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PrintableHere's the poem from the Lovesexy tour programme in full;
Time upon a once there was a boy named Camille Now this boy named Camille didn't know how 2 feel Sometimes he was lonely, sometimes he was sad but most times he just took 4 granted all the nice things that he had Some people said they loved him, but Camille said "Contempt! Winter, Spring, Summer or Fall, love is no good unless it's felt by all". So naive & terrifically in need, Camille started looking 4 answers. His paintbrush the questions, his canvas the arena, Camille set out 2 silence his critics. "No longer daring" - his enemies laughed "No longer glam, his funk is half-assed... one leg is much shorter than the other one is weak. His strokes are tepid, his colors are meek." So Camille found a new color. The color was black: strongest hue of them all. He painted a picture called Le Grind - hittin' so tall. And then Cindy C - THE vogue fantasy. Horns & vocals 2 die 4. Lollipops - in yours! Stroke after stroke callin' all others a joke. Superfunkycalifragisexi Camille rocked hard in a funky place Stuck his long funk in competition's face Tuesday came. Blue tuesday. His canvas full and lying on the table Camille mustered all the hate he was able. Hate 4 the ones who ever doubted his game. Hate 4 the ones who ever doubted his name. "Tis nobody funkier - let the Black Album fly" Spooky Electric was talking, Camille started 2 cry. Tricked. A fool he had been. In his lowest utmostest. He had allowed the dark side of him 2 create something evil. 2 Nigs United 4 West Compton. Camille & his ego. Bob George. Why? Spooky Electric must die. Die in the hearts of all who want love. Die in the hearts of men who want change. Die in the bodies of women who want babies that will grow up with a New Power Soul. Love Life, Lovesexy - the feeling u get when u fall in love, not with a girl or boy but with the heavens above Lovesexy - endorphin. Camille figured out what 2 feel. Glam Slam Escape - the Sexuality Real. Tonight we make love with only words. Girls first. This feeling's so good in every single way. God is alive! Let him touch u and he will quench every thirst. Let him touch u and an aura of peace will adorn u. God is alive! Let him touch u and your own Lovesexy will be born. Let him touch u, let him touch u and Heaven is yours. Welcome 2 the New Power Generation. . [This message was edited Mon Jun 30 13:16:16 PDT 2003 by BorisFishpaw] | |
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kmc said: Anji said: There are so many levels to both of these albums, the funk is deep, layered and sexy. Ironically, I don't find the funk as 'black' on The Black Album, as I do on Camille. Actually, I don't think there is a Prince album as funky as Camille. Maybe, that's why we miss him. Anyway, which do you think assembles as the most cohesive funk album by Prince?
Camille Album Anji, did this album come as close as a catalog number to being released by Prince? I don't recall actually hearing about the Camille album back in the day... I just know that I began hearing about the "Camille" character after the release of SOTT. I posted the above pix for reference. funky edit  | |
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Anji said: "Camille was the leader of a rock 'n' roll band
Boris, where's this writing from?
No one could mess with him, I mean no one could hang Camille could listen to your thang, then he'd play it triple time Camille's got changes that could scramble your mind Just like an egg, scramble your mind, just like an egg"  | |
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Hell naw!! Was camille an actual release or is that pic just doctored to look like one? [This message was edited Mon Jun 30 14:49:33 PDT 2003 by sinisterpentatonic] | |
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The Camille album WAS given a WB catalogue number
in November 1986 (though I've never heard what that number was though). It was pencilled into Warner's schedule for a January 1987 release. They even made a test pressing for a projected single from the album: Shockadelica backed with Housequake. The artwork for the album has never surfaced (if it was even ever completed). All we know is that it would have featured a crude drawing of a stick-man, with 'X's for eyes, representing 'Camille'. . | |
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This thread makes me wish so bad that this had been released! It is superfuckintight from note 1 to end note. 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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Anji said: Anji said: "Camille was the leader of a rock 'n' roll band
Boris, where's this writing from?
No one could mess with him, I mean no one could hang Camille could listen to your thang, then he'd play it triple time Camille's got changes that could scramble your mind Just like an egg, scramble your mind, just like an egg" These are lyrics to a poem (and possibly a song) that were supposed to be read by Cat's character in the original 1987 version of Graffiti Bridge. In this, Prince's character was called 'Camille Blue'. | |
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chestro18 said: By the way, in one of the books it states that Bob George was directed at his mangaer Bob Cavallo? and music critic Nelson George for saying Prince had lost it.
thanks. i thought it was about him too. its funny. the line about "why can't we just dance...and they say you were funky...kills me every time! | |
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Anji said: Xpertlover said: What's the tracklist for 'Camille' again?
01 Rebirth of the Flesh 4:48 02 Housequake 4:39 03 Strange Relationship 4:00 04 Feel U Up 6:29 05 Shockadelica 6:10 06 Good Love 5:10 07 If I Was Your Girlfriend 4:59 08 Rockhard in a Funky Place 4:30 (Timings courtesy of Boris). Scarlett Pussy,U Got The Look & Hot Thing r missing. they r Camille cuts also. www.riotcitywrestling.com
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Much love  Pochacco[/quote]It sounds like it would be. I'm not sure where the origina of that passage come from, it's in the liner notes to my Camille album. Boris knows, hopefully he'll clear it up.
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Camille album ??? org note time !!! |
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The Camille Album is by far the funkiest Prince album there is released or not. Each song hangs so tight and the Linn drum is programmed with that hard beat in every song. It also has that eerie organ in all the songs. I made myself a copy of the album along with all the other songs attributed to Camille. When ever I play it people always ask me when did this Prince album come out and I tell them it was only sent to those who know Prince's true funk. They get all pissed, but the looks on their faces when they hear the funk is priceless. The Black Album is strong, but it can't hang with Camille. That whole persona and time era is one that Prince missed out on by not releasing Camille. It would have made that 1986-87 time era even more legendary. __________________________________________________
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Camille wins easily
It is more balanced as an album and every song works, i especially like those dirty funkrock songs rotf and rhiafp. only good love feels a bit like a filler.. the Black album is not as coherent and especially side one seems to lack focus. side two is very good tho' I feel pretty, that's enough | |
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camille has an album??? i never heard of one  i only heard the black album. what am i missing? | |
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Joshy said: Scarlett Pussy,U Got The Look & Hot Thing r missing.
they r Camille cuts also. We're talking about the actual 'Camille' album Not tracks credited to Camille. The Camille album was completed in early November 1986. The idea was that the album would be released under the name 'Camille', and no-one would realise it was actually Prince until news spread via word of mouth and rumor. It even got as far as being given a catalogue number and release date by Warners. But soon after completing it Prince decided to expand it into a triple album called Crystal Ball, which would also include non-camille material. The original Camille album only included the following tracks (as has already been stated): side 1: 1. Rebirth Of The Flesh 2. Housequake 3. Strange Relationship 4. Feel U Up side 2 1. Shockadelica 2. Good Love 3. If I Was Your Girlfriend 4. Rockhard In A Funky Place U Got The Look wasn't recorded until the 21st of December '86. Hot Thing isn't a 'Camille' track, it was recorded shortly after Dream Factory was shelved in August '86. Scarlet Pussy is actually a track originally intended for Sheila E's uncompleted 4th Paisley Park album, and was recorded in January '88. . | |
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Harlequin said: camille has an album??? i never heard of one Harle, you are missing all of that funk. Camille is funk. Having said that, this thread had definitely renewed my appreciation of The Black Album. Damn, I can't believe I said that album sounded white yesterday. I mean, what the fuck?! I love the spoken intro on Le Grind where he actually introduces the original concept of the album, The Funk Bible, uh!
i only heard the black album. what am i missing? | |
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Boris you seem to know what you are talking about so list the final Crystal Ball tracklist. |
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muleFunk said: Boris you seem to know what you are talking about so list the final Crystal Ball tracklist.
The final Crystal Ball tracklist was... side 1: 1. Rebirth Of The Flesh 2. Play In The Sunshine 3. Housequake 4. The Ballad Of Dorothy Parker side 2: 1. It 2. Starfish & Coffee 3. Slow Love 4. Hot Thing side 3: 1. Crystal Ball 2. If I Was Your Girlfriend 3. Rockhard In A Funky Place side 4: 1. The Ball 2. Joy In Repetition 3. Strange Relationship 4. I Could Never Take The Place Of Your Man side 5: 1. Shockadelica 2. Good Love 3. Forever In My Life 4. Sign O' The Times side 6: 1. The Cross 2. Adore 3. It's Gonna Be A Beautiful Night . | |
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Boris, were there any official, alternate tracklistings for The Black Album? And do you know when the album's title changed from The Funk Bible?
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Anji said: Boris, were there any official, alternate tracklistings for The Black Album? And do you know when the album's title changed from The Funk Bible?
There were no other official alternate tracklistings for the Black Album. The album was assembled very quickly during October '87 when Prince was actually working on the original version of the Graffiti Bridge movie and the accompanying album. He dropped the title 'The Funk Bible' when he hit upon the idea of releasing the album in a completely black sleeve with no artist listing. The album is mainly made up of tracks that Prince recorded especially to play at Sheila E's birthday party on the 11th December '86. The newest track was 'When 2 R In Love', which was recorded as he was assembling the the album. Other tracks recorded at this time were 'U' and 'I Guess I'm Crazy', as well as several tracks intended for Graffiti Bridge. | |
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Boris, do you know what changes the Graffiti Bridge album went through from original conception to the finished article? I find it a wonderful collection of defiantly hopeful songs. As many have pointed it, it's almost like an excellent bootleg compilation of songs that fell through the cracks. Still feels like a classic album, nonetheless.
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Anji said: Harlequin said: camille has an album??? i never heard of one Harle, you are missing all of that funk. Camille is funk. Having said that, this thread had definitely renewed my appreciation of The Black Album. Damn, I can't believe I said that album sounded white yesterday. I mean, what the fuck?! I love the spoken intro on Le Grind where he actually introduces the original concept of the album, The Funk Bible, uh!
i only heard the black album. what am i missing?i still dont know what camille ablum u r talking about though | |
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I have a few questions regarding this setlist:
Anji said: Xpertlover said: What's the tracklist for 'Camille' again? 01 Rebirth of the Flesh 4:48
02 Housequake 4:39 Is this the version that appeared on SOTT? 03 Strange Relationship 4:00 Is this the version that appeared on SOTT? 04 Feel U Up 6:29 Is this the "Long Stroke" 05 Shockadelica 6:10 Same as the released 12" version? 06 Good Love 5:10 07 If I Was Your Girlfriend 4:59 Is this the version that appeared on SOTT? 08 Rockhard in a Funky Place 4:30 Same version as on the Black Album? (Timings courtesy of Boris). Another question: what are the other tracks recorded with the Camille voice? I know about Scarlett Pussy, U Got The Look and Love Or Money, but are there any other? RIP Prince: thank U 4 a funky Time... |
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01 Rebirth of the Flesh (unreleased)
02 Housequake (same as on SOTT) 03 Strange Relationship (same as on SOTT) 04 Feel U Up (same as the Long Stroke version) 05 Shockadelica (same as the 12" version) 06 Good Love (same as on the Bright Lights Big City soundtrack) 07 If I Was Your Girlfriend (same as on SOTT) 08 Rockhard in a Funky Place (same as on The Black Album) | |
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BorisFishpaw said: Here's the poem from the Lovesexy tour programme in full;
Time upon a once there was a boy named Camille Now this boy named Camille didn't know how 2 feel Sometimes he was lonely, sometimes he was sad but most times he just took 4 granted all the nice things that he had Some people said they loved him, but Camille said "Contempt! Winter, Spring, Summer or Fall, love is no good unless it's felt by all". So naive & terrifically in need, Camille started looking 4 answers. His paintbrush the questions, his canvas the arena, Camille set out 2 silence his critics. "No longer daring" - his enemies laughed "No longer glam, his funk is half-assed... one leg is much shorter than the other one is weak. His strokes are tepid, his colors are meek." So Camille found a new color. The color was black: strongest hue of them all. He painted a picture called Le Grind - hittin' so tall. And then Cindy C - THE vogue fantasy. Horns & vocals 2 die 4. Lollipops - in yours! Stroke after stroke callin' all others a joke. Superfunkycalifragisexi Camille rocked hard in a funky place Stuck his long funk in competition's face Tuesday came. Blue tuesday. His canvas full and lying on the table Camille mustered all the hate he was able. Hate 4 the ones who ever doubted his game. Hate 4 the ones who ever doubted his name. "Tis nobody funkier - let the Black Album fly" Spooky Electric was talking, Camille started 2 cry. Tricked. A fool he had been. In his lowest utmostest. He had allowed the dark side of him 2 create something evil. 2 Nigs United 4 West Compton. Camille & his ego. Bob George. Why? Spooky Electric must die. Die in the hearts of all who want love. Die in the hearts of men who want change. Die in the bodies of women who want babies that will grow up with a New Power Soul. Love Life, Lovesexy - the feeling u get when u fall in love, not with a girl or boy but with the heavens above Lovesexy - endorphin. Camille figured out what 2 feel. Glam Slam Escape - the Sexuality Real. Tonight we make love with only words. Girls first. This feeling's so good in every single way. God is alive! Let him touch u and he will quench every thirst. Let him touch u and an aura of peace will adorn u. God is alive! Let him touch u and your own Lovesexy will be born. Let him touch u, let him touch u and Heaven is yours. Welcome 2 the New Power Generation. . [This message was edited Mon Jun 30 13:16:16 PDT 2003 by BorisFishpaw] Thank you for posting this Very nice Mesage from the Happy Sunshine | |
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Another great thread, Anji. :applause:
I think Camille has that edge of funk over The Black Album, for some reason. It's quirkier and more playful, although The Black Album is more subversive. Both are funk masterpieces, but you know that I think 1999 takes the cake. | |
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I have to agree with Ted...
the funkiest album by Prince isn't either of those (even though they are fonky). The funkiest album by Prince is EXODUS. It is dripping with George Clinton type grooves. The expanded version of my book PRINCE and The Purple Rain Era Studio Sessions 1983-1984 was released in November 2018. (www.amazon.com/gp/product/1538114623/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i0) or www.facebook.com/groups/1...104195943/ | |
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