ShellyMcG said:

The OP's question was 'what was your thoughts'? I contributed mine. I haven't bashed anything. I just don't think what you think is a good thing is a good thing. I don't think it's a bad thing. It does not move me. What will move me on par with y'all's excitement of Purple Rain being featured on a hit TV show is new Prince music I've never heard. If my distaste for people building careers out of exploiting a man I held a certain affection and respect for comes across in my tone, well that's a thing.

So, my thoughts...the licensing of Prince's music for inclusion in hit TV shows is counter to what I wish to see happen via Prince's estate and the first step on a slippery slope. Good for anybody who's deriving some satisfaction from it, but I currently am not. As for stranger things, I've never watched it, I never will watch it and I will never have an opinion on it.

peedub said:

Yeah I never said you bashed anything. I was talking about the weirdos on here and reddit who seem to think this is a bad thing for reasons that are not entirely clear. To be honest, I'm not particularly excited by Purple Rain being featured in the show either. I'd much rather hear something I've never heard before. And I don't really care how much Prince sells or how many streams he gets either for the same reason I don't care how much money my favourite movies make at the box office or how many copies my favourite games sell. Makes no difference to me personally. I did get a kick out of hearing Prince music in the show though and I thought both songs were used quite well in the context of the show.

I appreciate your point of view and I agree with some of your points. Where I disagree is that while this stuff doesn't mean much to us existing fans, I am happy to see younger people experience Prince and the exposure a show like Stranger Things can give to any artist's music is huge. Sure, I don't care about the actual sales/streaming figures but I do think that it's a nice thing for others to experience good music. Even if I don't personally benefit from it.

We know that the estate is a business. Up to now, it's not been a well run business and I can only imagine how much money they have lost in the last few years. Releasing new vault material is a risky move because Prince is not Michael Jackson or Bruce Springsteen. He's just not that popular or well known. That's a fact. As much as I want it, there is no guarantee a collection of outtakes will sell in big numbers. If the estate want to try rebuild the Prince brand then putting his music in big TV shows and movies is a step forward in my opinion. It gets his name out there again and it reminds lapsed fans who he is while also introducing him to a new, younger audience. Hopefully, some of those young folks become fans. And if so, then a new album of vault material looks like a better deal because there are more fans to sell it to.

I know Prince was against his music being used in movies and shows but Prince is gone. And so are most of his fans. Licensing his music is one way of getting those fans back. If I were in charge of the estate, I'd be straight on to the producers of GTA 6 and I'd be offering them the rights to use Prince music in the game for free. The exposure that would get would be huge and it would make the Stranger Things numbers look paltry in comparison. Would Prince like it? No. Probably not. Would it generate new fans? Yes, it would.

Prince wasn’t averse to his music in movies and shows over the years and decades:

Sexy Dancer & Sexuality in Summer Lovers
DMSR in Risky Business
Nasty Girl in Beverly Hills Cop
Good Love in Bright Lights, Big City
A few in Batman
Gett Off in The Last Boy Scout
Superhero in Blankman
Get Wild in Pret-A-Porter
Loads of songs in Girl 6
319 in Showgirls
2045: Radical Man in Bamboozled
Song of the Heart in Happy Feet
Fallinlove2nite in New Girl

I’ve probably missed a few.
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FrankieCoco1 said:

True enough. Although some of those were likely not his decision. What Prince was vocally averse to, and worked hard for the bulk of his career to avoid, was executives making decisions/profit surrounding the produce of his labor.

ShellyMcG said:

Well, I'm heartened to know we are more on the same page than I previously understood.

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FrankieCoco1 said:

Prince wasn’t averse to his music in movies and shows over the years and decades:

Sexy Dancer & Sexuality in Summer Lovers
DMSR in Risky Business
Nasty Girl in Beverly Hills Cop
Good Love in Bright Lights, Big City
A few in Batman
Gett Off in The Last Boy Scout
Superhero in Blankman
Get Wild in Pret-A-Porter
Loads of songs in Girl 6
Ripopgodazippa, 319 in Showgirls
2045: Radical Man in Bamboozled
Song of the Heart in Happy Feet
Fallinlove2nite in New Girl

I’ve probably missed a few.

"Head" - Waiting to Exhale
"When Doves Cry" / "Little Red Corvette" (x2) / Knight Rider
"17 Days" (1983 piano) / "Musicology" - Queer

"Raspberry Beret" - Dark Matter

"Let's Go Crazy" - Sing 2

"Nasty Girl" / "Sugar Walls" / "A Love Bizarre" / "Nothing Compares 2 U" / "Sometimes It Snows in April" / "Kiss" - Pose

"Gett Off" - Coming 2 America

tons of songs in the series She's Gotta Have It

"I Wanna Be Your Lover" - Ready Player One

"Nothing Compares 2 U" - This Is Us

"Delirious" - Scandal

"Trust" / "Nothing Compares 2 U - American Dad

"PretzelBodyLogic" - The Good Wife

"If I Was Your Girlfriend" - Striptease

....to name a few more.

ShellyMcG said:

peedub said:

The OP's question was 'what was your thoughts'? I contributed mine. I haven't bashed anything. I just don't think what you think is a good thing is a good thing. I don't think it's a bad thing. It does not move me. What will move me on par with y'all's excitement of Purple Rain being featured on a hit TV show is new Prince music I've never heard. If my distaste for people building careers out of exploiting a man I held a certain affection and respect for comes across in my tone, well that's a thing. So, my thoughts...the licensing of Prince's music for inclusion in hit TV shows is counter to what I wish to see happen via Prince's estate and the first step on a slippery slope. Good for anybody who's deriving some satisfaction from it, but I currently am not. As for stranger things, I've never watched it, I never will watch it and I will never have an opinion on it.

Yeah I never said you bashed anything. I was talking about the weirdos on here and reddit who seem to think this is a bad thing for reasons that are not entirely clear. To be honest, I'm not particularly excited by Purple Rain being featured in the show either. I'd much rather hear something I've never heard before. And I don't really care how much Prince sells or how many streams he gets either for the same reason I don't care how much money my favourite movies make at the box office or how many copies my favourite games sell. Makes no difference to me personally. I did get a kick out of hearing Prince music in the show though and I thought both songs were used quite well in the context of the show. I appreciate your point of view and I agree with some of your points. Where I disagree is that while this stuff doesn't mean much to us existing fans, I am happy to see younger people experience Prince and the exposure a show like Stranger Things can give to any artist's music is huge. Sure, I don't care about the actual sales/streaming figures but I do think that it's a nice thing for others to experience good music. Even if I don't personally benefit from it. We know that the estate is a business. Up to now, it's not been a well run business and I can only imagine how much money they have lost in the last few years. Releasing new vault material is a risky move because Prince is not Michael Jackson or Bruce Springsteen. He's just not that popular or well known. That's a fact. As much as I want it, there is no guarantee a collection of outtakes will sell in big numbers. If the estate want to try rebuild the Prince brand then putting his music in big TV shows and movies is a step forward in my opinion. It gets his name out there again and it reminds lapsed fans who he is while also introducing him to a new, younger audience. Hopefully, some of those young folks become fans. And if so, then a new album of vault material looks like a better deal because there are more fans to sell it to. I know Prince was against his music being used in movies and shows but Prince is gone. And so are most of his fans. Licensing his music is one way of getting those fans back. If I were in charge of the estate, I'd be straight on to the producers of GTA 6 and I'd be offering them the rights to use Prince music in the game for free. The exposure that would get would be huge and it would make the Stranger Things numbers look paltry in comparison. Would Prince like it? No. Probably not. Would it generate new fans? Yes, it would.

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My thoughts:
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As I said before, I seriously doubt P would've liked this show. I know it's popular, but it's the kind of trash P must've thought about when he wrote the first part of 'One Song' (the part I quoted before on this thread).
Of course P has licensed his music to movies several times, so I'm not saying it's wrong to do that IF the movie in question deserves it, but there is a difference between "selling" 'Ripopgodazippa', 'Song Of The Heart', 'Get Wild' etc, etc – and the single most important, emblematic, career-defining song of his entire life, 'Purple Rain'. I guess you'll agree with me that he would've been a "little more" careful about which production he allows 'Purple Rain' to be associated with.
AND I bet he would've made damn sure that the edit the fim required is done in a way that makes sense musically too. The way 'Purple Rain' was butchered in this thing is anything but professional or musical.
.
Now, regarding the business side of things:
No-one is saying the estate shouldn't make licensing deals that leads to P being introduced to younger generations too. Of course I'm all for that too. But as they claim to protect the artistic integrity of P's legacy so vehemently sometimes, perhaps they could've applied similar precautions about this request too. They could've chosen another popular movie or series. They could've chosen another song.
.
And there's also this profession called marketing, with some set rules and plenty of best practices that are being taught worldwide. One of these basic rules is that if you do a promotion (such as placing a song in a movie) and you're expecting to generate a ton of leads (interest in your product), then it's only trivial that you bloody well make sure you HAVE a product these leads can land on.
The Estate, in all their self-proclaimed business-wisdom, couldn't achieve a simple agreement with Warners to have the 'Purple Rain' official video on YT so that all these young kids who watched the show could watch Prince performing the song too. Instead, they resorted to uploading the audio only, with some looped, meaningless visuals.
This is such a stupid mistake that it could almost negate the entire deal – and the song they sacrificed in the process is the most important song of P's career.

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Moonbeam said:

JorisE73 said:

It's not negative, that's just what you want to see it seems. It's just what the concensus is after reading all the ghate towards this last season and I agree, it's a lame season with a extremely lame ending.
I think it's great Prince is finally getting some exposure and this is the one of the most watched shows from the last decade so at kleast that is great. But given the fact most hardcore fans of the show don't like it I don't expect the tracks or the album to do much in a few days or maybe weeks, especially not like Kate Bush's song did. Kate Bush wass in a highy popular season, maybe even the most popular season of the show and the fans made that track happen again, I don't hear much from the fans of the show regarding WDC and PR and how ot blew up the upside down other than that it was a lame showdown and it seems that overshadows the use of the tracks.

This is tiresome. Nobody is claiming Prince will surge in the same way "Running Up That Hill" did. But saying it will be forgotten in a few days as you originally did was hyperbolic and clearly wrong.

Meanwhile, "Purple Rain" once again had its best day ever on Spotify with 2,140,384 streams and charted at #33 globally for the day and remains in the top 20 for the US and the UK. It is likely to re-enter the Billboard Hot 100, something only "Running Up That Hill" and "Master of Puppets" have managed after appearing on the show. "When Doves Cry" landed nearly 600K streams and is holding steady. The bumps for other popular Prince songs are holding up well.

Don't worry man, and dpon't lety your enjoyment of life be swayed by some words on a screen, nothing's really serious on the internet so it is what it is. I think it's a shit show that won't do the same numbers for Prince like it did for Kate Bush (and I also said maybe weeks and not just days, but I understand that you want to glance obver that just to appease yourself, no problem at allm whatever floats your boat and even tho nobody claimed it, even tho some people did, I know fans are hoping for it to do the same as Running Up that Hill.)
We'll see what it does over time, in the end it wont matter to anyone except WB and the Estate that won't jump on the populartiy and ride the wave or most likely the Estate will fight with WB again for a bigger cut than they getting. It wouldn't surprise me if they press a limited overpriced WDC/Purple Rain single with that horrible AI picture as the cover that nobody wants, ecxept idiots that pay $1000 for ghetto celebrations, so no changes whatsoever. I just hope the kids who hear the tracks will dive deeper into Prince and join forces against the vultures at the Estate.

Kares said:

ShellyMcG said:

peedub said: Yeah I never said you bashed anything. I was talking about the weirdos on here and reddit who seem to think this is a bad thing for reasons that are not entirely clear. To be honest, I'm not particularly excited by Purple Rain being featured in the show either. I'd much rather hear something I've never heard before. And I don't really care how much Prince sells or how many streams he gets either for the same reason I don't care how much money my favourite movies make at the box office or how many copies my favourite games sell. Makes no difference to me personally. I did get a kick out of hearing Prince music in the show though and I thought both songs were used quite well in the context of the show. I appreciate your point of view and I agree with some of your points. Where I disagree is that while this stuff doesn't mean much to us existing fans, I am happy to see younger people experience Prince and the exposure a show like Stranger Things can give to any artist's music is huge. Sure, I don't care about the actual sales/streaming figures but I do think that it's a nice thing for others to experience good music. Even if I don't personally benefit from it. We know that the estate is a business. Up to now, it's not been a well run business and I can only imagine how much money they have lost in the last few years. Releasing new vault material is a risky move because Prince is not Michael Jackson or Bruce Springsteen. He's just not that popular or well known. That's a fact. As much as I want it, there is no guarantee a collection of outtakes will sell in big numbers. If the estate want to try rebuild the Prince brand then putting his music in big TV shows and movies is a step forward in my opinion. It gets his name out there again and it reminds lapsed fans who he is while also introducing him to a new, younger audience. Hopefully, some of those young folks become fans. And if so, then a new album of vault material looks like a better deal because there are more fans to sell it to. I know Prince was against his music being used in movies and shows but Prince is gone. And so are most of his fans. Licensing his music is one way of getting those fans back. If I were in charge of the estate, I'd be straight on to the producers of GTA 6 and I'd be offering them the rights to use Prince music in the game for free. The exposure that would get would be huge and it would make the Stranger Things numbers look paltry in comparison. Would Prince like it? No. Probably not. Would it generate new fans? Yes, it would.

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My thoughts:
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As I said before, I seriously doubt P would've liked this show. I know it's popular, but it's the kind of trash P must've thought about when he wrote the first part of 'One Song' (the part I quoted before on this thread).
Of course P has licensed his music to movies several times, so I'm not saying it's wrong to do that IF the movie in question deserves it, but there is a difference between "selling" 'Ripopgodazippa', 'Song Of The Heart', 'Get Wild' etc, etc – and the single most important, emblematic, career-defining song of his entire life, 'Purple Rain'. I guess you'll agree with me that he would've been a "little more" careful about which production he allows 'Purple Rain' to be associated with.
AND I bet he would've made damn sure that the edit the fim required is done in a way that makes sense musically too. The way 'Purple Rain' was butchered in this thing is anything but professional or musical.
.
Now, regarding the business side of things:
No-one is saying the estate shouldn't make licensing deals that leads to P being introduced to younger generations too. Of course I'm all for that too. But as they claim to protect the artistic integrity of P's legacy so vehemently sometimes, perhaps they could've applied similar precautions about this request too. They could've chosen another popular movie or series. They could've chosen another song.
The question was never 'Should the Estate make licensing deals to grow P's market?' – of course it should. The question was 'What kind of deals should they make?'.
Let's be honest, licensing this or that well-known song from P's vast catalog is by far the easiest project the Estate can ever engage in. You know how easy it could be for them to license songs for all sorts of commercials and shows? They would all generate a lot of interest. But the end doesn't always justify the means. The Estate's job is to make sure Prince's legacy is elevated, protected etc, and whenever he gets associated with a brand or product, it's something that can be justified by the messages of a few of his songs, for example.
.
And there's also this profession called marketing, with some set rules and plenty of best practices that are being taught worldwide. One of these basic rules is that if you do a promotion (such as placing a song in a movie) and you're expecting to generate a ton of leads (interest in your product), then it's only trivial that you bloody well make sure you HAVE a product these leads can land on.
The Estate, in all their self-proclaimed business-wisdom, couldn't achieve a simple agreement with Warners to have the 'Purple Rain' official video on YT so that all these young kids who watched the show could watch Prince performing the song too. Instead, they resorted to uploading the audio only, with some looped, meaningless visuals.
This is such a stupid mistake that it could almost negate the entire deal – and the song they sacrificed in the process is the most important song of P's career.

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[Edited 1/8/26 9:43am]

JorisE73 said:

Happy to let this go. I’ll just note in Reply #60, you said “KAte Bush shot to number 1, this will be foprgotten in a few days. Especially because most fans of the show think this season is beyond horrible, and I agree.”

In any case, it’s fine to disagree about the use of the songs, etc. I think it’s great that so many are being introduced to Prince, and that he is a good match for a show with a lot of misfit characters.

Kares said:

I have no doubt that Prince would not have liked Stranger Things. Men in their 60s may enjoy this show, but they are certainly not the target demographic. Having said that, Prince was a fan of that ghastly New Girl show. And that's one of the worst things I've ever seen. So you never know.

The editing of Purple Rain was really weird and for someone who has heard that song hundreds of times, it felt very jarring to hear how it was edited. Or "butchered", as you might say. But it fit the scene for which it was used so I can kind of get over that.

As for the marketing thing, yeah I agree. They knew this episode was coming and they knew the potential impact it would have on Prince's streaming figures and sales. Like I've said already on here, if I were in charge, I would have had the mythical Purple Rain Super Deluxe Edition ready to go. New fans get to experience a newly released Purple Rain package and us existing fans get some unreleased vault tracks we haven't heard before. But they didn't do that. Which, given how they've run things up to now, is not really a big surprise.

So yeah, us fans don't benefit from this renewed interest in Prince. Oh well. We're still no worse off than we were before. But at least younger generations now have an entry point into Prince-world.

Moonbeam said:

JorisE73 said:

Don't worry man, and dpon't lety your enjoyment of life be swayed by some words on a screen, nothing's really serious on the internet so it is what it is. I think it's a shit show that won't do the same numbers for Prince like it did for Kate Bush (and I also said maybe weeks and not just days, but I understand that you want to glance obver that just to appease yourself, no problem at allm whatever floats your boat and even tho nobody claimed it, even tho some people did, I know fans are hoping for it to do the same as Running Up that Hill.)
We'll see what it does over time, in the end it wont matter to anyone except WB and the Estate that won't jump on the populartiy and ride the wave or most likely the Estate will fight with WB again for a bigger cut than they getting. It wouldn't surprise me if they press a limited overpriced WDC/Purple Rain single with that horrible AI picture as the cover that nobody wants, ecxept idiots that pay $1000 for ghetto celebrations, so no changes whatsoever. I just hope the kids who hear the tracks will dive deeper into Prince and join forces against the vultures at the Estate.

Happy to let this go. I’ll just note in Reply #60, you said “KAte Bush shot to number 1, this will be foprgotten in a few days. Especially because most fans of the show think this season is beyond horrible, and I agree.” In any case, it’s fine to disagree about the use of the songs, etc. I think it’s great that so many are being introduced to Prince, and that he is a good match for a show with a lot of misfit characters.

Prince wasn't averse to violnce in movies given his taste for pretty violent movies but with a sdeeper message (The Matrix, Minority Report etc.) but movies or shows about portals and demons and children killing people, I don't think he would be all that positive with it or maybe he would have offered something else, we'll never know so not important to keep thinking about, it's all speculation from here that we'll never get an answer to. I just hope the kids and millenails/genZ'ers who mostly don't know shit about Prince and music in general and think he's a homophobic groomer, will seek his music out because of this.

ShellyMcG said:

Kares said:

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My thoughts:
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As I said before, I seriously doubt P would've liked this show. I know it's popular, but it's the kind of trash P must've thought about when he wrote the first part of 'One Song' (the part I quoted before on this thread).
Of course P has licensed his music to movies several times, so I'm not saying it's wrong to do that IF the movie in question deserves it, but there is a difference between "selling" 'Ripopgodazippa', 'Song Of The Heart', 'Get Wild' etc, etc – and the single most important, emblematic, career-defining song of his entire life, 'Purple Rain'. I guess you'll agree with me that he would've been a "little more" careful about which production he allows 'Purple Rain' to be associated with.
AND I bet he would've made damn sure that the edit the fim required is done in a way that makes sense musically too. The way 'Purple Rain' was butchered in this thing is anything but professional or musical.
.
Now, regarding the business side of things:
No-one is saying the estate shouldn't make licensing deals that leads to P being introduced to younger generations too. Of course I'm all for that too. But as they claim to protect the artistic integrity of P's legacy so vehemently sometimes, perhaps they could've applied similar precautions about this request too. They could've chosen another popular movie or series. They could've chosen another song.
.
And there's also this profession called marketing, with some set rules and plenty of best practices that are being taught worldwide. One of these basic rules is that if you do a promotion (such as placing a song in a movie) and you're expecting to generate a ton of leads (interest in your product), then it's only trivial that you bloody well make sure you HAVE a product these leads can land on.
The Estate, in all their self-proclaimed business-wisdom, couldn't achieve a simple agreement with Warners to have the 'Purple Rain' official video on YT so that all these young kids who watched the show could watch Prince performing the song too. Instead, they resorted to uploading the audio only, with some looped, meaningless visuals.
This is such a stupid mistake that it could almost negate the entire deal – and the song they sacrificed in the process is the most important song of P's career.

.

I have no doubt that Prince would not have liked Stranger Things. Men in their 60s may enjoy this show, but they are certainly not the target demographic. Having said that, Prince was a fan of that ghastly New Girl show. And that's one of the worst things I've ever seen. So you never know. The editing of Purple Rain was really weird and for someone who has heard that song hundreds of times, it felt very jarring to hear how it was edited. Or "butchered", as you might say. But it fit the scene for which it was used so I can kind of get over that. As for the marketing thing, yeah I agree. They knew this episode was coming and they knew the potential impact it would have on Prince's streaming figures and sales. Like I've said already on here, if I were in charge, I would have had the mythical Purple Rain Super Deluxe Edition ready to go. New fans get to experience a newly released Purple Rain package and us existing fans get some unreleased vault tracks we haven't heard before. But they didn't do that. Which, given how they've run things up to now, is not really a big surprise. So yeah, us fans don't benefit from this renewed interest in Prince. Oh well. We're still no worse off than we were before. But at least younger generations now have an entry point into Prince-world.

Prince wasn 't a fan of New Girl, thats what was said later after he already was on there.
Hannah and Donna were fans who watcdhed it on the tourbus and Prince caught them watching and they joked that he should be on there because it was a great show or something and he did, for a big paycheck and his rules.

FrankieCoco1 said:

Prince wasn’t averse to his music in movies and shows over the years and decades: Sexy Dancer & Sexuality in Summer Lovers DMSR in Risky Business Nasty Girl in Beverly Hills Cop Good Love in Bright Lights, Big City A few in Batman Gett Off in The Last Boy Scout Superhero in Blankman Get Wild in Pret-A-Porter Loads of songs in Girl 6 319 in Showgirls 2045: Radical Man in Bamboozled Song of the Heart in Happy Feet Fallinlove2nite in New Girl I’ve probably missed a few. [Edited 1/8/26 0:43am] [Edited 1/8/26 0:52am] [Edited 1/8/26 0:55am]

There was a cover version of "Private Joy" in Weird Science.

JorisE73 said:

ShellyMcG said:

Kares said: I have no doubt that Prince would not have liked Stranger Things. Men in their 60s may enjoy this show, but they are certainly not the target demographic. Having said that, Prince was a fan of that ghastly New Girl show. And that's one of the worst things I've ever seen. So you never know. The editing of Purple Rain was really weird and for someone who has heard that song hundreds of times, it felt very jarring to hear how it was edited. Or "butchered", as you might say. But it fit the scene for which it was used so I can kind of get over that. As for the marketing thing, yeah I agree. They knew this episode was coming and they knew the potential impact it would have on Prince's streaming figures and sales. Like I've said already on here, if I were in charge, I would have had the mythical Purple Rain Super Deluxe Edition ready to go. New fans get to experience a newly released Purple Rain package and us existing fans get some unreleased vault tracks we haven't heard before. But they didn't do that. Which, given how they've run things up to now, is not really a big surprise. So yeah, us fans don't benefit from this renewed interest in Prince. Oh well. We're still no worse off than we were before. But at least younger generations now have an entry point into Prince-world.

Prince wasn 't a fan of New Girl, thats what was said later after he already was on there.
Hannah and Donna were fans who watcdhed it on the tourbus and Prince caught them watching and they joked that he should be on there because it was a great show or something and he did, for a big paycheck and his rules.

Actually one of the actresses (the tall one he plays ping pong with in the end) said that he only got on there because he had a crush on her was trying to get with her.

JorisE73 said:

I didn't know that. I only heard Zooey Deschanel talking about it and she said he was a fan of the show. Where did you see that about it being like a joke or something? I'd like to read that. It would make me feel better to know that he didn't actually like that terrible, unfunny show

paisleyparkgirl said:

Sounds like she has a big ego

ShellyMcG said:

JorisE73 said:

Prince wasn 't a fan of New Girl, thats what was said later after he already was on there.
Hannah and Donna were fans who watcdhed it on the tourbus and Prince caught them watching and they joked that he should be on there because it was a great show or something and he did, for a big paycheck and his rules.

I didn't know that. I only heard Zooey Deschanel talking about it and she said he was a fan of the show. Where did you see that about it being like a joke or something? I'd like to read that. It would make me feel better to know that he didn't actually like that terrible, unfunny show

Donna or Hannah posted about it and talked about in in a interview when asked, I think they are on some social media sites like facebook or whatever so maybe ask them there?

ShellyMcG said:

Releasing new vault material is a risky move because Prince is not Michael Jackson or Bruce Springsteen. He's just not that popular or well known. That's a fact. As much as I want it, there is no guarantee a collection of outtakes will sell in big numbers.

The majority of Prince's albums were not that popular when they were originally released (in the USA). He wasn't like Bon Jovi or Whitney Houston who had consistantly blockbuster sales or Madonna who had many consecutiveTop 10 hits on the Hot 100. The general public has never been interested in unreleased songs. They aren't even interested in the albums, that's why Greatest Hits/Best Of albums are popular. The mainstream are mainly interested in the songs they heard on the radio. Some acts Greatest Hits have sold way more than any of their original albums like The Carpenters, Johnny Mathis, Eagles, Queen, etc. With today's audience, most don't buy physical media, no matter what it is. Best Buy stopped selling DVDs/Blu Ray. They carry a few record albums. Event Walmart has a small CD & DVD section. With music reation videos on Youtube, most of the songs are old hits, because that's what people are requesting. If they react to album tracks, those don't get the same amount of views, unless it's The Beatles

JorisE73 said:

I don't really use social media anymore. I only really used Facebook to chat to my mum back in Australia but we just talk on Whatsapp now. It's ok, I'm sure I can find a quote or something from somewhere. To be honest, I'm inclined to just take your word for it anyway. I'd rather believe Prince had higher standards than New Girl

JorisE73 said:

nothing's really serious on the internet

Many people being harassed or bullied online would disagree. That's just one of many examples.

Maybe you meant that people shouldn't take you seriously?

MickyDolenz said:

No, he wasn't like those artists. A more apt comparison would be frank zappa, another prolific, genius level musician whose estate manages to garner voluminous praise and appreciation from his fans for the consistent and numerous archival releases of his material on physical media. All with little to no marketing. Because the fans matter.

peedub said:

No, he wasn't like those artists. A more apt comparison would be frank zappa, another prolific, genius level musician whose estate manages to garner voluminous praise and appreciation from his fans for the consistent and numerous archival releases of his material on physical media. All with little to no marketing. Because the fans matter.

Frank Zappa never had any big hits or large album sales. So he was basically an obscure cult artist anyway. Michael Jackson has fans that go to see stage plays & Circe du Soleil shows about him that make millions of dollars. There are movies that are not directly about The Beatles, but has their music (Yesterday, All This And WWII, Across The Universe). They even have a movie called Nowhere Boy about teenage John Lennon. Right now there are 4 individual Beatle biopics in production.

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I would think some of Prince's music has a more mainstream appeal than Frank Zappa, so his estate is marketing him like that. Most of the time when Prince is featured in manstream media, it's the 1999/Purple Rain era look. Same for people doing cosplay as Prince. So I would think that the estate is going for something that would make the most money, and that would be mid-1980s Prince. Past the 1980s the most successful Prince album is Diamond & Pearls. Which had Michael Jackson's manager Frank Dileo behind it.

From POPBASE (charts data page) today:
Purple Rain’ by Prince reaches a new peak of #29 (+4) on the Global Spotify chart with 2.27 million streams, over 40 years after its release.

It also rises to a new peak of #13 (+2) on the US Spotify chart with 718k streams.

“Purple Rain will be forgotten in the upcoming days”. The song is still trending on TikTok and is still charting. Prince has the most negative fanbase.

TrivialPursuit said:

FrankieCoco1 said:

Prince wasn’t averse to his music in movies and shows over the years and decades:

Sexy Dancer & Sexuality in Summer Lovers
DMSR in Risky Business
Nasty Girl in Beverly Hills Cop
Good Love in Bright Lights, Big City
A few in Batman
Gett Off in The Last Boy Scout
Superhero in Blankman
Get Wild in Pret-A-Porter
Loads of songs in Girl 6
Ripopgodazippa, 319 in Showgirls
2045: Radical Man in Bamboozled
Song of the Heart in Happy Feet
Fallinlove2nite in New Girl

I’ve probably missed a few.

"Head" - Waiting to Exhale
"When Doves Cry" / "Little Red Corvette" (x2) / Knight Rider
"17 Days" (1983 piano) / "Musicology" - Queer

"Raspberry Beret" - Dark Matter

"Let's Go Crazy" - Sing 2

"Nasty Girl" / "Sugar Walls" / "A Love Bizarre" / "Nothing Compares 2 U" / "Sometimes It Snows in April" / "Kiss" - Pose

"Gett Off" - Coming 2 America

tons of songs in the series She's Gotta Have It

"I Wanna Be Your Lover" - Ready Player One

"Nothing Compares 2 U" - This Is Us

"Delirious" - Scandal

"Trust" / "Nothing Compares 2 U - American Dad

"PretzelBodyLogic" - The Good Wife

"If I Was Your Girlfriend" - Striptease

....to name a few more.

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John Candy's Delirious movie was one of the first times I heard Prince as a kid.

Strawberrylova123 said:

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Strawberrylova123 said:

In the meanwhile, the number of monthly listeners on Spotify has grown by 6 millions in less than 7 days. Now it's around 17,5 millions and still growing up.

MickyDolenz said:

I'm not concerned with Prince's mainstream appeal. All I'm interested in is the estate realizing that mainstream appeal is not a prerequisite for successful releases of archival material, as obscure cult artist frank zappa's estate has proven. I don't know what Michael Jackson or the Beatles or circuses or the 80s or cosplay has to do with anything I'm talking about. You're talking pop stars. I'm talking musicians.

NoSwan said:

Thanks to primary Wave for getting this done. Great business move.