johnpiex said:

We have good basic information on most songs via Princevault, except for "Bestest Friend" (4:38).

Let's hope they provide much more info on all songs this time, it looks like they wanna do that.

But again, an uncertain wait till 28 august, or maybe even not.

They actually already could provide that, can do no harm to the official date of release.

It would show some improvement on their lack of decent communication.

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Why didn't they provide more clear information on "Timeless"?

Why that choice?

Why (not a clear and detailed explanation on) the change of their course on releases? Even if it is pure financial, at least that would be honest and openly clear for all to try to understand.

Why didn't they explained basic info on each track yet? WHy not? Can do no harm. It can even attrack interest from media to write about it, and anxiously want to hear it.

Why only 9 songs?

Why a live song?

Why the artwork?

Why no video's yet?

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And as far as I understand, Primary Wave has certainly played a somewhat more low-key role in this whole affair, refraining (for the time being) from sending out any unfiltered BS or ambiguous statements (unlike the two lightweights do).

But it does seem that PW are fully on The Estate’s side when it comes to future releases.
Perhaps we should hear more from them, interview them, probe them, see if there is a difference or not (in communication alone).

AvocadosMax said:

Just what is this.. Worse than the Michael Jackson estate and that’s saying something

The estate that is worth anywhere between $2.5 - $5bn? That one that does stuff? I say that as I stare at my Inart 1/6 Dangerous and Smooth Criminal MJ figures and having just enjoyed his biopic. Prince's estate has gone backwards since the heights of the 1999 and SOTT SDE's. Such a shame. Prince should be everywhere, whether people like commercial stuff or not.

trickyjoe7777 said:

Obviously so many things wrong with this but the ultimate kick in the balls for me is trimming Heaven to a radio edit - it's been an absolute grail for me (and many others) to have this pristine with presumably the start and the fuckwits lop over three minutes off of it.

i fucking despair

You will get that with the 'Timeless SDE' release next year

Marrk said:

AvocadosMax said:

Just what is this.. Worse than the Michael Jackson estate and that’s saying something

The estate that is worth anywhere between $2.5 - $5bn? That one that does stuff? I say that as I stare at my Inart 1/6 Dangerous and Smooth Criminal MJ figures and having just enjoyed his biopic. Prince's estate has gone backwards since the heights of the 1999 and SOTT SDE's. Such a shame. Prince should be everywhere, whether people like commercial stuff or not.

Word! The MJ estate are a godzillion times better than McMillions & company. Look even SOTT SDE wasn't perfect. Where the FUCK is the sax version of "Crucial" my personal favorite outtake by a mile

NICKthebrick said:

ShellyMcG said:

shakalakaboom said:

MOST of Prince’s songs over 6 minutes need an edit

What are the exceptions, in your opinion?

shakalakaboom said:

NICKthebrick said:

From reports elsewhere it sounds as if the version of Heaven is the mix Prince intended for The Dawn project.

. . I’m actually happy to hear this, as I’m firmly of the opinion that MOST of Prince’s songs over 6 minutes need an edit. Lots of noodly jamming in that catalogue, and there are so many songs that benefited from a prerelease edit. That 8 minute Heaven really loses steam about the 5 minute mark…. . . Also I don’t care if this is your favorite song and Prince can do no wrong.

Luckily, your opinion is in the minority.

Noodly jamming is the best.

homesquid said:

Marrk said:

The estate that is worth anywhere between $2.5 - $5bn? That one that does stuff? I say that as I stare at my Inart 1/6 Dangerous and Smooth Criminal MJ figures and having just enjoyed his biopic. Prince's estate has gone backwards since the heights of the 1999 and SOTT SDE's. Such a shame. Prince should be everywhere, whether people like commercial stuff or not.

Word! The MJ estate are a godzillion times better than McMillions & company. Look even SOTT SDE wasn't perfect. Where the FUCK is the sax version of "Crucial" my personal favorite outtake by a mile

I would say Prince's estate is now on par with MJ's. MJ's estate has infuriated me more than Prince's but only becaus s he's gone for a longer time than PRince.

NICKthebrick said:

If they were to release these kind of collections regularly say every 6 to 8 months I would be happy with that. Smaller collections you can really digest. Cheaper and more easily assembled. No need for great big books, just simple liner notes. Focus on the music. I actually think this would be the best way forward. Release deluxe editions of albums like they did with Around The World in a Day. Regular smaller vault releases like Timeless. Release live shows on their own seperate releases.

Makes zero sense.

Every other artist can figure this out but these folks can't?

olb99 said:

shakalakaboom said:

MOST of Prince’s songs over 6 minutes need an edit

What are the exceptions, in your opinion?

thanks for asking!

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Well, i think the album versions of Controversy and Let's Pretend We're Married are perfection. DMSR too. and yet Automatic WEARS ME OUT. Lady Cab Driver: a total jam. but too damn long.

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I think "Computer Blue" is perfection in its edited album version. I even like the first edit (7 or 8 minutes?), before the one that ended up on the album. that being said: the 14 minute hallway speech version is also perfection. it's not an exact science.

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Temptation is too damn long. but the meandering story telling and LOOOONG intro of "Condition of the Heart" is exactly the right length.

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"It's gonna be a beautiful night" is too damn long. somehow "hot thing" is not. ha ha! i don't know.

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All 7 minutes of "Positivity" slams. Glam Slam needs a minute trimmed off, in addition to that dumb synth string ending.

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ETC. ETC.

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all my opinions, and i can't justify or explain any of my choices. oh, and I didn't even bother with the ballads. two words: International Lover.

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dustoff said:

Noodly jamming is the best.

ha ha! i know, i'm in the minority here. i just like when he gets that groove going and gets to the point. i would say that his best work always benefits from an edit, and the bonus is that the noodly jamming becomes the 12" version. and they are frequently FANTASTIC.