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Thread started 01/27/04 1:37am

blackboab

why would a record company want prince now?

i mean, lets be honest here, prince could probably sell around 250,000 albums worldwide with his current fanbase but is that enough for a big record company?
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Reply #1 posted 01/27/04 1:59am

COMON

Does anyone want Prince- unless its live in concert?

Who wants the new crap?

Who wants him, apart from religious sex maniacs?

Did someone say Rasputin?

Larry Graham. Theres a name to be feared and one that brings great sadness in the history of Prince.

I don't meant that entirely. Feel a bit mean now, but you know what I mean. Prince is lost to us! Lost!
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Reply #2 posted 01/27/04 2:01am

Fhunkin

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blackboab said:

i mean, lets be honest here, prince could probably sell around 250,000 albums worldwide with his current fanbase but is that enough for a big record company?


With a litle promotion he will be able to sell that number in the Netherlands only !
So there are reasons for signing him !
[This message was edited Tue Jan 27 2:02:38 PST 2004 by Fhunkin]
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Reply #3 posted 01/27/04 2:57am

PREDOMINANT

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There is no reason not to re-sign, he has a proven track record to bring in high (not nesecarily massive anymore) but still high income for a record company that control playlists and distribution. He is only selling 250,000 because only a select population hear his music.

COMON said:



Who wants the new crap?




wave I want as much of the "new crap" as possible, it is some of the best crap Prince has ever done.
Happy is he who finds out the causes for things.Virgil (70-19 BC). Virgil was such a lying bastard!
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Reply #4 posted 01/27/04 3:10am

softandwet

wave I want as much of the "new crap" as possible, it is some of the best crap Prince has ever done.[/quote]



ill second that one!

theres a profit to be made on prince. he's releasing consistant stuff now, you may not like it but alot of peopl seem to!

plus dont a record company make a profit on tours and stuff?

it wont be for megabucks, but it will be big enough to put his name out there and get him selling again.

i still think unless something major happens and we have hits ala santana supernatural the best we could hope for is a worldwide platinum smash, so it will sell like 2-3-4 million worldwide. i think that would be amazing personally.
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Reply #5 posted 01/27/04 3:30am

DOROTHYPARK

Be honest!
How often do you play his - let's say - last five released albums?
An how often do you listen to older stuff?
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Reply #6 posted 01/27/04 4:09am

MattyJam

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Honestly?

A day rarely passes when I'm not playing at least one track from The Rainbow Children, One Nite Alone or One Nite Alone live.
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Reply #7 posted 01/27/04 6:22am

softandwet

DOROTHYPARK said:

Be honest!
How often do you play his - let's say - last five released albums?
An how often do you listen to older stuff?




i listen to his older stuff alot. at the moment im listening to the truth about once a day. maybe every two days. and if ive got my media player open i always play what ive got from rainbow children and ONA on there.

but yeah i play his 80s stuff alot too. its probably about equal at the moment though. i go through phases!
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Reply #8 posted 01/27/04 6:50am

SassyBritches

DOROTHYPARK said:

Be honest!
How often do you play his - let's say - last five released albums?
An how often do you listen to older stuff?

i listen to one night alone, trc, and the truth a lot. as much as anything from the past. i don't listen to anything from those 'gangsta glam' days though shake
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Reply #9 posted 01/27/04 6:59am

PREDOMINANT

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MattyJam said:

Honestly?

A day rarely passes when I'm not playing at least one track from The Rainbow Children, One Nite Alone or One Nite Alone live.


:cosign:

Add to that Xpectation and News along with the DVD playing away to an audio audience.

I must admit I did have a bit of a Prince fest on Sturday and play the first 6 albums back to back but Sunday, Yesterday and today Have ONLY been albums from the last few years.
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Reply #10 posted 01/27/04 8:44am

thedoorkeeper

blackboab said:

i mean, lets be honest here, prince could probably sell around 250,000 albums worldwide with his current fanbase but is that enough for a big record company?


Prince once sold big
& a record company
may be willing to take a chance that it happens again.
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Reply #11 posted 01/27/04 9:01am

TheOrgerFormer
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All it would take is a killer single and the masses would be all over P again. The song Reflection was very radio friendly to me. I have a lot of non or used to be Prince fans listening to that cut.
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Reply #12 posted 01/27/04 9:11am

NPD313

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Prince is capable of selling millions of records...he's an indie artist duh!

thats why he sells lesser records now-a-days...why are you guys acting so stupid...everyone knows who prince is!
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Reply #13 posted 01/27/04 9:32am

kisscamille

DOROTHYPARK said:

Be honest!
How often do you play his - let's say - last five released albums?
An how often do you listen to older stuff?


I listen to all of his music on a regular basis from the oldest to the most recent. Just the other day I listened to Dirty Mind and then went right on to TRC! music
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Reply #14 posted 01/27/04 10:36am

thedoorkeeper

How often do I listen to Prince's recent releases?

At work I stick NEWS, Xpectation & C-Note on random just about everyday. (I also mix in Madhouse & Eric Leeds.)

At home I put TRC & ONA & RAVE on & program my favorites about twice a week.

I seldom listen to ONAL.(I have the boot of the Buffalo show & I like that better.)
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Reply #15 posted 01/27/04 10:56am

Romance1600

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I think Prince will always be a potentially profitable product for a record company, I don't see any reason why someone wouldn't want to sign him as long he wasn't playing silly buggers.

Prince wants his cake and eat it too though, he's not happy being a multi-talented, multi-millionaire living music legend, he wants a fucking cherry on top, whipped cream, chocolate sauce, imported crushed pistachio nuts and to eat it all out of a sold gold chalice in the shape of a vagina.
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Reply #16 posted 01/27/04 11:45am

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blackboab said:

i mean, lets be honest here, prince could probably sell around 250,000 albums worldwide with his current fanbase but is that enough for a big record company?

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I guess you have not heard that record sales are in the toilet bowl right now. Prince could not do any worst than any of the other groups or artist that are out right now.
I think he could sell 1 million copies of a commercial pop record. Something like what Outkast is doing only he could do it better.
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Reply #17 posted 01/27/04 12:16pm

NME

Prince would be a VERY profitable signing for Warners. As they would get the green light and co-operation to re-release / remaster / repackage the classics.

Other record companies would have to really beleive that HE can still come up with te goods.

you have to remember that the excuse that he's independent now and doesn't have a major backing him isn't completley true. IF he signed up again he'd have to willing to PROMOTE, TRAVEL, TALK TO MEDIA, ETC... the media wouldn't go for all that mysterious shit anymore. I'm not sure he'd like that...
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Reply #18 posted 01/27/04 12:23pm

TheOrgerFormer
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Romance1600 said:

I think Prince will always be a potentially profitable product for a record company, I don't see any reason why someone wouldn't want to sign him as long he wasn't playing silly buggers.

Prince wants his cake and eat it too though, he's not happy being a multi-talented, multi-millionaire living music legend, he wants a fucking cherry on top, whipped cream, chocolate sauce, imported crushed pistachio nuts and to eat it all out of a sold gold chalice in the shape of a vagina.
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Reply #19 posted 01/27/04 12:23pm

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laurarichardson said:

blackboab said:

i mean, lets be honest here, prince could probably sell around 250,000 albums worldwide with his current fanbase but is that enough for a big record company?

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I guess you have not heard that record sales are in the toilet bowl right now. Prince could not do any worst than any of the other groups or artist that are out right now.
I think he could sell 1 million copies of a commercial pop record. Something like what Outkast is doing only he could do it better.


I think record sales are in the toilet because nobody's producing decent consistent albums - it's all one or 2 hit wonders, and then the rest of the album is rubbish. People just wait until the single appears on a 'hits of the year' compilation instead, or download that one hit off the internet.

Prince might produce a consistent album - but the record company would not make so much off him, as I'm sure he'd only accept a deal that favoured him and included owning his masters, which is where longterm they make their money.

Prince would only turn up and promote the album when he felt like it, and he doesn't often do interviews - he would be a difficult artist for a record company to deal with and get the maximum sales for in today's quick-sell market.

Though I'd love to see everyone talking about him again...
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Reply #20 posted 01/27/04 12:56pm

PurpleKnight

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Keep in mind that urban music is absolutely hot right now, and they all pretty much adore what Prince has done.

That could lead to some very profitable collaborations/appearances.

Plus, now that Prince has his name back, I really do think a new album marketed properly could do decently-reasonably well.
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Reply #21 posted 01/27/04 12:58pm

TheOrgerFormer
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PurpleKnight said:

Keep in mind that urban music is absolutely hot right now, and they all pretty much adore what Prince has done.

That could lead to some very profitable collaborations/appearances.

Plus, now that Prince has his name back, I really do think a new album marketed properly could do decently-reasonably well.
Any Prince collabos automatic means I won't buy the album. Rave?
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Reply #22 posted 01/27/04 1:35pm

IstenSzek

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I think signing Prince is no less of a gamble than signing
any other star at this moment cuz the market has gone flat
anyhow.

Plus, with Prince, you know that if he delivers and you
stick to good promotion, he will surely ship around half
a million units.

If the thing takes off he will likely sell more than one
million.

Anyhow, whatever the deal is, I just hope we'll get some
more new music soon.
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #23 posted 01/28/04 3:14am

Novabreaker

Well, he can record his stuff for free at his own studio so there wouldn't be no production costs. Of course he'd be asking for ridiculous advances, but that would be his problem.

Also.. you have a strange concept of "record company". As most Americans do - as they are only thinking of the big league names - selling 250,000 copies is A LOT to most independent labels (and believe me there are more than five of them existing in the world). Most record companies can't even expect their artists to sell more than 50,000 copies worldwide.
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