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PrintableMuffy said: Prince just needs Muffy Sex and he'd Forget bout being 45. He could even wear a Costume .
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Supernova said: I'm not concerned with Prince having another monster hit, but at the same time I've learned to never say "never" when it comes to the music industry...and a lot of other things.
But the fans here who seem to think that a "hit" only takes good material - or more precisely what they deem good material, are sadly mistaken. The music business defies that very "logic" year after year when mediocre recordings are released that becomes huge hits. There are also many examples of great material that never registers on the pop charts. Some folks here act as if the friggin pop charts validate them and their musical tastes. It's insecurity. There's nothing wrong with you wanting your favorite recording artist to be successful in the mainstream. I think that's human nature. But keep things in perspective: being supported by a major label is part of the battle, half of the battle. Independents don't have the sort of monetary muscle to be played on payola radio, i.e. mainstream radio with any sort of consistency. And it's very rare when an album or single gets little to no airplay while achieving platinum status. Now, why in God's name would anyone want to see Prince's name on the charts alongside 50 Cent and others of his ilk if the music might be compromised? If people REALLY think "good music" is all it takes for a hit they need to look into Music Business 101 and be ready for a rude awakening. Brilliantly stated. "That...magic, the start of something revolutionary-the Minneapolis Sound, we should cherish it and not punish prince for not being able to replicate it."-Dreamshaman32 | |
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Indeed. TMBGITW came outta nowhere, too us all by surprise and somehow got #1 in the UK charts. And let's be honest... it wasn't very good. There's no predicting the fickle 12-25 year olds who buy all the singles  | |
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papabeat said: lastdecember said: ...but lets face it, Spingsteen as good as he is still has the loyal following he always had because he really never changed his sound or direction.
Spoken like somebody that's never listened to Springsteen. Each album is a unique and distinct vision, filled with exquisite musicianship. He has a loyal following because those fans know they can consistently expect an excellent album with each release. Check his track record - there's not an New Power Soul in the bunch. --- But it is the same style of music on all his CDs. Bruce never did a radical change in style the way Prince has. You are going to lose fans when you change your style of music. | |
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lastdecember said: Well just when I thought everyone would stop this "if prince did this, he'd have a hit" talk, I read more of it. Now the new one is that if he would release tracks out of the Vault, stuff from the 80's that never made it, this would be a huge success. I got NEWS for everyone, it wouldnt be a success. It would still sell the usual 100,000 copies maybe more, just deal with it already. It doesnt matter if he releases the vault stuff from PR+ period, and if critics give him glwing reviews. He has gotten mostly favorable reviews for his last few releases and that hasnt help get any "new" fans or "chart success". So just accept the fact already that PRINCE will never have that "hit" again its not going to happen, sure maybe he will have a more popular release but dont expect Gold or platnum success on the charts anymore, Prince is 45 not 25, things that mattered to him then dont matter now, people change and grow up. Sure its cool to hold on to the memories of the past but u cant let the past dictate the future, or else U will just spend the days complaining about "why cant he just or why cant he release", lets face it as usual He is gonna do what he wants to, accept it or not.
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lastdecember said: Its not a question of whether he wants a hit or not. To have a hit "in these" days Prince would have to do some lame RB neptunes produced crap with a Rapper guesting on it. Is that what we want to be PRINCE's big comeback.
He did that for years with Tony M and Kirky J. You are not my "friend" because you threaten my security. | |
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Milty said: Tom jones is a little different to Prince. OK a lot different. he's an entertainer that pulls all the silly smiles for the girls and shit. so what.
he did that for years too. You are not my "friend" because you threaten my security. | |
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LaMont said: lovebizzare said:  the reason why people who have been around as long as (or longer than) prince are still 'commercial" is because they've nevre chnaged their style. They're music is in the same style/genre of what they were doing when they first made it. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
They also aren't as anti-social as Prince is. that's why michale, madonna, bruce, and maybe tom jones (  ) are still commercial today.
so, that being said, will prince ever be commercial again? highly doubt it. an dI'm sure he's just fine with that. Being commercial is only important for making money; not art OK so all prince's 80's work was fro money, not art. Get a clue lamont. You are not my "friend" because you threaten my security. | |
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Supernova said: If people REALLY think "good music" is all it takes for a hit they need to look into Music Business 101 and be ready for a rude awakening. in general that's very true, but when it comes to prince... I think most of his hits are also very good songs. You are not my "friend" because you threaten my security. | |
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laurarichardson said: papabeat said: lastdecember said: ...but lets face it, Spingsteen as good as he is still has the loyal following he always had because he really never changed his sound or direction.
Spoken like somebody that's never listened to Springsteen. Each album is a unique and distinct vision, filled with exquisite musicianship. He has a loyal following because those fans know they can consistently expect an excellent album with each release. Check his track record - there's not an New Power Soul in the bunch. --- But it is the same style of music on all his CDs. Bruce never did a radical change in style the way Prince has. You are going to lose fans when you change your style of music. First, it is not the same style of music. If it were, he wouldn't have the fan base he does. He stumbled in the early 90's by trying to replicate his E Street sound with different musicians. But other than that, he follows his own muse. Listen to his first album in 1972 and then The Rising and tell me his style hasn't changed. Second, if you are going to lose fans when you change your style of music, wouldn't that hold that on SOTT, Prince lost fans with each song? They were all different styles of music. It's not the style of music that's the problem, it's the quality. Over a career, it's the consistency of that quality that counts. Live, both Prince and Bruce are popular because the consistency of their concerts. On record, however, Prince's fan base has dwindled in part because of the market environment, and in part because of his distribution/publicity machine, and also, unfortunately, because of the inconsistency in quality of some of his albums. | |
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Supernova said: I'm not concerned with Prince having another monster hit, but at the same time I've learned to never say "never" when it comes to the music industry...and a lot of other things.
But the fans here who seem to think that a "hit" only takes good material - or more precisely what they deem good material, are sadly mistaken. The music business defies that very "logic" year after year when mediocre recordings are released that becomes huge hits. There are also many examples of great material that never registers on the pop charts. Some folks here act as if the friggin pop charts validate them and their musical tastes. It's insecurity... Now, why in God's name would anyone want to see Prince's name on the charts alongside 50 Cent and others of his ilk if the music might be compromised? If people REALLY think "good music" is all it takes for a hit they need to look into Music Business 101 and be ready for a rude awakening. PEACE to Supernova ! People just don't understand do they ? |
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Hit - shmit.
He won't release the vault trax anyhow. Too much sexual inuendo and profanity. | |
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imho it's the song that matters. If it's a hit, that's a bonus (or a hinderance I guess, depending on your point of view). --------
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