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Printablehectim said: At least Prince credits the song as a cover. Whereas Led Zep themselves just copied You Need Loving by the Small faces and gave it another title. I am not kidding. Search it out, listen to it and tell me I'm wrong. Same lyrics, same riff, same psychedelic yelping middle bit and everything. Man was I disillusioned when I heard it!
 You're wrong.  Only about the Small Faces.
"You Need Love" is where "Whole Lotta Love" was swiped from. Written by Willie Dixon and performed by Muddy Waters in 1962. Dixon also filed suit against Zep for it. As great as Led Zep was, they swiped a lot of old blues, but I still love 'em. Not because they're beyond reproach (they're certainly not), but because I like the creative way they used their thievery. 
` [This message was edited Thu Oct 30 10:19:11 PST 2003 by Supernova] This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes. | |
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calldapplwondery83 said: Prince cannot play Rock? Get outta here!
It's why you really can't respond to the first post with any sincerity. This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes. | |
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hectim said: At least Prince credits the song as a cover. Whereas Led Zep themselves just copied You Need Loving by the Small faces and gave it another title. I am not kidding. Search it out, listen to it and tell me I'm wrong. Same lyrics, same riff, same psychedelic yelping middle bit and everything. Man was I disillusioned when I heard it!
Close but you are wrong. The original version is from Willie Dixon. LED ZEP was sued for plagirism and settled with the Dixon estate. That's why all future reissues have a shared credit: Complete Studio Recordings - '93 10. Whole Lotta Love (Bonham/Dixon/Jones/Page/Plant) - 5:34 So who does Prince credit? test | |
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Marry me SUPERNOVA, I think I love you. test | |
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Tom said: The version on the NightTown bootleg is phenomenal. The version I heard recorded from the Celebration a couple years ago is awful.
Really? I don't mean the acoustic version from the unplugged set, but the fullblown all-bandmember in check version. The NIGHTTOWN version is cool though, I admit, but I still prefer the Celebration take. and true love lives on lollipops and crisps | |
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PFunkjazz said: hectim said: At least Prince credits the song as a cover. Whereas Led Zep themselves just copied You Need Loving by the Small faces and gave it another title. I am not kidding. Search it out, listen to it and tell me I'm wrong. Same lyrics, same riff, same psychedelic yelping middle bit and everything. Man was I disillusioned when I heard it!
Close but you are wrong. The original version is from Willie Dixon. LED ZEP was sued for plagirism and settled with the Dixon estate. That's why all future reissues have a shared credit: Complete Studio Recordings - '93 10. Whole Lotta Love (Bonham/Dixon/Jones/Page/Plant) - 5:34 Unfortunately, many blues pioneers never got their just due!! So who does Prince credit? | |
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manray10 said: Unfortunately, many blues pioneers never got their just due! Looks like Dixon did, though posthumously!  test | |
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herb4 said: Love Zep and Prince.
Loved the cover. Wish he'd gone a bit more nuts with the axe at the end, instead of just posing with it - but P could do a whole show of Zeppelin covers and I'd be happy. If you don't like Led Zeppelin, you don't like rock n roll.  "I saw a woman with major Hammer pants on the subway a few weeks ago and totally thought of you." - sextonseven | |
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I like rock and roll, I like Led Zeppelin, I like Jimmy Page, and I like the song, but
Am I the only one who prefers Prince's cover? It's better by miles. | |
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gsh said: I fucking loathe Led Zep, but think Prince's "Whole lotta love " is okay. Damn sight better than the awful original!
First of all, Led Zeppelin IS the greatest rock band ever to grace the earth. And P's version was ok up until the wack ending. Nowhere near the Zep version. All the gals say hoe if your man's giving up the gold. All the fellas say ruff if you're only giving up the bone. | |
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hectim said: At least Prince credits the song as a cover. Whereas Led Zep themselves just copied You Need Loving by the Small faces and gave it another title. I am not kidding. Search it out, listen to it and tell me I'm wrong. Same lyrics, same riff, same psychedelic yelping middle bit and everything. Man was I disillusioned when I heard it!
This is common knowledge. All the gals say hoe if your man's giving up the gold. All the fellas say ruff if you're only giving up the bone. | |
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garnis said: gsh said: I fucking loathe Led Zep, but think Prince's "Whole lotta love " is okay. Damn sight better than the awful original!
First of all, Led Zeppelin IS the greatest rock band ever to grace the earth.  "I saw a woman with major Hammer pants on the subway a few weeks ago and totally thought of you." - sextonseven | |
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garnis said: gsh said: I fucking loathe Led Zep, but think Prince's "Whole lotta love " is okay. Damn sight better than the awful original!
First of all, Led Zeppelin IS the greatest rock band ever to grace the earth. And P's version was ok up until the wack ending. Nowhere near the Zep version. I agree that. I don't like the ending, it's unnecessary, but man, I repeat I love LZ and I have played their songs a lot of times, but, about this song, I prefer Prince's version (except for the ending). [This message was edited Thu Oct 30 15:21:07 PST 2003 by JavierAlcalde] | |
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minneapolisgenius said: garnis said: gsh said: I fucking loathe Led Zep, but think Prince's "Whole lotta love " is okay. Damn sight better than the awful original!
First of all, Led Zeppelin IS the greatest rock band ever to grace the earth. I can't claim to be a big rock fan but Led Zeppelin is the best I've heard and yes they rocked the song better than P did (atleast on the version I heard). LZ's version is hard. It's so good I don't mind they didn't write it-- as long as they didn't pull a Milli Vanilli. I'm sure they added a lot of their own style to the song, thus making it their own. Look at Hendrix's version of Dylan's "All Along The Watchtower". Of course credit must be given where it's due. (I still don't understand why people are so reluctant to give other's credit  ) |
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i have Led Zeppelin's version on vinyl and i always thought some parts of the song was so boring.P's version kicks ass up to the end of the song, that part sucks, but overall i prefer P's version. | |
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Supernova said: "You Need Love" is where "Whole Lotta Love" was swiped from. Written by Willie Dixon and performed by Muddy Waters in 1962. Dixon also filed suit against Zep for it. As great as Led Zep was, they swiped a lot of old blues, but I still love 'em. Not because they're beyond reproach (they're certainly not), but because I like the creative way they used their thievery.
` [This message was edited Thu Oct 30 10:19:11 PST 2003 by Supernova] It was amusingly ironic how upset they were when the Beastie Boys sampled thier licks. "...all you need ...is justa touch...of mojo hand....." | |
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IstenSzek said: Did you ever hear the version of "Whole Lotta Love" he
played at the Celebration last year. That one's out of this world. I also thought the take of it on the live DVD was a bit watered down and less in your face. But the Celebration version, 10minutes48seconds, is just maddening. It rocks so incredibly hard and it's so intense. I just can't get enough of it. I've got the Xenophobia boot, and I think the acoustic version is quite cool. The version from 24th kind of meanders a bit on the guitar solo though. G All orgnotes and emails requesting trades or how to acquire bootleggage will be ignored. - The ThreadKiller - | |
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ThataintFunky said: Damned ... what is he thinking?
What an awful version is that ... Led Zeppelin's original version is far superior Prince's version sounds like a "Weird al Yankavic" one. One more prove Prince can't play rock ... and his voice really can't handle this one! Sorry to all members of the Prince-clan ... but you still wonder why Jimi Page is higher on the guitarist top 100 ??? and Robert Plant knows the limitations of his voice. For the young Prince-fans, who haven't heard LZ ... how is that possible? I truly wish Prince hired a second guitarist, so he can do what he can do best: jam on that guitar! Are u referring to the "ALADIN DVD"? If so u are definetly trippin cause this version is extremely powerful for a cover, Nobody can do it like Zep., but it is their song. Prince I think was paying respects to the "Masters of Rock" Even Robert Plant would probably like this work and Jimmy Page has been said to love Prince "rock". [This message was edited Thu Oct 30 21:37:33 PST 2003 by lmas] | |
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I think it's kinda cool that Prince gave it a shot, but I've personally never been a fan of covers | |
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was the basic gist of the original post that prince can't play rock music? if so, 
Crack really DOES kill as far as the cover goes, it's good, not better than zeppelin's or the true original, but still good ~KiKi | |
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Dig 'em both  Y'all know P's cover is the shit!!  I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it | |
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lovebizzare said: was the basic gist of the original post that prince can't play rock music? if so,
Crack really DOES kill as far as the cover goes, it's good, not better than zeppelin's or the true original, but still good Indeed ... Prince's guitar-work is too clean. Prince can rock like Bon Jovi, Aerosmith, Brian Adams and all those other wanckers ... But he can't rock like Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple, Nirvana, Soundgarden, the Deftones or any other real ROCK-band. That isn't purely about technical skills ... P ain't got the attitude But he can jam on that funky guitar, so why doesn't he? P, Hire a second guitarist with an attitude and jam together!! Too bad I'm the only one feeling this way... I suppose the others have left the building a long time ago And all you wanckers who have a problem with my bad english ... how good are your foreign languages? | |
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ThataintFunky said: lovebizzare said: was the basic gist of the original post that prince can't play rock music? if so,
Crack really DOES kill as far as the cover goes, it's good, not better than zeppelin's or the true original, but still good Indeed ... Prince's guitar-work is too clean. Prince can rock like Bon Jovi, Aerosmith, Brian Adams and all those other wanckers ... But he can't rock like Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple, Nirvana, Soundgarden, the Deftones or any other real ROCK-band. That isn't purely about technical skills ... P ain't got the attitude But he can jam on that funky guitar, so why doesn't he? P, Hire a second guitarist with an attitude and jam together!! Too bad I'm the only one feeling this way... I suppose the others have left the building a long time ago And all you wanckers who have a problem with my bad english ... how good are your foreign languages? OH MA GOD...  "I saw a woman with major Hammer pants on the subway a few weeks ago and totally thought of you." - sextonseven | |
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Did Tom Jones cover of Kiss sound like Prince's Kiss? Hell no, but it was Jones's take on the cover. I love Led Zep and I think Prince's version was good. Once again,it's the artist take on the song.[/quote]
for once im going to be one of those anal people that correct everything here: it was jones' take on kiss it was the art of noises! jones was guest singer!  | |
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Indeed ... Prince's guitar-work is too clean.
Prince can rock like Bon Jovi, Aerosmith, Brian Adams and all those other wanckers ... But he can't rock like Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple, Nirvana, Soundgarden, the Deftones or any other real ROCK-band. That isn't purely about technical skills ... P ain't got the attitude yuck!!! prince cant rock like aerosmith! remember prince's first style isnt really rock, though im not denying he can do it well. but still, trying to say deftones are a real rock band and aerosmith arent. in the words of princes mom in purple rain YOURE CRAZY!!!  | |
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strange ...
when I ask for an advice wether to buy "Whole Lotta Love 4 Paris" I get zero response http://www.prince.org/msg/7/64604 When I give my opinion, which is obviously not common, about one track on it ... then ya'll complaining ... that doesn't make sense ... What's this ORG all about then ...??? [This message was edited Fri Oct 31 10:35:43 PST 2003 by ThataintFunky] | |
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ThataintFunky said: lovebizzare said: was the basic gist of the original post that prince can't play rock music? if so,
Crack really DOES kill as far as the cover goes, it's good, not better than zeppelin's or the true original, but still good Indeed ... Prince's guitar-work is too clean. Prince can rock like Bon Jovi, Aerosmith, Brian Adams and all those other wanckers ...  This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes. | |
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ThataintFunky said: When I give my opinion, which is obviously not common, about one track on it ... then ya'll complaining ...
opinions are quite common here. So you don't like as ong, that's okay. But the basic gist of you're original post was that Prince can't play rock, obviously that opinion won't be too popular around here Whenever you post an opinion expect someone to disagree with it, it's human nature. Not everyone has the same thoughts/ideas, you know 
that doesn't make sense ...
What's this ORG all about then ...??? the longer you're here I think you'll realize that A LOT of things on the org don't make sense ~KiKi | |
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for everybody who thinks that prince cant rock,
play bambi from last years celebration. he rock there much better then those bands ever did. jimmy page have great riffs but very weak guitar solos. | |
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thebanishedone said: for everybody who thinks that prince cant rock,
play bambi from last years celebration. he rock there much better then those bands ever did. Obviously I'm rockin' harder than most ORG-members. The only Live-version of "BAMBI" that impresses me is the opening song of "8 March 1982 First Avenue" (Dance 2 the beat). That's a rock version!! But it wouldn't surprise me that most orgers disagree again. Rock ought to be raw ... just like funk | |
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