that would be cool, but its not positioned as that. though i guess you couldnt really mention that if you want people to buy the bigger releases later on, maybe. i think the best thing is to wait until the celebration is over, as they will make any announcements about new releases then most likely.

muleFunk said:

The number one thing that caught my attention is Sony Music is the label behind this. I thought that Sony was responsible for all of the non soundtrack albums and Warner Brothers had access to vault material. If this is not the case now I understand why it's been a wait for us. Sony is rushing a project out to get paid. That alone has pushed back a Parade SDE/Deluxe to the back burner. Is there someone who could clarify this for me?

I can't clarify anything, but I'm hoping that this is indeed an important challenge to the status quo that all unreleased vault material recorded while under contract to WB belongs to WB because of the DCMA work for hire provisions.

This was always something I have railed against as extremely unfair.I hope that this represents a serious challenge to this absurd retroactive doctrine when it comes to Prince's vault material and leads to all this vault material being "owned" by Prince as it should be.

MIRvmn1 said:

Someone on Facebook said the silhouette was created out of a Hop Farm 2011 photo by Neil Lupin.

https://www.gettyimages.a.../118108802

simon1969 said:

just a thought regarding Timeless. How would we all feel if the album was framed as a Sampler for forthcoming releases ? ie Heaven from the forthcoming Parade SDE, With this Tear from the forthcoming Love Symbol sde, How Come U dont call me from the forthcoming Piano and a Microphone etc ?

This would then look like a release strategy rather than a disconnected set of tracks ?

This would make perfect sense so not happening with that conman Londell MCMillions.
Teh Estate has become WB and how they treated Prince when he was with them b y saying he should release less and the fans have become Prince who want more releases like PRince wanted.

Yeah, this just confirms what some people said after last year's Celebration (Raphy from Schkopi, IIRC): McMillan/Spicer just don't know what to do with the previously unreleased stuff / what has been digitized so far in the Vault. They have no clear plan. They don't know how to make (a lot of) money with it. Hence this totally underwhelming release, the Deluxe Editions (Parade included, I'm ready to bet) that won't include anything previously unreleased, etc.

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olb99 said:

johnpiex said:

olb99 said:

Yeah, this just confirms what some people said after last year's Celebration (Raphy from Schkopi, IIRC): McMillan/Spicer just don't know what to do with the previously unreleased stuff / what has been digitized so far in the Vault. They have no clear plan. They don't know how to make (a lot of) money with it. Hence this totally underwhelming release, the Deluxe Editions (Parade included, I'm ready to bet) that won't include anything previously unreleased, etc.

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Why not do a separate documentary about the legendary vault? They could talk to the people who were there, including musicians and engineers, Prince historians etc., and include audio and video footage. They could make it a multi part series with each focusing on a specific era. Compare the albums that were released at the time with the rest of the material that was recorded during that period, offer alternate track lists, etc. They could use that as a launching pad to release a Vault Series of unreleased music, which Prince toyed with the 90s, and/or restart the NPG Music Club. They could coordinate the doc series with Duane Tudahl’s books, so those whose curiosity was piqued by the series could by the books. Get the fans involved while we are still alive, which for many of whom would be a labor of love.

Ah stop coming in here with common sense and genuinely great ideas, how on earth could they monetise that via bedspreads and caps?

olb99 said:

johnpiex said:

olb99 said:

Yeah, this just confirms what some people said after last year's Celebration (Raphy from Schkopi, IIRC): McMillan/Spicer just don't know what to do with the previously unreleased stuff / what has been digitized so far in the Vault. They have no clear plan. They don't know how to make (a lot of) money with it. Hence this totally underwhelming release, the Deluxe Editions (Parade included, I'm ready to bet) that won't include anything previously unreleased, etc.

[Edited 6/5/26 9:38am]

Why not do a separate documentary about the legendary vault? They could talk to the people who were there, including musicians and engineers, Prince historians etc., and include audio and video footage. They could make it a multi part series with each focusing on a specific era. Compare the albums that were released at the time with the rest of the material that was recorded during that period, offer alternate track lists, etc. They could use that as a launching pad to release a Vault Series of unreleased music, which Prince toyed with the 90s, and/or restart the NPG Music Club. They could coordinate the doc series with Duane Tudahl’s books, so those whose curiosity was piqued by the series could by the books. Get the fans involved while we are still alive, which for many of whom would be a labor of love.

This makes waaay to much sense and costs money, so they won't do it. Tehy only do things as cheap and ghetto as possible to maximize there profits (or so they think)

MIRvmn1 said:

olb99 said:

Yeah, this just confirms what some people said after last year's Celebration (Raphy from Schkopi, IIRC): McMillan/Spicer just don't know what to do with the previously unreleased stuff / what has been digitized so far in the Vault. They have no clear plan. They don't know how to make (a lot of) money with it. Hence this totally underwhelming release, the Deluxe Editions (Parade included, I'm ready to bet) that won't include anything previously unreleased, etc.

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Yes, I don't think they have a real plan in place for the vault music. It's insane because they had a few years to figure it out.

The fact they have multiple mastered and ready for release live shoiws laying around in the vault but won't release them tells me they just want to irritate and lose us so they can con the gullible younger fans

They need some bad publicity in the media, like respectable Prince fans in the show business (Questlove, Mathieu Bitton...who else?) calling them out in interviews on TV about how badly they are managing the estate. Maybe a couple of articles about that on major newspapers and they'd be exposed. Then maybe McMillions would stop being arrogant towards fans on interviews where he gets invited. But I'm not so sure either...

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Marco81 said:

They need some bad publicity in the media, like respectable Prince fans in the show business (Questlove, Mathieu Bitton...who else?) calling them out in interviews on TV about how badly they are managing the estate. Maybe a couple of articles about that on major newspapers and they'd be exposed. Then maybe McMillions would stop being arrogant towards fans on interviews where he gets invited. But I'm not so sure either...

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Questlove is a suckup who wants to be elbow deep in there and he probabl;y has a documantary deal with them so he'll lick there ass whatever they do. Bitton is probbaly hoping to get emplyed again by them for whatever subpar artwork or something so I don't expect anything from him either.
For the rest they don't care about us fans nor the Estate while listeneing to what they have they can't/won't share. We are on our own.

MIRvmn1 said:

Ndorphinmachina said:

Is this image AI? Does anyone know the source of the picture?

One cuff looks flared the other doesn't. The collar, the cheekbone, the torso looks bigger than he was? Though granted it could be an optical illusion with this arms positioned how they are. The guitar not being the Symbol or cloud... The upper horn of the guitar is typically longer than the bottom? At the very least that's been edited out.

Obviously I'm old now and suspect everything is AI.

Someone on Facebook said the silhouette was created out of a Hop Farm 2011 photo by Neil Lupin.

Thanks, found it.

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mrjj71 said:

AvocadosMax said:

zobilanew said: That’s gonna suck. Expect no vault tracks, or if any very little and horribly mixed/sourced from leaks

I'm hanging on to the quote that Bobby z and Lisa are involved so hopefully it'll be good and have the proper outtakes etc

If true that at least gives me some hope.

simon1969 said:

just a thought regarding Timeless. How would we all feel if the album was framed as a Sampler for forthcoming releases ? ie Heaven from the forthcoming Parade SDE, With this Tear from the forthcoming Love Symbol sde, How Come U dont call me from the forthcoming Piano and a Microphone etc ?

This would then look like a release strategy rather than a disconnected set of tracks ?

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a) a sampler is still a disconnected set of tracks.

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b) what kind of idiot makes merch for a sampler?

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c) why should we pay full price for a sampler?

muleFunk said:

dustoff said:

Who is "they"?

I've been told because of the underperformance of Diamonds and Pearls SDE ALL Supe Deluxe Editions have been canceled.

They went with Alice through the looking glass as the first promotional single... it's dull. Nobody is dancing round their kitchen to that song. Nobody is putting that song on to get read to go out. A first single is supposed to get people excited.

I mean, It was also overpriced and not as popular with fans as looking at the 90s sales data might lead one to believe.

The bluray was very popular though. I still get reaction videos in my YouTube feed.

Whoever is making these kind of decisions. Shouldn't be.

Ndorphinmachina said:

the SDE model isnt the only one.

theres also the miles davis/dylan model of just releasing compilations for each period/era.

that would be ideal, and save people from worrying about whether such and such song was for which album.

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

looking at the bob dylan bootleg series, if they did the same for prince, it could be great. they dont even have to release it step by step chronological order, it could just be a diff period each time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Dylan_discography#The_Bootleg_Series

trickyjoe7777 said:

johnpiex said:

olb99 said: Why not do a separate documentary about the legendary vault? They could talk to the people who were there, including musicians and engineers, Prince historians etc., and include audio and video footage. They could make it a multi part series with each focusing on a specific era. Compare the albums that were released at the time with the rest of the material that was recorded during that period, offer alternate track lists, etc. They could use that as a launching pad to release a Vault Series of unreleased music, which Prince toyed with the 90s, and/or restart the NPG Music Club. They could coordinate the doc series with Duane Tudahl’s books, so those whose curiosity was piqued by the series could by the books. Get the fans involved while we are still alive, which for many of whom would be a labor of love.

Ah stop coming in here with common sense and genuinely great ideas, how on earth could they monetise that via bedspreads and caps?

ahhaahah oh man that made me laugh

oh but don't forget the pajamas!

Genuinely think I might pass on this one, in terms of the retail version.

I'm sure I'll eventually hear the songs on streaming or Youtube or something, but honestly am starting to lose interest in the Prince estate. I just noticed the last few loose tracks they put out, I haven't really listened to them, it's just too frustrating.

If the estate can't take meaningful steps this year to get larger volumes of P's unreleased work to fans, rather than this feeble trickle of tracks, I don't really see much of a future for any of it.

The notion that the songs need to be "finished" or more polished up to avoid alienating younger fans is truly bizarre. Casual fans are better off sticking with the released albums and the hits. The OG fans who actually care about Prince's raw unreleased demos and live material are well used to working with boots that are a bit rough around the edges.

Fire LMM and Spicer, for the love of god.

[Edited 6/5/26 18:42pm]

of couse, i wish we could have an SDE. However, i'm actually happy they are doing a more inexpensive single album with some excellent selections and (for me) 4 tracks I've not heard of.

Indeed a 2011 picture taken by Neil Lupin, so not Ai.

But certainly heavy 'wrong' work was done on the original pic.

Wonder who the designer is on this project?

[Edited 6/6/26 6:25am]

Apparently at the vault panel they admitted this was a stopgap release to get something out while they try to "clear up the mess the last guys left them". Yes, four years after taking over the clowns are still whining and blaming their problems on other people.

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Crazy how the previous guys managed to release almost 200 tracks (and several live videos) (and yes, they get credit for the D&P SDE, not the current regime), but the new regime isn't in double figures yet (again: after FOUR YEARS). Add in Timeless and by the end of August the new regime will have released 10% of what the previous regime has...

bizzie said:

Apparently at the vault panel they admitted this was a stopgap release to get something out while they try to "clear up the mess the last guys left them". Yes, four years after taking over the clowns are still whining and blaming their problems on other people.

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Crazy how the previous guys managed to release almost 200 tracks (and several live videos) (and yes, they get credit for the D&P SDE, not the current regime), but the new regime isn't in double figures yet (again: after FOUR YEARS). Add in Timeless and by the end of August the new regime will have released 10% of what the previous regime has...

Their incompetence beggars belief. What mess? The last guys did all the work.

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I mean, it was obviously going to happen in hindsight. The current estate have little to no experience, refuse to listen to fans and are constantly chasing a fictitious "next generation" of Prince fans.

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I like the song "Stone". But it's not a pop banger, Nobody is driving around, blasting an admittedly uptempo; but ultimately melancholic song about loneliness from their car this summer.

[Edited 6/6/26 13:26pm]