PhilG said:

tru

[This message was edited Thu May 22 19:16:16 PDT 2003 by korin]

The history part was not racist but the remark It ain't over, was. Prince has gotten so stupid in the last few years since he has been hanging around Larry.

If he alienated his white audience he wouldn't have enough money to feed himself and Mani.

He didn't mind getting rich off white folk back in the 80's.

What I don't understand, if he is so happy and at peace and loves his life with being with Mani and being JW like he claims, why the hell don't he just make music and appreciate people coming to see him and shut the hell up, and enjoy his numerous blessings that he has recieved with the help of God and his fans.

Personally, Iam not in that club to recieve history lessons and Iam not interested in Larry's religion.

Iam in this club because I think Prince is a fabulous musician, period.

lovebird said:

I received a Watchtower back in the late 80's. one of the articles was denouncing popular music, basically saying it was corrupting.How this affects prince, i'm not sure.

Or has the JW stance on 'Pop' music changed since then.?

As long as they get their cut from him, maybe they're not bothered.

Maybe the fact that he "don't date sisters" makes him a racist. But at the end of the day who gives a rats ass?

Eggs and Gammon, Poor Riannon. Kens Bad Wind!!
John Shuttleworth 1996

swiftyweb said:

He was engaged to Nona Gaye!



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[This message was edited Fri May 23 5:53:43 PDT 2003 by DavidEye]

DavidEye said:

I never said it, I was quoting. But I don't really care about the relationships thing. I only ever find out from the forums because I don't buy in to celebrity worshipping. I love his music but couldn't care less about his life. It's his business. I don't read gossip columns and only read the music stuff in uptown. Is Nona Gaye the daughter of Marvin? The name rings a bell.

swiftyweb said:

Yes,she is Marvin's daughter.In a recent issue of Essence magazine,she talks about her engagement to Prince.It seems that she is still bitter about the whole experience.

DavidEye said:

It seems that a lot of Prince's ex's are bitter. Maybe if her grandfather is still alive, he could shoot Prince for her.

VelvetSplash said:

racism cuts both ways. what's REALLY gross to see on this board is the backlash against white people who object to prince's lyrics.
you hear that shit from me against black people it'd be 'call the police she's with the KKK' but it comes from a black person against a white??? why, it's just fine. maybe the content of prince's lyrics ain't so bad but the attitude of those following him truly is at times

XxAxX said:

There's no backlash against white people who object to Prince's lyrics.

There's a backlash against the people who are being implicitly or explicitly racist in their posts.

XxAxX said:

No it's not fine. We're all idiots.
[This message was edited Fri May 23 9:20:11 PDT 2003 by whodknee]

DigitalLisa said:

Why should a whole generation (who weren't even born then) be held accountable 4 past atrocities that had absolutely NOTHING 2 do with them? It's like pointing a finger at a German baby and saying: 'When U grow up little one, Im gonna blame u 4 everything ur Grand-daddy did 2 my relations - because it's right 2 do so'

Im totally gob-smacked at the naiivity of your post, that's SUCH an arrogant attitude 2 take.

Let me play Devil's advocate here, If one of your ancestors had been a mass murderer, who brought untold pain and suffering 2 many innocent families and their loved ones would U be content with somebody labeling U as one? Would U be happy being held accountable 4 THEIR actions before U were even THOUGHT of - let alone concieved?

I dont think so...but if u DO agree in the affirmative, then all I can say is that u must have a very 'unique' outlook on life. I hope that isnt the case, and that u can clarify your posts in a more succint manner.

Drop the guilt trip - who are YOU 2 blame an ENTIRE generation anyway?

It is one thing 2 remember these atrocities, holding on2 them however is a completely different ball-park...

*did-somebody-mention-'power-over-people'?-edit*

VelvetSplash said:

Now of course...if you take it literally, somethign is wrong...by that sentence I meant it's not okay to talk about Hilter like what he did was okay. Cuz as I recall, it wasnt.
Look deeper in2 what I mean.

bananacologne said:

I already went over this... read above

Well - if u did, then that's great. Im really pleased 4 u.

If u realise that it takes a little time 2 spare some thought over how u are going 2 put your point across, then compose it, post it etc before anyone else posts further messages etc - then there isnt a problem - is there?

[b]*we're-all-just-one-big-happy-family-really-edit*[b/]

bananacologne said:

I Guess ...

we r all responsible 4 it by the way...that's why we still hate each other in alot of ways, cuz we think we have nothing to do with the things of the past, your past represents who u r, if u didn't have a past u wouldn't have a future silly
[This message was edited Fri May 23 13:20:21 PDT 2003 by DigitalLisa]

I dont hate u AT ALL Ms Lisa - I love u
We will just have 2 agree 2 disagree on this one methinx...
My best friend's friend was one Matthew Shepard,
trust me - I know about hate, and have seen the
devastation and the fallout from peoples actions first-hand.





*I-remember-Matt-and-James-Byrd-Jr-edit*

awww...I think I'm gonna cry :Cry:

I luv ya 2

...I guess all Im saying is that it's not WHAT we are saying..it's HOW things are being said.
It is also worth keeping 2 things in mind here that are often over-looked...

1) Sensitive subjects will soon turn up the heat - although I 4 one am glad that subjects such as these crop up in here - this is one of the things that seem 2 make the org pretty unique (hello Michael jackson.com)

2) Never 4get, that how U read something ('U' meaning anyone) isnt neccesarily within the context of how it was written. THAT is the only problem with using text - there is no way without getting heated that people are able 2 put across the FEELING behind the words.

At the end of the day, I dont have a beef with u or anyone else. Far from it, so dont u ever doubt that 4 a second. Hey - life's Waaay 2 short... Right?

bananacologne said:

that it is. i guess i see both sides of this issue but i'm tired of debating it at all. i'm surprised by the truly vicious responses to this debate. but, i think the reason there's so much of a spread is because people's reactions to this issue have to do with their own unique heritages and life experiences.

as far as the lyrics causing this uproar i guess my family would fall somewhere into that 'long-haired' barbarians category prince created and used. and i regret that prince's lyrics do little to CELEBRATE my ancestors' culture, but rather sort of stereotype it that way, and as 'wallowing in bigotry'.

i think he would do a much better job of teaching about the moors if he left out the negative references to other cultures. they aren't necessary for building the moors up.

his choice of words could be MUCH better, imo.





i think at the end of the day prince will do what he's gonna do no matter what is said on here (as if he even reads it much less takes it seriously)

XxAxX said:

Exactly, I sure hope everybody else reads this ...