a track you're suddenly a hater, shouldn't call yourself a fan (and damn sure not a fam), or are living in the past. That's just faecal, it's wrong, it's a pile of poo.

This ain't directed at anyone, before i get a custard pie (or worse) in the face. I just get tired of the constant bracketing of people into damn haters or whatever.

TheFrog said:

Never said you were a hater but I noticed that many people "old Prince" and constantly rejects the new sound (which sounds like the old one actually!!)... I found that in some people. But that said: to each his own!!!!
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klaatu said:

Sorry if it appeared directed at you - it wasn't, it really was a general comment. To each his own absolutely. Peace, klaatu.

TheFrog said:

peace to you too!! funny thing: the welcome message of the org says "klaatu, bathe with me...": I actually need a cool shower right now!!!

Se7en said:

Don't 4get SextMF. That's James to tha 2nd power.

I almost got irritated w/ this thread until I saw the author

klaatu said:

Nope.

Don't want that sound at all. I would like to see Prince do something as individual and new to him as he did then, but not sound like then.

U CAN TRUST ME > IF U LIKED PARADE/LOVESEXY U WILL LIKE MUSICOLOGY!!

love2thenines2003 said:

Hi prince

Oh wait, you're not prince, are you?

i liked parade and lovesexy.

love2thenines2003 said:

I'm still waiting for the day you realize you should SHUT UP.

Hold on - did you get that? SHUT UP. Yes, SHUT UP. Ah, there you go.

Now go find a mirror and pretend you're Prince all day long, just remember to SHUT UP.

Call My Name is a great song. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK PRINCE.

Romance1600 said:

Since I **LOVE** all of those songs, maybe that's why I like this one so much. I haven't been impressed w/ anything Prince has put out post-ONA Studio, but "Call My Name" has given me hope and renewed my excitement!

Xpertlover said:

.....i like your style .....!!

Musicology Album>Musicology>Reflection>lifeOthe party>Mr Man>Call My name.....
Next 2 come soon!!

Musicology will B release by WB !!


Shut up already Damn.....

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

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First, of all neo-soul is nothing but pre-rapping RnB. Prince has included at least one RnB ballad on just about every CD he put out. He even put one on each Time CD. I think Prince was inspired by EWF, Curtis Mayfield, Sly Stone, James Brown,
Joni Mitchell, and Santana.

I don't think Acknowlege me sounds like Babyface or LA. I think a lot of the stuff they did with the Deele sounds like Prince.
I guess if Prince put cornrows in his hair that move would be inspired by D'Angelo too. Well guess what he would not be because D'Angelo did'nt invent that hairstyle. According to your logic any time Prince does a ballad he is ripping off Neo-soul people when Neo-people are freely ripping Prince or anything else that came out of the 70's.

Get a grip on reality.

laurarichardson said:

Laura, I usually agree with you 75% of the time. But I believe The Rainbow Children was directly influenced by 2 albums of 2000: D'Angelo's Voodoo and to a lesser extent Erykah Badu's Mama's Gun. The liner notes of Voodoo called Prince out so hard musically that I think once he got past his hurt feelings [Undisputed (moneyapolis mix)] he actually considered what those liner notes had to say. The Rainbow Children is probably Prince's most soulful album ever since For You.

The Ballad of Dorothy Parker is one of major favorites of D'Angelo and ?uestlove. And in the year 2001 Prince made a decision to make it a part of a major performance on The Tonight Show and part of the setlist that year. This was a song he hadn't touched in 13 years but he decided to resurrect it for some seemingly unexplainable reason. Looking back on it, it was only a clue to show the musical direction he was heading toward.

As I see it, Prince's listening habits always influence his subsequent work. Just as the Stones, U2 and Miles, for example.

I can't get inside Prince's head, but I noticed a lot of the things psykosoul noticed after TRC. That being said, I heard a snippet of "Call My Name" on Doug Banks and it sounds derivative of . . . well . . .Prince.

Anyone who knows Prince music knows that he's been playing soul music for decades (whether on his released recordings, live or on unreleased tracks). D'Angelo wouldn't sound the way he does (or did) without Prince (and no, that doesn't mean he's a Prince wannabe or clone, it just means his sound is Prince-influenced, by his own admission).

Bottom line: Prince may be interested in trying new sounds, and he follows more than he leads these days, but his sound is always distinguishable, and many times he is derivative of himself. Just like . . . well . . . [D'Angelo.

namepeace said:

Definitely

laurarichardson said:[quote]

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

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"First, of all neo-soul is nothing but pre-rapping RnB. Prince has included at least one RnB ballad on just about every CD he put out. He even put one on each Time CD. I think Prince was inspired by EWF, Curtis Mayfield, Sly Stone, James Brown,
Joni Mitchell, and Santana."

simply not pre-rapping R&B? huh? just cos prince has done R&B ballads, it doesnt make do me baby, adore, international lover or any of those neo soul songs, let alone ballads. neo soul does have a basic sound of its own - its basically reliant on fender rhodes keyboards, rim shots and jazzy chords, etc. prince has NEVER used those things as dominantly for an entire album as he did on TRC, nor has he sounded so much like 70s jazz fusion, both things that are integral to the neo soul sound.

"I don't think Acknowlege me sounds like Babyface or LA. I think a lot of the stuff they did with the Deele sounds like Prince."

go back to the early 90s, listen to la and babyfaces work for other artists, listen to teddy riley and new jack swing - thats the sound prince was going for.

"I guess if Prince put cornrows in his hair that move would be inspired by D'Angelo too. Well guess what he would not be because D'Angelo did'nt invent that hairstyle. According to your logic any time Prince does a ballad he is ripping off Neo-soul people when Neo-people are freely ripping Prince or anything else that came out of the 70's.

Get a grip on reality."

well yes, it would be inspired by dangelo. he popularised cornrows in the mid 90s, that hairstyle became incredibly popular around that time - there is a reason for that.

i dont think this new song is neces. a neo soul type song, but to believe that prince hasnt been inspired/infleunced/whatever by erykah badu, dangelo, bilal, people like that is ridiculous. most neo soul doesnt actually sound much like prince at all, apart from the falsetto vocals of some of the male singers, but thats it. and guess what?! prince didnt invent the falsetto! *gasp*

the only really princely song dangelo has done is untitled, and it was designed to be a tribute. it was said as such in interviews with dangelo before the voodoo album was even finished. i dont think a lot of people here really listen to much new neo soul or R&B at all so simply cant see when prince is motivated by someone new or they think everyone is just copying prince. its laughable.
[This message was edited Wed Mar 17 16:46:41 2004 by funkbabyandthebabysitters]

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:[quote]

laurarichardson said:

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Lot's of people on this board discuss Neo-soul artist. You must not come to this board much if you don't know that. D'Angelo did not make cornrows popular. Black people have been wearing cornrows since the times of slavery. You comment about the cornrows is just as off base as your comments about the neo-soul artist influncing Prince. I think they were influenced by him. Considering D'Angelo and Bilal go out their to vocally sound like Prince and not just because of the falsetto.

It's not neo soul it's neo-oldo-r&b-new jack swingy-post atomic-galatic soul/funk/rock/jazz/....

Damn!! better call that music!!!

laurarichardson said:

Take a load off, sweetie dahling, and stop revealing the depths of your insanity.

[/quote]
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Lot's of people on this board discuss Neo-soul artist. You must not come to this board much if you don't know that. D'Angelo did not make cornrows popular. Black people have been wearing cornrows since the times of slavery. You comment about the cornrows is just as off base as your comments about the neo-soul artist influncing Prince. I think they were influenced by him. Considering D'Angelo and Bilal go out their to vocally sound like Prince and not just because of the falsetto.[/quote]

whatever, prince is too good to be influenced by anyone new right?! did you not hear the lyrics where he references dangelo in get your groove on? did you read the 1996 interview where he says hes 'really digging dangelo'? believe what you want. you must not know a lot about old soul singers who used falsettos cos prince, important as he is to dangelo and bilal, isnt even their chief vocal influence.
[This message was edited Fri Mar 19 2:27:43 2004 by funkbabyandthebabysitters]
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theblueangel said:

exactly, if anyone remembers anything about la and babyface in the late 80s and early 90s, acknwledge me is clearly indebted to their sound.

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

yes.

finally.

someone acknowledging the fact that there was falsetto long before prince came along.

back to topic.

'call my name' reminds me of 'insatiable' and 'adore'.

not the brilliance. just the sound.

it sounds like a prince song.

at least the snippet does.
[This message was edited Fri Mar 19 11:30:34 2004 by purpleone]

Hey, I just searched for 'Prince Call My Name' on google and this thread was the first link that came up!

Well done, PatBoone