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Thread started 03/29/26 8:17pm

bizzie

Lolita live on YouTube; 3121 Deluxe in the Fall(?)

Source: https://x.com/prince/stat...8152435077

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More to come on 3121 this Fall 2026

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So presumably we're getting a Deluxe(?) edition of 3121 this Fall. Except: there are no B-Sides. Are there even outtakes? Or is the package going to include a video? But the one they posted on YouTube is in atrocious quality: https://www.youtube.com/w...Wsu9uma5SU .

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Reply #1 posted 03/29/26 10:02pm

Marco81

You are reading waaaaay too much into this. It'll be some tacky merchandise, as usual.
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Reply #2 posted 03/29/26 10:20pm

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Maybe a new 3121 perfume lol
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Reply #3 posted 03/30/26 5:33am

psyche2

Well, at least a bit of previously unseen footage is nice! biggrin

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I reckon I'd be happy to get the complete show even in this funny quality. But yeah, we'll probably get some new t-shirt instead lol

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Reply #4 posted 03/30/26 6:10am

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Well the "remastered" tracks they put out on spotify were nice and it would be great if they have more material like that AND on hard-copy.
Also, wasn't there some sort of mini movie shot in that era (memory is failing me at the moment).

And I would be happy to see live footage from that album period, maybe from his casino concerts?

[Edited 3/30/26 6:15am]

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Reply #5 posted 03/30/26 8:00am

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psyche2 said:

Well, at least a bit of previously unseen footage is nice! biggrin



I thought so at first too, but it turns out that Dr. Funkenberry shared this on Vimeo (and probably other places) back in March, 2012. The video was also cropped back then.

All thanks to spacebook for the reminder!

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Reply #6 posted 03/30/26 9:30am

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bizzie said:

Source: https://x.com/prince/stat...8152435077


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More to come on 3121 this Fall 2026



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So presumably we're getting a Deluxe(?) edition of 3121 this Fall. Except: there are no B-Sides. Are there even outtakes? Or is the package going to include a video? But the one they posted on YouTube is in atrocious quality: https://www.youtube.com/w...Wsu9uma5SU .



Well, there ARE outtakes from this period. Streets Of Panama and Shameless to name two. Whether they (and potentially others) will actually be included or not is debatable. I have a feeling that they won't. I think the estate will do the bare minimum of they do anything at all.
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Reply #7 posted 03/30/26 10:06am

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3121 the music - is great. 3121 the movie - is not!
It'd be interesting to hear what else was recorded around that time but the way this estate is ru(i)ning things we will be lucky to get anything new.

This year should be a Parade 40th Super Deluxe but I doubt that's gonna happen (I really hope I'm wrong) but this being 10 years since the Piano and Mic tour - a bluray/cd set of the Paisley Park Gala shows would be just as welcome.

Theres also the possibility of a Symbol Album Deluxe/remaster. The rumour of the Act II RSD gave us some hope. Time will tell I guess.
[Edited 3/30/26 10:07am]
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Reply #8 posted 03/30/26 11:00am

Marco81

jimino1 said:

3121 the music - is great. 3121 the movie - is not! It'd be interesting to hear what else was recorded around that time but the way this estate is ru(i)ning things we will be lucky to get anything new. This year should be a Parade 40th Super Deluxe but I doubt that's gonna happen (I really hope I'm wrong) but this being 10 years since the Piano and Mic tour - a bluray/cd set of the Paisley Park Gala shows would be just as welcome. Theres also the possibility of a Symbol Album Deluxe/remaster. The rumour of the Act II RSD gave us some hope. Time will tell I guess. [Edited 3/30/26 10:07am]

And how would you know? Have you watched the movie? Or are you going by what's been said in the past by people who supposedly watched it?

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Reply #9 posted 03/30/26 12:03pm

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Could it be that they've shifted focus from Parade to 3121 this year? There's a rumour on Reddit that The Estate is trying to move away from Warner Bros which might explain it.
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Reply #10 posted 03/30/26 12:59pm

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I would certainly welcome a concert video from the Vegas residency. Sam Jennings recently alluded to there being several outtakes that were considered on the album sequence https://www.facebook.com/...nnings3000

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Reply #11 posted 03/30/26 2:03pm

psyche2

MIRvmn1 said:

Could it be that they've shifted focus from Parade to 3121 this year? There's a rumour on Reddit that The Estate is trying to move away from Warner Bros which might explain it.

At the current rate, they are moving away from everybody lol

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Reply #12 posted 03/30/26 3:32pm

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MIRvmn1 said:


Could it be that they've shifted focus from Parade to 3121 this year? There's a rumour on Reddit that The Estate is trying to move away from Warner Bros which might explain it.


At the current rate, they are moving away from everybody lol



Could be the opposite and Warners want sod all to do with them? They weren’t at the last celebration panel (someone from Sony was).
There may or may not be something coming!
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Reply #13 posted 03/30/26 3:46pm

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FrankieCoco1 said:

psyche2 said:



MIRvmn1 said:


Could it be that they've shifted focus from Parade to 3121 this year? There's a rumour on Reddit that The Estate is trying to move away from Warner Bros which might explain it.


At the current rate, they are moving away from everybody lol



Could be the opposite and Warners want sod all to do with them? They weren’t at the last celebration panel (someone from Sony was).

I wouldn't be surprised. Warners must be tired of dealing with The Estate by now. Barely any releases since 2023 and no PR SDE in 2024 for the PR 40th anniversary.
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Reply #14 posted 03/30/26 6:09pm

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I really like this album, but my biggest quip is that there was never an extended remix of "Black Sweat"!!!

Welcome to "the org", nayroo2002… life, it ain't real funky unless it's got that pop
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Reply #15 posted 03/30/26 8:15pm

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MIRvmn1 said:

FrankieCoco1 said:
Could be the opposite and Warners want sod all to do with them? They weren’t at the last celebration panel (someone from Sony was).
I wouldn't be surprised. Warners must be tired of dealing with The Estate by now. Barely any releases since 2023 and no PR SDE in 2024 for the PR 40th anniversary.

That's one way of looking at it, if it's true.

I see it this way:

If Warner is causing issues with re-releases and SDE's (for whatever reason), it may be best to focus on albums that Prince actually owned masters to from the beginning, as his independence is a HUGE focus, this being the 30th anniversary of Emancipation and C&D, along with milestone anniversaries of other non-WB albums.

The Estate can easily decide to just release things between '96-'16, including vault material from that period and whatever vault material before '96 they have sole access to.

A common misconception is that P just "got his masters back" and that was the end of it.

It wasn't that simple. He got them back and the copyrights were transferred to NPG in exchange for for exclusive distribution rights to material recorded during his original tenure whose WB copyright ownership hadn't expired. The distribution rights for WBR albums were always going to remain exclusive to them, even though the copyrights now belong to NPG. It's why P&M 83 was distrubted via Warner.

It's confusing as hell, but that's the deal since 2014. We don't know whether the estate has had issues with renegotiations (assuming the deal was for 7 years, as was rumored at the time).

[Edited 3/30/26 20:19pm]

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Reply #16 posted 03/30/26 9:59pm

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jimino1 said:

3121 the music - is great. 3121 the movie - is not! It'd be interesting to hear what else was recorded around that time but the way this estate is ru(i)ning things we will be lucky to get anything new. This year should be a Parade 40th Super Deluxe but I doubt that's gonna happen (I really hope I'm wrong) but this being 10 years since the Piano and Mic tour - a bluray/cd set of the Paisley Park Gala shows would be just as welcome. Theres also the possibility of a Symbol Album Deluxe/remaster. The rumour of the Act II RSD gave us some hope. Time will tell I guess. [Edited 3/30/26 10:07am]

Well, I, for one, would be happy to see the 3121 movie. Any opportunity to see Prince on film is good. Besides, it's not as though it is any worse than Graffiti Bridge?

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Reply #17 posted 03/31/26 5:58am

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MIRvmn1 said:

FrankieCoco1 said:
Could be the opposite and Warners want sod all to do with them? They weren’t at the last celebration panel (someone from Sony was).
I wouldn't be surprised. Warners must be tired of dealing with The Estate by now. Barely any releases since 2023 and no PR SDE in 2024 for the PR 40th anniversary.


I think the Estate wants a bigger piece of the 'Purple Pie' than WB is offering for the Parade/PR/Batman/Graffiti Bridge SDEs.

As WB owns the distribution rights to the movies and soundtracks/vault material of that period
So if the rumours are true, then this could definitely impact a Parade SDE and we might only get a remastered version.

Maybe that’s why the only news we’re getting is about a potential 3121 release this fall.

[Edited 3/31/26 6:02am]

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Reply #18 posted 03/31/26 6:29am

Vannormal

Why is this video in such bad quality?

And why is it framed (smaller) on a fake TV screen with a fake purple lit background?

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Reply #19 posted 03/31/26 7:56am

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Marco81 said:



jimino1 said:


3121 the music - is great. 3121 the movie - is not! It'd be interesting to hear what else was recorded around that time but the way this estate is ru(i)ning things we will be lucky to get anything new. This year should be a Parade 40th Super Deluxe but I doubt that's gonna happen (I really hope I'm wrong) but this being 10 years since the Piano and Mic tour - a bluray/cd set of the Paisley Park Gala shows would be just as welcome. Theres also the possibility of a Symbol Album Deluxe/remaster. The rumour of the Act II RSD gave us some hope. Time will tell I guess. [Edited 3/30/26 10:07am]

And how would you know? Have you watched the movie? Or are you going by what's been said in the past by people who supposedly watched it?



I've seen the 'movie'. Its not really a movie though either. There's no real storyline...its more a bunch of clips joined by incidental elements... id like to see it released officially of course - but its not something I'd watch over and over
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Reply #20 posted 03/31/26 8:06am

JorisE73

jimino1 said:

Marco81 said:

And how would you know? Have you watched the movie? Or are you going by what's been said in the past by people who supposedly watched it?

I've seen the 'movie'. Its not really a movie though either. There's no real storyline...its more a bunch of clips joined by incidental elements... id like to see it released officially of course - but its not something I'd watch over and over


both versions or edits aren't that remarkable according tio the cliques who seen them and certainly not a 'movie'. Prince walking around Panama, recording in teh studio with some live shots thrown and whatever else. A bit like the Diamonds & Pearls video collection and 3 Chans Of Gold video release.

[Edited 3/31/26 9:33am]

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Reply #21 posted 03/31/26 1:55pm

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If the Estate doesn't mention Parade at all today, then we probably won't even get a Deluxe Edition this year. But I really hope we at least get a 3121 Deluxe with some outtakes and a concert.
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Reply #22 posted 03/31/26 3:55pm

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Why is this video in such bad quality?

And why is it framed (smaller) on a fake TV screen with a fake purple lit background?

Probably they only have the footage in Standard Definition and haven't paid to get it upscaled to HD. So they just stuck a frame around it so they could upload to YouTube in "HD" lol

Which also makes me think we won't see a whole concert released.

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Reply #23 posted 04/01/26 10:59am

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JorisE73 said:

jimino1 said:

Marco81 said: I've seen the 'movie'. Its not really a movie though either. There's no real storyline...its more a bunch of clips joined by incidental elements... id like to see it released officially of course - but its not something I'd watch over and over


both versions or edits aren't that remarkable according tio the cliques who seen them and certainly not a 'movie'. Prince walking around Panama, recording in teh studio with some live shots thrown and whatever else. A bit like the Diamonds & Pearls video collection and 3 Chans Of Gold video release.

[Edited 3/31/26 9:33am]

Not a movie per se, but I love that it exists.

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