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Thread started 01/13/04 4:52pm

skywalker

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Do you count NPG albums as official Prince albums?

I only count New Power Soul
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Reply #1 posted 01/13/04 4:57pm

EverlastingNow

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skywalker said:

I only count New Power Soul



That would be the one I would hope NOT to count lol
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Reply #2 posted 01/13/04 5:01pm

gsh

EverlastingNow said:

skywalker said:

I only count New Power Soul



That would be the one I would hope NOT to count lol

Same here.
GoldNigga and Exodus are definitely official Prince albums - don't care what pseudonym he uses or how little of his voice you can hear.
Plus they are both a damn site better thab TRC!
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Reply #3 posted 01/13/04 5:02pm

Milty

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gsh said:

EverlastingNow said:

skywalker said:

I only count New Power Soul



That would be the one I would hope NOT to count lol

Same here.
GoldNigga and Exodus are definitely official Prince albums - don't care what pseudonym he uses or how little of his voice you can hear.
Plus they are both a damn site better thab TRC!


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Reply #4 posted 01/13/04 5:28pm

thedoorkeeper

I divide my Prince cds into 5 groups:
1 - Prince
2 - The Artist
3 - Prince & The Revolution
4 - Prince & The NPG
5 - NPG

So NPG is on the same shelf as Prince.
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Reply #5 posted 01/13/04 6:17pm

Romance1600

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I count two distinct threads of Prince albums:

- Official releases under his names (Prince / prince )
- Official releases produced for other artists.

I count all the NPG albums as other artists.

I know a lot of people group NPS in with Prince albums, but I think that's only because he is so prominent on the album, vocally and visually.

I guess it is the most 'Prince-ly' of all related artist albums - but then it is credited to the NPG, so I regard it as an NPG album.

If he wrote and played almost everything on the Sheila E, Vanity, Apollonia, The Time, Jill Jones records etc, etc - then the only difference between those and NPS is the lead vocals you hear and the face on the album cover.
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Reply #6 posted 01/13/04 6:19pm

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No.
Prince certainly didn't count them as 'official' Prince
albums, so I don't either. If he'd wanted them to, then
he would have released them as 'Prince' albums. It's
much the same situation as with the Madhouse albums, He
wanted them to be viewed seperately from his mainstream
'Prince' releases.
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Reply #7 posted 01/13/04 6:20pm

Romance1600

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BorisFishpaw said:

No.
Prince certainly didn't count them as 'official' Prince
albums, so I don't either. If he'd wanted them to, then
he would have released them as 'Prince' albums. It's
much the same situation as with the Madhouse albums, He
wanted them to be viewed seperately from his mainstream
'Prince' releases.


Or, What he said! lol
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Reply #8 posted 01/13/04 8:09pm

rudedog

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skywalker said:

I only count New Power Soul


I only count Exodus and New Power Sould. I don't count Goldnigga wink
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Reply #9 posted 01/14/04 3:04pm

danielboon

they r all prince albums just like the symbol albums r all prince albums 2 . who's kiddin who ?
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Reply #10 posted 01/14/04 3:13pm

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This is a question I've idly asked myself over the years. I go in and out of including them as 'Prince' albums - NPS really confused the issue - before then, NPG albums had someone else on lead vox (although Exodus was a little confusing here becase of The Exodus Has Begun).

After all, how could The Flow be a Prince song and The One not be?

On my HD, I have all the songs Prince has released, and in the rotation, after some debating in my mind, I've included GN, Exodus and NPS tracks. After more debating, I included Madhouse tracks too, since Xpectation and NEWS are just as band-oriented as Madhouse (if not moreso) - if released now, I think they would be 'Prince' albums.

After reading this topic, though, I'm tempted to take NPG and Madhouse tracks off.

Damn, why do I spend so much time thinking about pointless shit?
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Reply #11 posted 01/14/04 3:21pm

MattyJam

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How can you NOT count NPS as a Prince album?

He wrote the songs, plays on them, performs them...

Just because he got someone else to do backing vox?
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Reply #12 posted 01/14/04 3:24pm

Therapy

I actually don't care. Why put it all into boxes? I listen to music. I love it when Prince is obviously heard. The End!
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Reply #13 posted 01/14/04 3:32pm

realm

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I actually don't care. Why put it all into boxes? I listen to music. I love it when Prince is obviously heard. The End!


I think most run out of space to put them so then you need to re-catagoryizethem! Prove me wrong no! Most of you have the old 100cd holder full of Prince and prolly a few other holders! Heck a few of you that burn the rules have a few 1000 Prince cds! bawhawhawhaw
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Reply #14 posted 01/14/04 6:03pm

justhemusic

skywalker said:

I only count New Power Soul


i haven't heard any of them...except i think i got New Power Soul in a stack somewhere but i don't remember listening to it more than once or twice...was it any good?...i remember it stinking but i may give it another chance one day...

haven't heard those other two though...Exodus & Gold Nigga...are they really any good?
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Reply #15 posted 01/14/04 6:09pm

MattyJam

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justhemusic said:

skywalker said:

I only count New Power Soul


i haven't heard any of them...except i think i got New Power Soul in a stack somewhere but i don't remember listening to it more than once or twice...was it any good?...i remember it stinking but i may give it another chance one day...

haven't heard those other two though...Exodus & Gold Nigga...are they really any good?


New Power Soul largely stinks. But Come On and The One are truly remarkable records. Two of his best I think.

And I'm also rather partial to the sappy but sweet Until U're In My Arms Again.
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Reply #16 posted 01/14/04 6:30pm

Anxiety

NPS is such a Prince album it isn't even funny. I mean (pardon the pun), COME ON now!!!

"Exodus" came off like a glorified publicity stunt that got sidetracked into one of those projects he was all into one day and forgot about the next.

"Goldnigga" just seemed like the product of Prince's inexplicable placing of his own head up Tony M's ass.
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Reply #17 posted 01/14/04 11:19pm

IstenSzek

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I've just shelved them all in one long chornological line.

I just put different side labels onto the albums, so for
example NPS and EXODUS are now labelled:

o(+> and the New Power Generation - Exodus

o(+> and the NPG - New Power Soul

Don't ask me why

I've also included "The Undertaker" on my official albums
list.

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Reply #18 posted 01/15/04 1:51am

AsylumUtopia

booyah said:

This is a question I've idly asked myself over the years. I go in and out of including them as 'Prince' albums - NPS really confused the issue - before then, NPG albums had someone else on lead vox (although Exodus was a little confusing here becase of The Exodus Has Begun).

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure Prince does lead vox on all the Exodus songs except Hallucination Rain?
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Reply #19 posted 01/15/04 2:04am

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AsylumUtopia said:

booyah said:

This is a question I've idly asked myself over the years. I go in and out of including them as 'Prince' albums - NPS really confused the issue - before then, NPG albums had someone else on lead vox (although Exodus was a little confusing here becase of The Exodus Has Begun).

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure Prince does lead vox on all the Exodus songs except Hallucination Rain?


Sonny T. does lead vocals on most of the tracks on Exodus.
Well, to be more accurate, Sonny T. and Prince both sing
the lead vocal line simultaneously on most songs, but it's
Sonny T's vocal that is pushed to the foreground in the mix.
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Reply #20 posted 01/15/04 3:01am

AsylumUtopia

BorisFishpaw said:

AsylumUtopia said:

booyah said:

This is a question I've idly asked myself over the years. I go in and out of including them as 'Prince' albums - NPS really confused the issue - before then, NPG albums had someone else on lead vox (although Exodus was a little confusing here becase of The Exodus Has Begun).

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure Prince does lead vox on all the Exodus songs except Hallucination Rain?


Sonny T. does lead vocals on most of the tracks on Exodus.
Well, to be more accurate, Sonny T. and Prince both sing
the lead vocal line simultaneously on most songs, but it's
Sonny T's vocal that is pushed to the foreground in the mix.

Are you sure about this? I haven't listened to it in a while but off the top of my head Cherry Cherry, The Good Life, Count the Days and Return of the Bump Squad all sound to me like Prince on lead vox. Sonny T may be there too, but Prince has a fairly different voice and it's definitely him I hear singing on those songs anyway.
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Reply #21 posted 01/15/04 3:37am

BlissedAgain

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I actually don't care.



me either
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Reply #22 posted 01/15/04 5:20am

daned

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BorisFishpaw said:

No.
Prince certainly didn't count them as 'official' Prince
albums, so I don't either. If he'd wanted them to, then
he would have released them as 'Prince' albums. It's
much the same situation as with the Madhouse albums, He
wanted them to be viewed seperately from his mainstream
'Prince' releases.



Wasn't it just the case that WB couldn't keep up with P's productivity rate, so the compromise they reached was that he could release a couple of albums himself as long he didn't actively promote them as Prince albums? Hence Sonny T's lead vocals, the name Tora Tora and the TV interview where he's wearing a ruddy great beekeepers hat and answering the interviewees questions by whispering his answers to his wife?

Then after being freed, he released NPS with his face on the cover and took lead vocals as an act of defiance, like saying "NPG is Prince"?

That was my take on it.
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Reply #23 posted 01/15/04 5:31am

TheRealFiness

Take em 2 funk school Boris smile
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Reply #24 posted 01/19/04 10:37am

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If they were 2 be counted as Prince albums it should say Prince on the cover.

They are under related in my record collection, with Sheila, The Time, Jill Jones and the rest of the guys.
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