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Thread started 09/03/03 2:23pm

timur

Interview Carlos Santana (Prince mention)

In a german newspaper is an interview with Carlos Santana.I give my best to translate it.
A question is: How is your relationship to musicians like Micheal Jackson and Prince?

"i respect both,but in the first line they are performer,like Sammy Davis.In the second line they are musicians.They danced and that is definitly a kind of art.I don`t wanna make it bad, but i prefer to listen to John Coltrane than M.J. and Prince.

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Wie ist Ihre Beziehung zu anderen Musikern wie Michael Jackson oder Prince?
Ich respektiere Michael Jackson oder Prince, aber sie sind Darsteller. Und eben erst in zweiter Linie Musiker. Wie zum Beispiel auch Sammy Davis. Sie tanzen, und das ist ganz klar eine Art der Kunst. Ich will das gar nicht schlecht machen. Aber ich höre mir lieber John Coltrane als Michael Jackson oder Prince an. Die Musik von John Coltrane eignet sich nicht zum Tanzen.

I think Carlos Santana was not watching the ona tour.
Prince is for me of course in the first line a musician.
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Reply #1 posted 09/03/03 2:27pm

Harlepolis

timur said:

I think Carlos Santana was not watching the ona tour.


I don't think he was paying attention at all(ONA or no ONA) I don't he's fimiliar with P's work other than the released stuff(as in released in the charts).
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Reply #2 posted 09/03/03 2:33pm

Marrk

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Harlepolis said:

timur said:

I think Carlos Santana was not watching the ona tour.


I don't think he was paying attention at all(ONA or no ONA) I don't he's fimiliar with P's work other than the released stuff(as in released in the charts).


Carlos played at one of the U.S. ONA tour didn't he?
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Reply #3 posted 09/03/03 2:45pm

Giovanni777

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If this is true, all I can say is, "HuH?!?" How can Carlos put MJ and P in the same category? Either he's completely ignorant of P's music, or he's afraid...like scared. Wouldn't U think he'd dig Prince's Santana stuff? From a guitar perspective, you'd also think that he'd dig Prince's bends and vibrato. He's obviously heard NONE of Prince's recent stuff... RC, XPectation, and N.E.W.S. Oh well... I guess expectations can result in disappointment... I just thought Carlos knew better.

Then again... this report may not be true (or accurate).

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Reply #4 posted 09/03/03 3:45pm

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I think he's saying that P and MJ are entertainers first and musicians second. He's not comparing the quality of their music. Coltrane did not have to sell himself on mtv. I think thats the comparison.
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Reply #5 posted 09/03/03 5:01pm

ConsciousConta
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I thought that Prince's Santana medley on the ONA tour sounded better than Santana himself!
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Reply #6 posted 09/03/03 8:56pm

whodknee

mynameisnotsusan said:

I think he's saying that P and MJ are entertainers first and musicians second. He's not comparing the quality of their music. Coltrane did not have to sell himself on mtv. I think thats the comparison.



That doesn't change the misconception. Prince is no longer an entertainer first. Not to mention MJ and Prince aren't in the same league. Hell, Prince and Santana aren't in the same league. MJ was never a good musician and was once the greatest famous entertainer of his time. Santana was a great guitarist. Prince was those things and more.
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Reply #7 posted 09/04/03 3:56am

softandwet

That doesn't change the misconception. Prince is no longer an entertainer first. Not to mention MJ and Prince aren't in the same league. Hell, Prince and Santana aren't in the same league. MJ was never a good musician and was once the greatest famous entertainer of his time. Santana was a great guitarist. Prince was those things and more.[/quote]



i have to say this is weird, considering how much prince has stated his love of santana, and vice versa from what ive heard. maybe he was taken out of context to make the story more dismissive, maybe not though!
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Reply #8 posted 09/04/03 4:07am

DavidEye

"Santana was a great guitarist"

Uh...he still IS a great guitarist wink
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Reply #9 posted 09/04/03 6:33am

7salles

I like Santana, but i think nowadays he is the entertainer and Prince the musican, huh! who is selling out these days? Supernatural sucks big tiem compared to TRC, poppy crap! At least Prince's pop was good,
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Reply #10 posted 09/04/03 6:37am

isi

7salles said:

I like Santana, but i think nowadays he is the entertainer and Prince the musican, huh! who is selling out these days? Supernatural sucks big tiem compared to TRC, poppy crap! At least Prince's pop was good,


good piont!That`s right!
One big different betwenn Prince and Santana.Prince can sing.A singer is often more entertainer,but he can also be agood musician
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Reply #11 posted 09/04/03 7:03am

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Good point definately... Carlos is POP now. This really still bothers me. Back when Prince first got signed to WB, he met Carlos... He's always admitted the influence: Back in the eighties, I remember P sayin he didn't know why people were always comparing him to Hendrix, 'cause he was more influenced by Carlos' style. Then, a few years back there was the thing about Carlos' Larry Graham rip. I just find it hard 2 believe that Carlos would be that way (or that blind/deaf).
The Santana stuff Prince does is beautiful. I heard one ONA concert where Prince started to play Stevie Wonder's "Another Star" on guitar, then went into the Santana thing... Slammin'
I also grew up listening to all and any live Santana I could find. Between Carlos, Hendrix, Jimmy Nolen, I found melody, electricity, and funk.
OK... I need 2 leave this alone now.
I just get frustrated with the lack of awareness sometimes.
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Reply #12 posted 09/04/03 7:14am

DavidEye

To those of you who love Santana's 70s music...


Four of his classic albums have been re-mastered with bonus tracks,and are due on September 30...

'Caravanserai'(1972)
'Love Devotion Surrender' with John McLaughlin (1973)
'Welcome'(1973)
'Moonflower' 2-CD set (1977)


I'm ecstatic!! smile
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Reply #13 posted 09/04/03 7:17am

hectim

What was that again?

Giovanni777 said:

Then, a few years back there was the thing about Carlos' Larry Graham rip.
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Reply #14 posted 09/04/03 7:43am

jsb23nc

Those are disappointing comments. You would think Carlos would know better than that. And, yes, he did perform the 3rd night in Washington on the ONA Tour.

Carlos could be accused of "selling out" btw and I think Prince was following his Supernatural model when he made Rave. Of course, it didn't quite work out as well for P.
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Reply #15 posted 09/04/03 3:21pm

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I can see where Carlos is coming from, but to write Prince down as a musician second to being a dancer is just an error. The dancing, and what not, is what makes his performances more exciting, but his music can stand on its own. The combination of his voice, his musicality, and his performance is what puts him on another level.
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Reply #16 posted 09/04/03 3:51pm

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Marrk said:

Carlos played at one of the U.S. ONA tour didn't he?

he joined Prince onstage during the third night of the ONA shows in D.C. in March. I was there.
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Reply #17 posted 09/05/03 1:33am

gainsbourg

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I can't believe Carlos said that...that is awful
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Reply #18 posted 09/05/03 10:40am

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Harlepolis said:

timur said:

I think Carlos Santana was not watching the ona tour.


I don't think he was paying attention at all(ONA or no ONA) I don't he's fimiliar with P's work other than the released stuff(as in released in the charts).


perhaps a language barrier or taken out of context? i don't know much about santana's relationship with mj, but as far as prince is concerned...santana has complimented prince on many occasions for his musicianship. and has complimented his guitar playing. they have both performed together on a few occasions. when prince has come to the bay area.
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Reply #19 posted 09/05/03 10:48am

kisscamille

DavidEye said:

To those of you who love Santana's 70s music...


Four of his classic albums have been re-mastered with bonus tracks,and are due on September 30...

'Caravanserai'(1972)
'Love Devotion Surrender' with John McLaughlin (1973)
'Welcome'(1973)
'Moonflower' 2-CD set (1977)


I'm ecstatic!! smile


Should be fantastic. I will definitely be buying these babies!
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