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Ice-T talks about Prince fans, and about selling your music online

In the latest edition of UK music monthly X-Ray magazine (August 2003, issue no. 7) is an interview with Ice-T in their "X-Rayed" section. Here's a relevant excerpt:

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Phillip Mlynar: What's the deal with your website ( http://www.IceT.com/ )? You're selling albums for $5?!

Ice-T: But that makes money. There's no couple of dollars going to the distributor, there's no fucking payola for radio or video, it's just the price that's going to the artist minus all the bullshit. And selling it direct like this, you're not having to search peer-to-peer sites and risk getting someone impound your computer.

Phillip Mlynar: That's the complete opposite view to much of the pop music industry.

Ice-T: Well, pop just means popular, and what's in this year will be out the next. Artists need to go for that core audience. Forget the pop element and build up a core base. You know, there are still huge Public Enemy and Prince fans out there that will get violent on you if you say something wrong about their music, and this is years on from their height of publicity.

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Now, all you Org folks try to look past the "dis" of Prince fans, and check out how much Ice-T asks for his albums at his website after cutting out the middle men.

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Reply #1 posted 07/31/03 12:04am

Natsume

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I love Ice T.
I mean, like, where is the sun?
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Reply #2 posted 07/31/03 12:09am

Chico319

Natsume said:

I love Ice T.



Co-Sign!!! nod clapping
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Reply #3 posted 07/31/03 12:16am

frankjotzo

Chico319 said:

Natsume said:

I love Ice T.



Co-Sign!!! nod clapping



Co-sign here too. Trouble is, Ice T hasn't made a good album since "OG", but who cares?
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Reply #4 posted 07/31/03 12:42am

bluelight

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IceT rulez ! wink
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Reply #5 posted 07/31/03 12:52am

Fhunkin

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Yeah, he's cool !!
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Reply #6 posted 07/31/03 1:07am

sinisterpentat
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So basically we're all Prince's bitches? That's what Ice is really trying to say.
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Reply #7 posted 07/31/03 1:14am

Natsume

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sinisterpentatonic said:

So basically we're all Prince's bitches? That's what Ice is really trying to say.

uhhh where?
I mean, like, where is the sun?
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Reply #8 posted 07/31/03 1:25am

sinisterpentat
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Natsume said:

sinisterpentatonic said:

So basically we're all Prince's bitches? That's what Ice is really trying to say.

uhhh where?


Artists need to go for that core audience. Forget the pop element and build up a core base.

eyepop
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Reply #9 posted 07/31/03 1:37am

javed

isn't the reason Prince charges as much as he does, especially for concert tix, is that he views himself as the baddest out there?. In fact didn't Prince say as much last year. Point is that as long as we keep paying for it he will keep charging as much. Lets face it a lot of us get that moment of insanity when there is something new and PRINCE related to buy and just buy it anyway.
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Reply #10 posted 07/31/03 2:58am

ian

Ice T is damn right! smile
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Reply #11 posted 07/31/03 7:30am

FunkMistress

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BVH said:


Ice-T: Well, pop just means popular, and what's in this year will be out the next. Artists need to go for that core audience. Forget the pop element and build up a core base. You know, there are still huge Public Enemy and Prince fans out there that will get violent on you if you say something wrong about their music, and this is years on from their height of publicity.

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Now, all you Org folks try to look past the "dis" of Prince fans, and check out how much Ice-T asks for his albums at his website after cutting out the middle men.


This didn't strike me as a dis at all. I took it as a characterization of a fiercely loyal fanbase, as in don't fuck with them. He's using it to justify going the same route as Prince, so it seemed positive to me.
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Reply #12 posted 07/31/03 9:04am

Rhondab

sinisterpentatonic said:

So basically we're all Prince's bitches? That's what Ice is really trying to say.



ok..you made me laugh...lol
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Reply #13 posted 07/31/03 9:05am

Sweeny79

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sinisterpentatonic said:

So basically we're all Prince's bitches? That's what Ice is really trying to say.



Well I didn't read that, but we are ain't we confuse lol
In spite of the cost of living, it's still popular.
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Reply #14 posted 07/31/03 9:08am

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Sweeny79 said:

sinisterpentatonic said:

So basically we're all Prince's bitches? That's what Ice is really trying to say.



Well I didn't read that, but we are ain't we confuse lol


Just ask CalhounSq, wherever she is. lol
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Reply #15 posted 07/31/03 9:13am

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BVH said:

You know, there are still huge Public Enemy and Prince fans out there that will get violent on you if you say something wrong about their music, and this is years on from their height of publicity.


Any of you Prince fans ever gotten violent over Prince? I haven't although at times I'd like to. wink
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Reply #16 posted 07/31/03 9:28am

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His re-make of Head was funny as fuck. The first Eminem.
All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #17 posted 07/31/03 9:34am

FunkMistress

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frankjotzo said:

Chico319 said:

Natsume said:

I love Ice T.



Co-Sign!!! nod clapping



Co-sign here too. Trouble is, Ice T hasn't made a good album since "OG", but who cares?


Please. Did you ever hear Body Count?
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Reply #18 posted 07/31/03 9:38am

teller

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Fuckin A, Ice-T. nod
Fear is the mind-killer.
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Reply #19 posted 07/31/03 9:50am

LittlePill

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I have to say this. I don't like Ice-T and I don't like rap, but I'm almost tempted to buy his new album off the website just to support him in what he's doing and that is telling the corporate money makers 'we don't need you, you need us'. Ice-T bow
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Reply #20 posted 07/31/03 10:14am

Nefertiti

It's not a dis in any way. You need to re-read it.

He said "Forget the pop element and build up a core base. You know, there are still huge Public Enemy and Prince fans out there that will get violent on you if you say something wrong about their music, and this is years on from their height of publicity."

Can you not understand that he's using PE and Prince as examples of artists who have a core fanbase, who aren't waiting for them to be in the pop element to continue buying their music and concert tickets?
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Reply #21 posted 07/31/03 10:19am

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2freaky4church1 said:

His re-make of Head was funny as fuck. The first Eminem.

It was hilarious lol
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Reply #22 posted 07/31/03 10:36am

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Ice-T the original pimp, playa, hustla
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omg I'll believe it when I see it omg
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Reply #23 posted 07/31/03 4:26pm

smokeverbs

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FunkMistress said:

frankjotzo said:

Chico319 said:

Natsume said:

I love Ice T.



Co-Sign!!! nod clapping



Co-sign here too. Trouble is, Ice T hasn't made a good album since "OG", but who cares?


Please. Did you ever hear Body Count?
cop machinegun


... or the follow-up to OG, "Home Invasion"???

Go Ice, you're still the man
Keep your headphones on.
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Reply #24 posted 07/31/03 4:29pm

EvilWhiteMale

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I've met Ice, he's pretty cool.
"You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." "

Al Pacino- Scarface
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Reply #25 posted 08/01/03 12:00pm

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BVH said:

In the latest edition of UK music monthly X-Ray magazine (August 2003, issue no. 7) is an interview with Ice-T in their "X-Rayed" section. Here's a relevant excerpt:

---

Phillip Mlynar: What's the deal with your website ( http://www.IceT.com/ )? You're selling albums for $5?!

Ice-T: But that makes money. There's no couple of dollars going to the distributor, there's no fucking payola for radio or video, it's just the price that's going to the artist minus all the bullshit. And selling it direct like this, you're not having to search peer-to-peer sites and risk getting someone impound your computer.

Phillip Mlynar: That's the complete opposite view to much of the pop music industry.

Ice-T: Well, pop just means popular, and what's in this year will be out the next. Artists need to go for that core audience. Forget the pop element and build up a core base. You know, there are still huge Public Enemy and Prince fans out there that will get violent on you if you say something wrong about their music, and this is years on from their height of publicity.

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Now, all you Org folks try to look past the "dis" of Prince fans, and check out how much Ice-T asks for his albums at his website after cutting out the middle men.

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BVH,

Maybe you need to re-read the article. Ice does not dis Prince. He is giving him props.
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Reply #26 posted 08/01/03 6:44pm

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Ice mentions things that I have said for years on this site .The record companies dictate to the public what is good and what is not.Artists like P.E.,Prince,Bowie,& others are trying to allow the music to be heard .

My hope is for Prince to be able to see the gold mine he sits upon and harvest it before it is too late.
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Reply #27 posted 08/01/03 11:43pm

Sdldawn

Hehe, Cant u see prince asking $5 for a brand new cd, containing material new and old unreleased...

Thats just straight up dreaming.


with Prince fixation on money and his old record label, he couldnt understand that level of thinking.
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Reply #28 posted 08/01/03 11:51pm

Sdldawn

Even if he did do that, he would feel like we owe him something.. he only has one instrumental for sale and he's already askin us to send him shit.

Just think, he isnt even on the brink of doing something that brilliant, and yet, he has one instrumental and an edit of a concert goin on sale, for which u had to pay to access that (a few days early) Its simply laughable compared to other artists setups.


Its the price u pay for something this unordinary. Prince is not ordinary, its obvoius, someone that creates this much chaotic disorder with a record label, then acts like a baby for signing for something he didnt know they could do (master recordings) This very person could be rolling in what he wants, but decides to sh*t on it like its a freakin toilet bowl. Yeah, he's great and he can fart some great music, but since when does he think this crap of a club and rediculous ideas of gaining masters is gonna hold water? The boy is dreamin and his ideas are presently sinking. I mean, The music club is such a great concept, and its almost a joke when compared to anothers work. to think, Prince feels u owe him something to be on his site, yet he yearns for the freedom of his music. Prince talks so much about freedom, yet he splurges for isolation, for his fans and himself.
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Reply #29 posted 08/02/03 9:02am

SefraNSue

Say what you will about Prince's past or present business dealings, but I respect him for actually walking the walk. A music club is a good idea, and although it doesn't guarantee huge exposure or sales, it does guarantee music and money, without giving a cut to the middle-man.
Michael never stopped!
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