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PrintableNuPwr319 said: I've got a question: If Prince had made this "meet and greet" a "all proceeds go to the love4oneanother charity" type deal or a charity auction-type thang a la Sheila E's "meet and greet", would you still have a problem with it?
Jus' wonderin. . . that'd be cool, if some of the ducketts he got went to charity. least it'd be for a worthy cause, as opposed to merely linin his pockets...  | |
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: NuPwr319 said: I've got a question: If Prince had made this "meet and greet" a "all proceeds go to the love4oneanother charity" type deal or a charity auction-type thang a la Sheila E's "meet and greet", would you still have a problem with it?
Jus' wonderin. . . that'd be cool, if some of the ducketts he got went to charity. least it'd be for a worthy cause, as opposed to merely linin his pockets... Hmmm. . .maybe somebuddy might mention this over at the big NPGMC ranch???  | |
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NuPwr319 said: I've got a question: If Prince had made this "meet and greet" a "all proceeds go to the love4oneanother charity" type deal or a charity auction-type thang a la Sheila E's "meet and greet", would you still have a problem with it?
Jus' wonderin. . . nah, i just don't dig the idea of making money off of people due to an iconic image, even if its for charitable purposes. he's a wealthy man, if he wants to give to a charity, take it outta yer own pocket and do it anonymously...real charity goes unnoticed by the public. | |
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danielboon said: tricky99 said: Get off your high horse dude. Yes Prince is a hypocrite, so am I, and so are u. He's human like the rest of us. A mix of high ideas and common desire just like the next man. Brother wants to (needs to) get paid. Got to maintain a lifestyle and business. Nobody has his back. As an independant legend he's on the highwire without a net. Are u going to save him if he falls? Why u act like you're on crack and he's the dealer? The pusherman rasied the price and u bitch. I just shrug my shoulders and groove to N.E.W.S. If he charges 2 dollars are 2 million, i still groove. My money's in my pocket and the bank. The addicts are mad because their craving is so strong. And they are desperate for the fix. He's not a God and he don't belong to u. He's just an incredibly gifted musician with a mixed up mind just like any other true genius. Pay if u want to meet the genius, life is short. Probably the memory of the meeting will be with u till the grave,money comes and goes. In the end its your CHOICE!!! Stop the sceaming crack fiends.
you put your point over very very well. i just HONESTLY ! and its my HONEST opinion think, its real bad taste.it makes him a comical figure , it pisses people off, he's awsome at pissin people off u cant deny that ? , i would pay crazy money to see him perform f**k ive done it, it cost me (planes trains and auto mobiles !) to see him last year it was worth it he was fantastic. in concert no one can touch him.i can afford the meet and greet but its about the fact he's agreed to this. its wrong to charge to meet your fans ! it doesnt matter who it is prince mj or ac/dc. it doesnt matter whether u can and cant afford it. its WRONG and its SAD and it is low and it is just so unstylish.. jeee how disappointing | |
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imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said: if madonna pulled something like this i would be like "that woman is outta her mind"
Er, didn't Madonna charge about this much just to have a decent view at her last London dates. End of the day:- who gives a fuck? He's not said you have to pay that much to come along, just pay that much to wave at him. So what? "You know, you're the classic example of the inverse ratio between the size of the mouth and the size of the brain" | |
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Having worked in the entertainmentindustry for years, charging $ for meet & greets is common practice both with Sporting and Concert events; however in most cases it is associated with charity. In this case, Prince is the charity - sad but true.
Had he been smarter, he would have tied the meet and greet into radio contests in exchange for airplay, which might have put him on the map again - but as we know, the man has no concept whatsoever of promotion. And, if he's really in dire straights for $, he could have played the same game the Rolling Stones did last year by offering a $50 on-line raffle to the world whereby one lucky winner and guest got to spend an evening backstage. Over $250 million was garnered by that play alone, on top of ticket sales and merchandise. Can U imagine? Mind boggling isn't it. Clever though. I love the man's music and try to separate his being from his craft - but he is one of the biggest hypocrites on the planet. What goes around comes around and his Karma bank is bleeding red. I wouldn't be surprised that with all the chatter going on over this, he doesn't quickly throw up a charity link this week to counteract the noise. | |
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am I missing something? Prince is actually making himself available to meet the few people who love his music, and because he is charging money, some people are bitching? WTF. He isn't signed with a major label so he has to do something to keep up the extravegant life and keep releasing new CDs that don't seem to sell. Obviously, there are those out there who want to shake the man's hand and tell him how he has affected them since it is sold out. Personally, for a shy recluse, it sounds like he is coming a long way. I can't imagine the Prince of 84-86 doing something like this. Can you?
If you don't want to pay the money, don't do it. If you do, have a blast. Stop bitching about this. It is his right to do it, and there are alot of fans (thats right, I said fans) that want to be able to meet him and this is the first time he has opened his door to something like this. If you keep up this complaining, he won't even do this next time. The expanded version of my book PRINCE and The Purple Rain Era Studio Sessions 1983-1984 was released in November 2018. (www.amazon.com/gp/product/1538114623/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i0) or www.facebook.com/groups/1...104195943/ | |
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madhouseman said: am I missing something? Prince is actually making himself available to meet the few people who love his music, and because he is charging money, some people are bitching? WTF. He isn't signed with a major label so he has to do something to keep up the extravegant life and keep releasing new CDs that don't seem to sell. Obviously, there are those out there who want to shake the man's hand and tell him how he has affected them since it is sold out. Personally, for a shy recluse, it sounds like he is coming a long way. I can't imagine the Prince of 84-86 doing something like this. Can you?
If you don't want to pay the money, don't do it. If you do, have a blast. Stop bitching about this. It is his right to do it, and there are alot of fans (thats right, I said fans) that want to be able to meet him and this is the first time he has opened his door to something like this. If you keep up this complaining, he won't even do this next time. --- Right On. If you do not want to pay don't but try to tell others what to do or dictate Prince's economic situation. He does not have a major record company behind him and needs to generate income just like everybody else. Since the diamond tickets have sold out there are people who are excited about this and want to meet the man. For the record I would not pay a $1,000.00 to see anyone but, if this is what Prince wants to do and he can pull it off more power to him. | |
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danielboon said: i cant find the words to describe prince charging his fans to meet him.if he goes through with this he will be a laughing stock , is he that desperate for "the root of all evil " this is sad , the actions of a desperado me thinks.
meeting a celeb is all about the surprise ive never met prince , i have met levi,michael b, damon,kirk, tony m, morris hayes , tommy barberella.in 93 the whole band autographed my ticket except prince diamond and pearl, damon explained "prince just dont do autographs man". in 95 it was morris and tommy who told me where the aftershow was going to be that night in glasgow.i asked the guys to take my ticket back stage for prince to autograph they politely said it was more than their job was worth and prince would not sign anything for the fans !.ive twice been refused an autograph, but for 900.00 aussie $'s , we can finally meet him ! F**KIN UNBELIEVABLE ! what happens if you meet him in say sydney before the gig , do you say "hi prince ive always wanted to meet you hold on a second til i write you a cheque" ! why does prince continually f**k his fans over ? and why do we f**kin put up with it ? one last point. i met ice t and mooseman from the metal band body count , remember them ? cop killer etc. mooseman took me onto the tour bus he autographed my ticket (f**k the police mooseman) he took 5 minutes to say "hey man enjoy the gig ", "hope you like the new stuff" mooseman is dead now, killed in a drive by, but ive got that great memory from a great gig and it never cost me a penny . interresting... but at the same time when i heard P was doin' this i wasn't sure what 2 think & at the same time i know the brotha'z trying 2 make some $$$ 4 himself but i ain't feelin' him chargin' us 2 met him. i love P like a brotha but that ain't happenin'. like i said at 1 of my Prince Yahoo! Groups if i had the $$$ 2 do it & i didn't "need" it then that would b a whole nother ball game. makes u wonder what's going thru P's mind... if this was 4 Charity like some1 said earlier then i would b feelin' it. hint! hint! (P). Peace ... & Stay Funky ...
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At first, I thought the title of this thread was "paying to see an atheist", lol!
It is of secondary importance to me. Still, could somebody confirm this to be a solid fact or is it just another case of yet more embellished hearsay with everybody knee-jerk jumping on the bashing bandwagon? Given the accustomed level of gossip-mongering here at the org it is very hard at times to keep up with the truth of anything... . "You don't frighten us, English pig dogs. Go and boil your bottoms, sons of a silly person." | |
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madhouseman said: am I missing something? Prince is actually making himself available to meet the few people who love his music
uh uh...the few fans that have an extra 1000 lying about. what about the fans that have been with him for 2o years and would not be able to afford it. do they not deserve the same meet and greet? He isn't signed with a major label so he has to do something to keep up the extravegant life and keep releasing new CDs that don't seem to sell.
there are plenty of artists not signed to major labels and running their careers as DIY artists. ani difranco, natalie merchant are just a couple. yes, prince has an extravagant lifestyle...that his fans helped to GIVE him. the thanks is this...well, thanks but no thanks. i'm not saying he owes anybody anything but, shit, either meet them or don't meet them. there should be no money involved. Obviously, there are those out there who want to shake the man's hand and tell him how he has affected them since it is sold out.
yes, there are. so they should have to pay prince just to tell him "thank you (fill in album name here) meant so much to me. it changed my life". are you even fo real? most artists would be thrilled to meet anyone who tells them they love that artists' work. what, because he's prince he's special? he is just a man who makes art. . If you keep up this complaining, he won't even do this next time.
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He should give all his money to me.  All you others say Hell Yea!!  | |
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Red said: Having worked in the entertainmentindustry for years, charging $ for meet & greets is common practice both with Sporting and Concert events; however in most cases it is associated with charity. In this case, Prince is the charity - sad but true.
Had he been smarter, he would have tied the meet and greet into radio contests in exchange for airplay, which might have put him on the map again - but as we know, the man has no concept whatsoever of promotion. And, if he's really in dire straights for $, he could have played the same game the Rolling Stones did last year by offering a $50 on-line raffle to the world whereby one lucky winner and guest got to spend an evening backstage. Over $250 million was garnered by that play alone, on top of ticket sales and merchandise. Can U imagine? Mind boggling isn't it. Clever though. I love the man's music and try to separate his being from his craft - but he is one of the biggest hypocrites on the planet. What goes around comes around and his Karma bank is bleeding red. I wouldn't be surprised that with all the chatter going on over this, he doesn't quickly throw up a charity link this week to counteract the noise. talkin sense , talkin sense ! | |
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madhouseman said: am I missing something? Prince is actually making himself available to meet the few people who love his music, and because he is charging money, some people are bitching? WTF. He isn't signed with a major label so he has to do something to keep up the extravegant life and keep releasing new CDs that don't seem to sell. Obviously, there are those out there who want to shake the man's hand and tell him how he has affected them since it is sold out. Personally, for a shy recluse, it sounds like he is coming a long way. I can't imagine the Prince of 84-86 doing something like this. Can you?
If you don't want to pay the money, don't do it. If you do, have a blast. Stop bitching about this. It is his right to do it, and there are alot of fans (thats right, I said fans) that want to be able to meet him and this is the first time he has opened his door to something like this. If you keep up this complaining, he won't even do this next time. your right the prince from 84-86 wouldnt hav done this cos back then he didnt need the $$$. lets get this straight prince through greed broke away from his record company, so he was earning more, i dont actually disagree with him doing this,but he's fucked it up ! he is solely responsible for the fact his fanbase may be as low as 100.000 people. he continually fucks up. the way to make money is... release great albums and dvds promote them through tours and promotional deals respect your fan base (2 many fans unhappy with npgmc) the way to fuck it up ... dont have a record / promotion deal release instrumental albums, no 1 will buy except hardcore fans. take your fanbase totally for granted (2 many fans unhappy with npgmc) prince has turned the fans off in droves, i still love the live gigs and boy can he play guitar ! but being a fan is hard work fortuneatly i aint afraid of hard work so i'll carry on regardless.i know fans of prince for the last 20 years who are just fed up with all the shit that goes with being a fan.the only thing people (outside of hardcore fans) remember him for is his name change carry on! that is sad, but he seems to be on the way to being completely forgotten how can a musical genius expect to make money from instrumental albums and a fan base of 100.000 ? the wee fellow has lost the plot !!! npgmc from what i read is not all its cracked up to be too many fans feel unhappy after they join. i would love to see prince recover the glory days when he genuinely could do no wrong, but i cant see it . | |
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imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said: madhouseman said: am I missing something? Prince is actually making himself available to meet the few people who love his music
uh uh...the few fans that have an extra 1000 lying about. what about the fans that have been with him for 2o years and would not be able to afford it. do they not deserve the same meet and greet? OMG, that is so freakin' funny. (said in whining voice) "I'd like a nice car but I can't pay for it, so no one should be able to have a nice car." hahahaha. I bet there are fans out there who can't afford every CD he's made. Don't they deserve the same CDs that Richie Rich can afford? Maybe he should make them available to everyone for free because not everyone has access to them. It's called capitalism, baby. Free market. Obviously, there are enough people who disagree with you to make this a money making venture for Prince. PLEASE! He isn't signed with a major label so he has to do something to keep up the extravegant life and keep releasing new CDs that don't seem to sell.
there are plenty of artists not signed to major labels and running their careers as DIY artists. ani difranco, natalie merchant are just a couple. yes, prince has an extravagant lifestyle...that his fans helped to GIVE him. the thanks is this...well, thanks but no thanks. i'm not saying he owes anybody anything but, shit, either meet them or don't meet them. there should be no money involved. I don't think we GAVE him anything. He affords his lifestyle based on what he has sold and delivered for us. We've bought his products and it has (usually!) been a fair trade. I don't think we've GIVEN him anything that he hasn't earned. It's a good thing you are not saying that he owes anyone anything because that is one of the few things that you've gotten right here. Obviously, there are those out there who want to shake the man's hand and tell him how he has affected them since it is sold out.
yes, there are. so they should have to pay prince just to tell him "thank you (fill in album name here) meant so much to me. it changed my life". are you even fo real? most artists would be thrilled to meet anyone who tells them they love that artists' work. what, because he's prince he's special? he is just a man who makes art. Why do you hope that other fans can't meet the man? Just because you can't, or choose not to, why does that disqualify others who wish to do the meet-and-greet. Why do some people get all bent out of shape about the way others spend THEIR money? If someone wants to work overtime for a few days (or weeks, or even months) to pay for their dream of meeting the man, I think it is great. Personally, I wouldn't do it, but more power to those who want to take THEIR hard earned money, and hand it to him for a few minutes of his time. This really isn't your call now is it? Thats right. It isn't. . If you keep up this complaining, he won't even do this next time.
we can only hope... "We can only hope?" Get over the fact that someone else might think it is a bargain. No one is telling you what to do when it comes to YOUR money. Where do you get off telling someone else what to do with theirs? That is pretty damn arrogant. Get a hobby, find a girlfriend, read a book with no pictures, do something productive. Trying to dictate how others spend their money isn't really your business. To (sort of) quote RISKY BUSINESS. "You should never f*ck with another man's livelyhood" The expanded version of my book PRINCE and The Purple Rain Era Studio Sessions 1983-1984 was released in November 2018. (www.amazon.com/gp/product/1538114623/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i0) or www.facebook.com/groups/1...104195943/ | |
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madhouseman said: imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said: madhouseman said: am I missing something? Prince is actually making himself available to meet the few people who love his music
uh uh...the few fans that have an extra 1000 lying about. what about the fans that have been with him for 2o years and would not be able to afford it. do they not deserve the same meet and greet? OMG, that is so freakin' funny. (said in whining voice) "I'd like a nice car but I can't pay for it, so no one should be able to have a nice car." hahahaha. I bet there are fans out there who can't afford every CD he's made. Don't they deserve the same CDs that Richie Rich can afford? Maybe he should make them available to everyone for free because not everyone has access to them. It's called capitalism, baby. Free market. Obviously, there are enough people who disagree with you to make this a money making venture for Prince. PLEASE! He isn't signed with a major label so he has to do something to keep up the extravegant life and keep releasing new CDs that don't seem to sell.
there are plenty of artists not signed to major labels and running their careers as DIY artists. ani difranco, natalie merchant are just a couple. yes, prince has an extravagant lifestyle...that his fans helped to GIVE him. the thanks is this...well, thanks but no thanks. i'm not saying he owes anybody anything but, shit, either meet them or don't meet them. there should be no money involved. I don't think we GAVE him anything. He affords his lifestyle based on what he has sold and delivered for us. We've bought his products and it has (usually!) been a fair trade. I don't think we've GIVEN him anything that he hasn't earned. It's a good thing you are not saying that he owes anyone anything because that is one of the few things that you've gotten right here. Obviously, there are those out there who want to shake the man's hand and tell him how he has affected them since it is sold out.
yes, there are. so they should have to pay prince just to tell him "thank you (fill in album name here) meant so much to me. it changed my life". are you even fo real? most artists would be thrilled to meet anyone who tells them they love that artists' work. what, because he's prince he's special? he is just a man who makes art. Why do you hope that other fans can't meet the man? Just because you can't, or choose not to, why does that disqualify others who wish to do the meet-and-greet. Why do some people get all bent out of shape about the way others spend THEIR money? If someone wants to work overtime for a few days (or weeks, or even months) to pay for their dream of meeting the man, I think it is great. Personally, I wouldn't do it, but more power to those who want to take THEIR hard earned money, and hand it to him for a few minutes of his time. This really isn't your call now is it? Thats right. It isn't. . If you keep up this complaining, he won't even do this next time.
we can only hope... "We can only hope?" Get over the fact that someone else might think it is a bargain. No one is telling you what to do when it comes to YOUR money. Where do you get off telling someone else what to do with theirs? That is pretty damn arrogant. Get a hobby, find a girlfriend, read a book with no pictures, do something productive. Trying to dictate how others spend their money isn't really your business. To (sort of) quote RISKY BUSINESS. "You should never f*ck with another man's livelyhood" dag...you mean they actually have books without pictures? 
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imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said: dag...you mean they actually have books without pictures?
...maybe prince and i will read Karl Marx: Capital Volume 1 together...[/quote] ___ I can't imagine seeing him thumbing thru a copy of the Communist Mannifesto, but now that you do bring it up, your idea does sound a little like Socialism. Wasn't it Fredrick Engels who wrote: "Side by side with the antagonisms of the feudal nobility and the burghers, who claimed to represent all the rest of society, was the general antagonism of exploiters and exploited, of rich idlers and poor workers." Sounds like your idea of Prince (the rich, nobility-guess that is why he is called Prince) being requested to give away what he can earn money with because you (in your own mind representing "society") don't think it is fair to those who can't afford it (the exploited, or the poor workers). Pretty basic definition for disaster as most students of history would tell you. The expanded version of my book PRINCE and The Purple Rain Era Studio Sessions 1983-1984 was released in November 2018. (www.amazon.com/gp/product/1538114623/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i0) or www.facebook.com/groups/1...104195943/ | |
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madhouseman said: imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said: dag...you mean they actually have books without pictures?
...maybe prince and i will read Karl Marx: Capital Volume 1 together... ___ I can't imagine seeing him thumbing thru a copy of the Communist Mannifesto, but now that you do bring it up, your idea does sound a little like Socialism. Wasn't it Fredrick Engels who wrote: "Side by side with the antagonisms of the feudal nobility and the burghers, who claimed to represent all the rest of society, was the general antagonism of exploiters and exploited, of rich idlers and poor workers." Sounds like your idea of Prince (the rich, nobility-guess that is why he is called Prince) being requested to give away what he can earn money with because you (in your own mind representing "society") don't think it is fair to those who can't afford it (the exploited, or the poor workers). Pretty basic definition for disaster as most students of history would tell you. like i've said before, i don't have a problem with the concept. i have a problem with the man who has always spoken against this concept yet now giving way to cashing in on it. Prince always bitches and moans about warner bros. making money off of his work, right? well, prince is simply making money off of others labor this time. its not the same as making a cd and charging for it. that is simply trade. this, making money off of saying hello to some people who have already purchased your product, is a new step down. | |
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he's just a guy tryin to pay the bills i guess | |
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madhouseman said: am I missing something? Prince is actually making himself available to meet the few people who love his music, and because he is charging money, some people are bitching? WTF. He isn't signed with a major label so he has to do something to keep up the extravegant life and keep releasing new CDs that don't seem to sell. Obviously, there are those out there who want to shake the man's hand and tell him how he has affected them since it is sold out. Personally, for a shy recluse, it sounds like he is coming a long way. I can't imagine the Prince of 84-86 doing something like this. Can you?
If you don't want to pay the money, don't do it. If you do, have a blast. Stop bitching about this. It is his right to do it, and there are alot of fans (thats right, I said fans) that want to be able to meet him and this is the first time he has opened his door to something like this. If you keep up this complaining, he won't even do this next time. We can bitch about anything we want. And sorry,but it seems morally wrong to charge people money to "meet" you. Charging for a performance,yes..charging for an album,yes..charging for a book,yes...BUT charging people ANY amount of money,I don't care if its 10 bucks,for the HONOR of meeting you..DISGUSTING!! Its not about whether someone can afford it or not,its just wrong! And you know if anybody else did this,you would be looking at them like they're out of their minds,but if P does it,we can't criticize it. I don't really think he's really hurting for money,he ain't REALLY struggling..my parents & grandparents struggled,sometimes working 2 jobs and still never made as much as money as P. He's probably going to give the money to the JWS or something,anyway. I DON'T WANT TO BE NORMAL,because normal is part of the status quo,which I don't want to be a part of- Tori Amos | |
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Personally, I think any1 charging u 2 meet them or 2 sign a autograph 4 u is wrong. | |
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gypsyfire said: madhouseman said: am I missing something? Prince is actually making himself available to meet the few people who love his music, and because he is charging money, some people are bitching? WTF. He isn't signed with a major label so he has to do something to keep up the extravegant life and keep releasing new CDs that don't seem to sell. Obviously, there are those out there who want to shake the man's hand and tell him how he has affected them since it is sold out. Personally, for a shy recluse, it sounds like he is coming a long way. I can't imagine the Prince of 84-86 doing something like this. Can you?
If you don't want to pay the money, don't do it. If you do, have a blast. Stop bitching about this. It is his right to do it, and there are alot of fans (thats right, I said fans) that want to be able to meet him and this is the first time he has opened his door to something like this. If you keep up this complaining, he won't even do this next time. We can bitch about anything we want. And sorry,but it seems morally wrong to charge people money to "meet" you. Charging for a performance,yes..charging for an album,yes..charging for a book,yes...BUT charging people ANY amount of money,I don't care if its 10 bucks,for the HONOR of meeting you..DISGUSTING!! Its not about whether someone can afford it or not,its just wrong! And you know if anybody else did this,you would be looking at them like they're out of their minds,but if P does it,we can't criticize it. I don't really think he's really hurting for money,he ain't REALLY struggling..my parents & grandparents struggled,sometimes working 2 jobs and still never made as much as money as P. He's probably going to give the money to the JWS or something,anyway. I don't know if your note is serious or part of a joke that I don't quite get. I'll assume you were serious and discuss it logically and not emotionally. If it was meant to be a joke, then congrats, it is very funny and really shows how goofy that side of the argument is. If you were serious, you should probably re-evaluate the situation slightly. Other people do charge to meet them. Politicians do it all the time. Every month out here in Los Angeles, celebrities gather to sign autographs at conventions. I met Tracy Lords at one. I didn't pay to get her autograph, but I did pay to get into the event and had a blast. Playboy has been doing it for years with their Glamourcon (now in their 33rd gathering). In fact, I met Apollonia there where she was signing autographs for... you got it, cash. None of the people there thought anything odd about it. In fact, many of the fans loved the chance to finally meet someone they've only known thru movies, TV or radio. Why would you want to stomp on someone's dream? That is a philosophy I don't think I'll ever get. Just because you don't think Prince is struggling doesn't mean that he wouldn't like making a few bucks. Are you going to dictate what he can make, just because you don't THINK that he needs it? Again, arogant of you, isn't it? Morally wrong? Remind me where in the Bible (by definition the source of "moral" judgements) it says that this is "morally" wrong. Finally, what business is it of yours if Prince gives his money to JWS? Isn't it HIS money once he has earned it? If he gives to the democratic or republican party, or the green party or even the Catholic church, it shouldn't matter to you, because it is HIS money. Where do people get off telling someone what they can and can't do with their money. Whether it is a fan coughing up the $1000 to meet him or Prince spending that money the way he wishes. It's their business and their money. How much more simple can it be said... What makes you think you have a right to tell others what to do with their money? Obviously there are more than a few fans that hope you stop bitching about it because the tickets to meet him have sold out and that means that there are others who want to do this on the next round. Maybe you'll think of them in the future instead of trying to steal their dream of meeting up with Prince, even for a minute or two. The expanded version of my book PRINCE and The Purple Rain Era Studio Sessions 1983-1984 was released in November 2018. (www.amazon.com/gp/product/1538114623/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i0) or www.facebook.com/groups/1...104195943/ | |
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I think it's freakin' "rape and pillage"
Man, my dad been a fan since 1999,the album, and i grew up listen 2 prince b4 i learned how 2 speak!! and now he's gonna charge good loyal fams just2 say "Hi!" ? 
but he hasn't bothered 2 say whether or not he's coming 2 the us or uk, so fams there have 2 travel half-way around the world just for him. cheapo prince just needs the money 4 1 thing, and 1 thing only... 
or i guess he's just bored and tours for the hell of it.  ignorance isnt bliss its....its......its.......a another bit word....... | |
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madhouseman said: gypsyfire said: madhouseman said: am I missing something? Prince is actually making himself available to meet the few people who love his music, and because he is charging money, some people are bitching? WTF. He isn't signed with a major label so he has to do something to keep up the extravegant life and keep releasing new CDs that don't seem to sell. Obviously, there are those out there who want to shake the man's hand and tell him how he has affected them since it is sold out. Personally, for a shy recluse, it sounds like he is coming a long way. I can't imagine the Prince of 84-86 doing something like this. Can you?
If you don't want to pay the money, don't do it. If you do, have a blast. Stop bitching about this. It is his right to do it, and there are alot of fans (thats right, I said fans) that want to be able to meet him and this is the first time he has opened his door to something like this. If you keep up this complaining, he won't even do this next time. We can bitch about anything we want. And sorry,but it seems morally wrong to charge people money to "meet" you. Charging for a performance,yes..charging for an album,yes..charging for a book,yes...BUT charging people ANY amount of money,I don't care if its 10 bucks,for the HONOR of meeting you..DISGUSTING!! Its not about whether someone can afford it or not,its just wrong! And you know if anybody else did this,you would be looking at them like they're out of their minds,but if P does it,we can't criticize it. I don't really think he's really hurting for money,he ain't REALLY struggling..my parents & grandparents struggled,sometimes working 2 jobs and still never made as much as money as P. He's probably going to give the money to the JWS or something,anyway. I don't know if your note is serious or part of a joke that I don't quite get. I'll assume you were serious and discuss it logically and not emotionally. If it was meant to be a joke, then congrats, it is very funny and really shows how goofy that side of the argument is. If you were serious, you should probably re-evaluate the situation slightly. Other people do charge to meet them. Politicians do it all the time. Every month out here in Los Angeles, celebrities gather to sign autographs at conventions. I met Tracy Lords at one. I didn't pay to get her autograph, but I did pay to get into the event and had a blast. Playboy has been doing it for years with their Glamourcon (now in their 33rd gathering). In fact, I met Apollonia there where she was signing autographs for... you got it, cash. None of the people there thought anything odd about it. In fact, many of the fans loved the chance to finally meet someone they've only known thru movies, TV or radio. Why would you want to stomp on someone's dream? That is a philosophy I don't think I'll ever get. Just because you don't think Prince is struggling doesn't mean that he wouldn't like making a few bucks. Are you going to dictate what he can make, just because you don't THINK that he needs it? Again, arogant of you, isn't it? Morally wrong? Remind me where in the Bible (by definition the source of "moral" judgements) it says that this is "morally" wrong. Finally, what business is it of yours if Prince gives his money to JWS? Isn't it HIS money once he has earned it? If he gives to the democratic or republican party, or the green party or even the Catholic church, it shouldn't matter to you, because it is HIS money. Where do people get off telling someone what they can and can't do with their money. Whether it is a fan coughing up the $1000 to meet him or Prince spending that money the way he wishes. It's their business and their money. How much more simple can it be said... What makes you think you have a right to tell others what to do with their money? Obviously there are more than a few fans that hope you stop bitching about it because the tickets to meet him have sold out and that means that there are others who want to do this on the next round. Maybe you'll think of them in the future instead of trying to steal their dream of meeting up with Prince, even for a minute or two. but still: it is uncool | |
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why is it uncool?
Before this tour-chance to meet face-to-face with Prince: slim to no chance This tour: Guarenteed opportunity If I had to choose between the two, I'd pick the second senario. Why would it be cooler for him to continue not meeting his fans, regardless of the price? Think this thing thru. There are people who are going to be very happy to meet the man. If he opened the door to everyone who wanted to meet him, he'd never get anything done. What he has done is to make a face-to-face meeting available to those who want it bad enough. Personally, it isn't worth it to me. I could care less, but obviously everyone who is slapping down the cash to meet him thinks it is a cool thing. Uncool? hahahahaha. "Your honor, the suspect is being uncool." hahahaha. I think this is a good trend which could open the doors to more and more meetings with the fans and more and more influence from us. What is the problem with that? Why does this piss so many people off? Can you not step back and recognize that there are fans out there who obviously want this to happen? If you don't want to, step aside, that's fine, but don't muddy the waters for those who happily pay for the dream. It's not your money! The expanded version of my book PRINCE and The Purple Rain Era Studio Sessions 1983-1984 was released in November 2018. (www.amazon.com/gp/product/1538114623/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i0) or www.facebook.com/groups/1...104195943/ | |
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madhouseman said: Why does this piss so many people off...It's not your money!
it seems you are missing the point of most people. we've all made our opinions known as to whether it is worth it or not. that is a personal decision which can neither be right or wrong. the issue most are addressing is Prince's hypocrisy. he has stated time and time again that "money and art don't mix" yet he is doing a damn fine job of mixing it. i'm not talking about charging for a cd. i've said this before: it's about charging the people who have ALREADY supported you (both, artistically and financially) just for saying hello to them. so, i have to ask, does he really care to meet anyone or does he only care to get the money from them? if he truly cared to meet them (his supporters) he would offer the meet and greet to all. You mention that this opportunity has rarely presented itself...well, why do you think that is? is it because he's never been able to organize it? is it because the thought of meeting his fans never occurred to him? no. its because he's never really cared to meet them. suddenly, he cares to meet them...and it just happens to cost 675.00 us dollars. again, madhouseman, its not about the money. its the principle behind the whole event. | |
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imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said: madhouseman said: Why does this piss so many people off...It's not your money!
it seems you are missing the point of most people. we've all made our opinions known as to whether it is worth it or not. that is a personal decision which can neither be right or wrong. the issue most are addressing is Prince's hypocrisy. he has stated time and time again that "money and art don't mix" yet he is doing a damn fine job of mixing it. What does art have to do with meeting anybody? | |
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FIFI said: imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said: madhouseman said: Why does this piss so many people off...It's not your money!
it seems you are missing the point of most people. we've all made our opinions known as to whether it is worth it or not. that is a personal decision which can neither be right or wrong. the issue most are addressing is Prince's hypocrisy. he has stated time and time again that "money and art don't mix" yet he is doing a damn fine job of mixing it. What does art have to do with meeting anybody? do you consider prince's work to be art? so then, do you consider prince to be an artist? well, in regards to warner bros., he considered them to be parasites and moneyminders because they were taking money from him simpky by being his record company. well, prince is now taking money from his fans simply for being prince. simply for saying hi. there seems to be a buttload of contradiction there. unfortunately, many in his cult just can't see it... | |
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I hear a lot of arguments for and against but has anybody on the org actually paid the $1000 or whatever to meet Prince? If so , why don't they come out of the woodwork and explain to everybody here why they think it is a reasonable price to pay.
If no orgers have bought the tix then I assume they have been sold to rich non-fans who just want to tell everyone that they met a celeb.Or corporate tickets for businessmen to impress big clients. I just wonder what type of person Prince is going to meet. Actual admirers of his music and art or just a bunch of clueless idiots with too much money. | |
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Supernova said: imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said: personally, i think those who defend this course of action are the ones who can be termed 'crack fiends'.
I don't think anyone in this thread is defending it, as much as giving the reality of options since meeting him is not a requirement to see the guy play his gigs. If someone pays that much to meet and greet Prince, there's a good chance they're insane and possibly have that dealer/crack fiend relationship that Tricky is talking about, so his analogy is dead-on. That addiction has manifest itself in many ways that some fans reveal without knowing it. This is not to say that some of those who won't pay it aren't insane (for other reasons) either. It's silly and outrageous, but is it worth losing one's mind over something that is not required? It's not as if the IRS contacted you and told you you owe $900.00 in unpaid taxes.  insert applause HERE    I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it | |
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