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I thought this avatar especially appropriate to honor the fact that Prince was a no show at the Family Jamm. Shiela put so much effort into this gathering and he wasted a perfect opportunity. All this religious mumbo jumbo about unity and love and yet he won't seize the opportunity to unite with the people that helped make his life what it was.

Don't misunderstand me, Prince is the ultimate architect of his life, however without these people, his life might not have been so colorful. Prince expressed the desire for reconciliation with former friends in the song "In This Bed I Scream", and when presented with the opportunity to come together and show that the past is the past, he shows his true colors.

Anyway, I know everyone had fun and I hope there's another Jamm, and flawed or not, I'm still on this damn ride!

PS-I took this picture the night before the Jamm so it had more to do with the fact that Prince simply needs to kiss Supa's ass than any disappointment that he didn't show up...

PS edit...
[This message was edited Tue Dec 16 12:59:30 PST 2003 by SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy]

Prince is a prat sometimes.I grasped that years ago, I still love the little fella though!

you go Supa!!!

Prince you're a poo poo head sumtimes.

still love ya tho.

the punk even made money on the royalties cuz of the songs that were performed.

Hahahaha!!! Love it!!!

Milty said:

I'd forgot about that! I hope he waived them.

Bwahahahahaha! SUpa you rock!

I am proud that Sheila has grown to be a grand human being... She deserves much love and will be greatly rewarded for the love she shows towards abused children.

Marrk said:

let's hope he gave them away to a good cause and not his damn religion.

I really wanna know, why everyone has something negative to say because he did no show. I noticed Sheila clowned Morris because he did not have the time. Has it occured to anyone that when asked by Sheila that he might have responded to her and maybe mentioned he had other plans or he could not make it there, do to other engagements. Has it ever even occured to anyone that if he had showed that the concert would have been all about Prince and totally miss what the benefit was for. (sometimes I wonder about people.) Anyway enough venting.

Can anyone please tell me who the tall dude with the purple hat and long silver jacket was?

soul41 said:

While the possibilities are limitless as to why he couldn't make it, chances are he could have made it with no problem whatsoever. What could have been more important than this? That new project that will never see the light of day? Prince showing up to the event would not have prevented anybody from knowing the intent of the benefit.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

i agree. it's not like Prince is in desperate need from the media, like he had a thousand interviews that day. or he was going to some amazing premiere. all he's doing is hanging out with the missus, changing icons around on the website, noodling on his guitar, annoying Renato with the Bible, etc
he was probably to "shy" to appear. or like he says on The Ride in Las Vegas '"i'm gonna be trying to read".

And might I add that I took this picture the night before the Jamm so it had more to do with the fact that Prince simply needs to kiss Supa's ass than any disappointment that he didn't show up...

I've read somewhere Jehovas Witnesses don't do charity.I don't know if that's true or not. Perhaps someone can clarify?

Marrk said:

No, that's not true.

Marrk said:

Don't know about that, but apparently he donated $$$ to the cause.

SupaFunkyOrganGrinderSexy, thanks so much for starting this thread. Your initial post is what I feel as well. I still love Prince but there are times when he really should be ashamed of himself and this is definitely one of those times. I'm with you Supa, more than likely he could have made it but he CHOSE not too.

Although I did not make the show (I hope the next one is in TEXAS :LOL:), I personally was disappointed to find out he didn't show, and became PISSED OFF, when I found out HE WAS ACTUALLY IN LOS ANGELES AT THE TIME. For THAT Prince should be ashamed. So what he contributed money...it was the Principle of the fact that he didn't show. Besides, if it was simply money, he could have agreed to show up and they would have sold a heck of a lot more tickets and probably made more money than they needed.

For those that have the attitude of Prince not being able to win or lose, step back and look at this situation. We all know this show was about the LABF and how much this charity means to Sheila E ( I was abused myself and will be contributing to her organization because of the "escape" the 80's Prince Family provided for me). Knowing how important this was to Sheila E., do you guys think she would have even invited Prince if she thought the message would have been lost by his presence? NO!. Besides, from the things I've read about the show so far, it sounds as if throughout the entire night, the audience was reminded what the night was truly about and I think that was evident because most of the reviews I've read, the person has mentioned how enlightend they were about the abuse of children and are talking of how to contribute. I think Sheila was successful in everyone not loosing sight of what it was all about. So I don't think him showing up would have taken anything away.

We all know Prince did not agree to come, but just because it was the "right" thing to do, he should have shown. It didn't matter if he just walked out on stage during the last song, with shades on with one hand in his pocket, while sucking a lollipop, and not saying a word, like he did on the American Music Awards, him being on stage with them would have made a difference.

If he felt uncomfortable about so many of his ex's being in the room, he could have had Mani on his arm every step of the way, giving him all types of support.

If it was his guilty concious for doing some of the people there wrong, those of them that had gotten over it and forgiven him, showed up. Otherwise, if they were still bitter toward him, they would have not attended knowing there was a possibility Prince would be there.

In a sense for me, deep down I also saw this as a sort of "Tribute" to him, and he didn't show up. There is a part of me that sees that as not only disrespect to the people that participated but also to the foundation (despite his monetary contribution), his fans, Sheila E., and to himself.

But on top of it all, the worst part of it is HE WAS ACTUALLY IN TOWN. I've said before and I say again, SHAME ON PRINCE FOR THAT!!!

stymie said:

If i may quote from J Randy Taraborrellii's book on MJ:

"They (JW's) usually will not contribute money to any group outside their own church because they consider preaching the gospel the most worthwhile, charitable deed."

I'd say 'usually' is the operatve word here, but Prince appears heavily into this, so he may go by the book.

Marrk said:

I didn't go, but according to others who did the program for the show said he contributed $$$.

Universaluv said:

good on him if that's true.

VelvetJ said:

Well I absolutely agree 1000% with everything you just said!

Prince should be ashamed and don't give me this load of bullocks about Jehovah disapproving of idolotry or some other load of shit. Jehovah would absolutely approve of Prince helping an absolutely worthy cause and if he's willing to put his $$$ behind it, he should have been willing to back it with his person.

I wonder how long would this thread last if copied and pasted into the forums @ NPGMC?

after he's done smoochin over there, pass 'im over to me.

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

It felt just like I thought it would...Soft & Wet

Marrk said:

I wouldn't exactly call a traditional Witness. Regardless of his faith, he still finds ways to do things his way.

Marrk said:

Well, there is a thread not exactly like this but similar about P not showing up at the event. So far, it has stayed up. I would love to post here what NuPwrSoul's reply was. I was very suprised at it.

i tried to stay silent but i just can't. some of you people kill me. how dare you try and tell prince what he should do with his time. how he should contribute to a certain cause and then on top of that, insinuate that it's because of his religion that he didn't show(not all of you did this). prince is a grown man and he can do what ever he pleases, and however he pleases. to say you would have liked him to be there is one thing, but to judge him because he wasn't is out of line. why didn't all of you attend. and for those who did why didn't you donate even more time and money on top of that? no need to answer because frankly, it's none of my bussiness. period.

Prince made absolutely NO money from the performaces of his songs at the Family Jamm...

Unless there is a commercial release of the performances (which according to Sheila's website, there won't be), nobody had to pay Prince a red cent for these performances. I understand the music business can be complicated, but the information on writer's mechanicals are relatively straight-forward and is readily available for those who are willing to seek it out. In other words, don't just assume Prince got paid for the performances; look it up!

As for my thoughts on Prince not making an appearance, see my post below...




-SWANGholdsitdown
[This message was edited Tue Dec 16 13:46:56 PST 2003 by SWANG]

Milty said:

see above post!!

-SWANGgonbuyafactchecker

Instead of looking at it as an ego thing, I'd prefer to view Prince's non-appearance as just about the smartest decision made that night.

Look at it this way:

As incredible as I'm sure the concert was, and as good an idea as this 'Family Reunion' (of sorts) was, it was an event that was predominantly about drawing attention to (and providing funds for) programs benefiting abused children. The moment Prince walks out on that stage the event becomes about him and not about child abuse. Perhaps that's why he chose to donate funds to Sheila's charity rather than perform. I'll quote an unlikely source:

"...This is America. And in America, we should expect our millionaires to give millions..."

Prince is probably the only millionaire among those who were invited to participate in the Family Jamm event. Rather than show up and turn attention away from the cause itself, this particular "millionaire" made his behind-the-scenes donation, while the "non-millionaires" chose to offer what they were able to.

Now matter how much this may have disappointed some of you who attended, it does make sense.

BTW, the quote was from Rosie O'Donnell, speaking about the surprising number of celebrities she phoned on the morning of 9/11 who refused to donate any funds to start a charity with her, but faced the nation several days later on the 9/11 telethon to beg the rest of us to send money.

-SWANGdidn'tthinky'allheardme

bsmooth732001 said:

Freedom of speech is a bitch aint it?

It'd be a pretty blank forum without any views and opinions or worse still, complete agreement between every bloody poster.

Thanks for sharing your opinion though.