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What other 80's album has a killer one-side opener and closer??? Welcome to "the org", nayroo2002… life, it ain't real funky unless it's got that pop |
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What other 80's album has a killer one-side opener and closer??? Two albums that come to mind are: Paul Simon - Graceland (The Boy in the Bubble and Diamonds on the Souls of her Shoes) Michael Jackson - Thriller ( Wanna Be Startin’ Something and Thriller) They are both Side One examples. I can’t think of a Side Two example that competes with When Doves Cry / Purple Rain. | |
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Close: "Dangerous" Open: "Holiday" Close: "Everybody"
Side 2. Open: "Another Part of Me" Close: "Smooth Criminal" Every day when I awake, the greatest of joys is mine: that of being ME. |
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Purple Rain streaming numbers are through the roof. Yesterday on the Spotify charts, it finally made iit's debut at #175. Today it has lept to #24! | |
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I think Prince would have loved this series, especially Eleven as a character. He seemed like he was tuning out of that Jehovah cult towards the end of his life so i’m sure if he started watching, he would have gotten hooked and become a fan if he were still here | |
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She says in the article that the other potential album was a 70's artist so I don't think your guesses are on point. 🙂 | |
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That's quite an odd take. Prince's position is secure in the sense that when someone reads about 80s music, he will be part of it. But his legacy only lives on if people actually listen to his music. Can you think of a better way of more people, and more young people, discovering his music around the world? I'm not sure why you don't care that young people listen to his music. Do you want to gatekeep his music? Surely, the more people who listen, the better? . For Kate Bush, there are 8, 9, 10, 13, 15 year old kids who are now listening to her music (many with actual Walkmans) that would not have otherwise. And many adults who were not aware of her. They will take that with them for the rest of the their lives. Her legacy benefits as a direct result of one song being included in Stranger Things. |
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Dangerous is not an 80s album |
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That's quite an odd take. Prince's position is secure in the sense that when someone reads about 80s music, he will be part of it. But his legacy only lives on if people actually listen to his music. Can you think of a better way of more people, and more young people, discovering his music around the world? I'm not sure why you don't care that young people listen to his music. Do you want to gatekeep his music? Surely, the more people who listen, the better? . For Kate Bush, there are 8, 9, 10, 13, 15 year old kids who are now listening to her music (many with actual Walkmans) that would not have otherwise. And many adults who were not aware of her. They will take that with them for the rest of the their lives. Her legacy benefits as a direct result of one song being included in Stranger Things. Yeah, good for them, I guess. No, it's not about gatekeeping. As I said, I don't care who listens or when or how they discovered something or how many they are. I've done my time spreading the gospel of prince. I don't concern myself with his legacy, these days, beyond my distaste for those who exploit it. My only concern now is what I want. If those in control want to sell more purple rains, I'll be over here buying records that haven't already been on my shelf for 40 years. There are artists over here who realize and acknowledge that the fans who got them through the lean (or not so lean) years are still here, won't be for much longer and will lose interest in the meantime with rehashes of what they've already experienced. I've absorbed purple rain. Seeing someone on a hit TV show listen to purple rain or dancing to purple rain or hanging a purple rain poster on their wall or cooking to purple rain or destroying evil to purple rain doesn't put unheard prince music in my ears. And I miss having unheard prince music being put in my ears. That's (for the most part) all prince was ever about to me. |
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This is the only place I've read about this, so I can't say its penetration has been anywhere near the Kate Bush track. | |
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ShellyMcG said: peedub said: Prince's position in the annals of pop music is already secure. I couldn't care less how or when young people are exposed to his music, or even if they are. Personally, I find the whole 'playing for clicks' vibe of licensing art for exposure rather distasteful. Ultimately, it's only about lining pockets (and maybe a viral tik tok or two). Prince ain't got pockets, so big whoop; curious though, I am, to see what a spike in income might finance through the estate. I suspect very little. I'd also be curious about the near/long term ramifications of Kate bush's inclusion on hit TV show 'stranger things'' soundtrack. Again, I suspect very little. Anyhow...good for 'stranger things', good for Netflix, good for young people, good for the estate. And good pull with churlish. I just want what I want. Everything else is a distraction. More exposure = more fans More fans = more demand More demand = more releases More releases = happy Hannah Can you direct me to an example where this equation has bourne out? |
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NouveauDance said: This is the only place I've read about this, so I can't say its penetration has been anywhere near the Kate Bush track. Trivial posted a link to an article in Variety about it. So you could read more about it there. But even if it didn't have the same kind of impact as the Kate Bush song, it has still raised Prince's profile amongst the kids. Gen Z streams of Purple Rain up by over 500%. Prince streams in general has seen a noticeable bump across different streaming services. No need to compare it to what Kate Bush had. It's not a competition. Just take it for what it is, a rare positive piece of news for Prince. | |
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The main reason the Kate Bush comparison isn't apt is because she was a cult artist and even music fans from the 80's were ALL super aware of "Running Up the Hill." Stranger Things helped that song become more popular than it ever had been. Purple Rain on the other hand is Beatles levels of popularity and acclaim so, while it may be introducing a new generation to Prince, it's not really the same thing as the Kate Busch revival because Prince was always "bigger" in culture than Kate Bush. "New Power slide...." | |
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peedub said: ShellyMcG said: More exposure = more fans More fans = more demand More demand = more releases More releases = happy Hannah Can you direct me to an example where this equation has bourne out? Are you seriously incapable of following the logic behind the post? Or are you just trying desperately to see the negative aspects of Prince's music being used in the finale of one of the biggest TV shows in years? But if you're really struggling to understand what I'm saying, then allow me to spell it out for you; More exposure - Let's take Queen, as an example. The Freddie Mercury movie gave their music a lot more exposure to younger audiences who would otherwise only know one or two of their songs. (Similar to how Stranger Things introduced Prince to young people who don't know who Prince is). More fans - Due to the above exposure, Queen record sales rose by almost 500% in the months following the movie's release.(Similarly, Purple Rain streams rose by over 500% amongst the youth following the Stranger Things finale). More Demand - Due to the increase of fans, the demand was there for a soundtrack album which led to massive sales for Queen, not just of the soundtrack album itself but also from their back catalogue. (Prince streams are up across the board since the finale of Stranger Things, not just for Purple Rain) More releases - Unfortunately for Queen, they were not sitting on a treasure trove of unreleased recordings so they were not able to take advantage of the increased demand for their music outside of selling a shitload of Greatest Hits and legacy albums from their back catalogue. But if they did have a "new" album of unreleased material to bring out at that time, it doesn't take a genius to work out that it would have sold in decent numbers. (Fortunately for us, Prince DOES have a treasure trove of unreleased material and, thanks to Stranger Things, a growing fanbase who wants to hear it). Happy Hannah - I personally couldn't give a toss about Queen or any of their music. So if they did release a new record, it wouldn't matter to me. (But I am a Prince fan so if a new Prince album comes out, then I'll be very happy indeed). Do you get it now? Or do you need me to use crayons?  | |
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ShellyMcG said: peedub said: Can you direct me to an example where this equation has bourne out? Are you seriously incapable of following the logic behind the post? Or are you just trying desperately to see the negative aspects of Prince's music being used in the finale of one of the biggest TV shows in years? But if you're really struggling to understand what I'm saying, then allow me to spell it out for you; More exposure - Let's take Queen, as an example. The Freddie Mercury movie gave their music a lot more exposure to younger audiences who would otherwise only know one or two of their songs. (Similar to how Stranger Things introduced Prince to young people who don't know who Prince is). More fans - Due to the above exposure, Queen record sales rose by almost 500% in the months following the movie's release.(Similarly, Purple Rain streams rose by over 500% amongst the youth following the Stranger Things finale). More Demand - Due to the increase of fans, the demand was there for a soundtrack album which led to massive sales for Queen, not just of the soundtrack album itself but also from their back catalogue. (Prince streams are up across the board since the finale of Stranger Things, not just for Purple Rain) More releases - Unfortunately for Queen, they were not sitting on a treasure trove of unreleased recordings so they were not able to take advantage of the increased demand for their music outside of selling a shitload of Greatest Hits and legacy albums from their back catalogue. But if they did have a "new" album of unreleased material to bring out at that time, it doesn't take a genius to work out that it would have sold in decent numbers. (Fortunately for us, Prince DOES have a treasure trove of unreleased material and, thanks to Stranger Things, a growing fanbase who wants to hear it). Happy Hannah - I personally couldn't give a toss about Queen or any of their music. So if they did release a new record, it wouldn't matter to me. (But I am a Prince fan so if a new Prince album comes out, then I'll be very happy indeed). Do you get it now? Or do you need me to use crayons? I follow the logic. I never didn't get it. And I have no interest in increased sales of Prince's back catalog. It doesn't serve me at all. If increased sales finance the release of previously unheard music, I'll express my positivity then. Dozens of artists (including those responsible for posthumous prince releases) have proven that the release of archival music is not dependent on increased catalog sales, streaming spikes or new audience influx. Artists/estates that respect/indulge their fanbase. Meanwhile, we get iteration after iteration of Prince's most recognizable, popular, known commodity. An assured payday for the estate. New fans get an entire rich catalog to explore. Good for them. What work is being done to serve the veterans? I'm not being negative, I just don't share your enthusiasm. |
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You're just a selfish fan. Prince didn't like fans like you. Only thinking about what YOU can get from him. |
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paisleyparkgirl said:
You're just a selfish fan. Prince didn't like fans like you. Only thinking about what YOU can get from him. Uh huh. Cuz Prince saved his love for those that exploited his artistry to line their pockets. I don't feel compelled to justify my fandom. |
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Every day when I awake, the greatest of joys is mine: that of being ME. |
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https://variety.com/2026/music/news/prince-spotify-streams-double-stranger-things-finale-1236622410/?fbclid=IwY2xjawPHuflleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZBAyMjIwMzkxNzg4MjAwODkyAAEe1rdv6bcSbea0snY7HwGROSwHIqk7EUsIxPYY6CeY76lOOkAw2Qej1FL26M0_aem_vuLSwtAP1ckQrjaqR0WNRw | |
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NouveauDance said: This is the only place I've read about this, so I can't say its penetration has been anywhere near the Kate Bush track. “Purple Rain” debuted at #65 on the global Spotify chart yesterday with 1.7 million streams and was as high as #24 in the U.S. and the UK. Today, it has climbed to #38 on the global chart with nearly 2 million streams and is at #14 in the U.S. and #17 in the UK. This isn’t quite Kate Bush level, but it is huge. “Purple Rain” had been averaging between 200K-250K streams daily prior to this, so we are looking at about an 8x increase. That is quite impressive. “When Doves Cry” is also doing quite well, with over 630K streams yesterday compared to averages around 120K—140K prior, and it has now debuted at #171 on the UK Spotify chart. “Purple Rain” seems on track to reappear on the Hot 100 next week. That would be only the third 80s song to rechart from Stranger Things after “Running Up That Hill” and “Master of Puppets”. It’s doing really, really well. Feel free to join in the Prince Album Poll 2018! Let'a celebrate his legacy by counting down the most beloved Prince albums, as decided by you! | |
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peedub said: ShellyMcG said: Are you seriously incapable of following the logic behind the post? Or are you just trying desperately to see the negative aspects of Prince's music being used in the finale of one of the biggest TV shows in years? But if you're really struggling to understand what I'm saying, then allow me to spell it out for you; More exposure - Let's take Queen, as an example. The Freddie Mercury movie gave their music a lot more exposure to younger audiences who would otherwise only know one or two of their songs. (Similar to how Stranger Things introduced Prince to young people who don't know who Prince is). More fans - Due to the above exposure, Queen record sales rose by almost 500% in the months following the movie's release.(Similarly, Purple Rain streams rose by over 500% amongst the youth following the Stranger Things finale). More Demand - Due to the increase of fans, the demand was there for a soundtrack album which led to massive sales for Queen, not just of the soundtrack album itself but also from their back catalogue. (Prince streams are up across the board since the finale of Stranger Things, not just for Purple Rain) More releases - Unfortunately for Queen, they were not sitting on a treasure trove of unreleased recordings so they were not able to take advantage of the increased demand for their music outside of selling a shitload of Greatest Hits and legacy albums from their back catalogue. But if they did have a "new" album of unreleased material to bring out at that time, it doesn't take a genius to work out that it would have sold in decent numbers. (Fortunately for us, Prince DOES have a treasure trove of unreleased material and, thanks to Stranger Things, a growing fanbase who wants to hear it). Happy Hannah - I personally couldn't give a toss about Queen or any of their music. So if they did release a new record, it wouldn't matter to me. (But I am a Prince fan so if a new Prince album comes out, then I'll be very happy indeed). Do you get it now? Or do you need me to use crayons? I follow the logic. I never didn't get it. And I have no interest in increased sales of Prince's back catalog. It doesn't serve me at all. If increased sales finance the release of previously unheard music, I'll express my positivity then. Dozens of artists (including those responsible for posthumous prince releases) have proven that the release of archival music is not dependent on increased catalog sales, streaming spikes or new audience influx. Artists/estates that respect/indulge their fanbase. Meanwhile, we get iteration after iteration of Prince's most recognizable, popular, known commodity. An assured payday for the estate. New fans get an entire rich catalog to explore. Good for them. What work is being done to serve the veterans? I'm not being negative, I just don't share your enthusiasm. I think you need to go back and read my original post again. All of it this time. I specifically said the "POSSIBLE positives outweigh the negatives". I'm not saying it's an absolute guarantee that two songs appearing in Stranger Things will lead to the Prince Estate opening up the vault. But it's a start. More fans will lead to more demand. That's common sense. More demand should encourage the estate to release more music. It's not a guarantee and it doesn't mean I'm "enthusiastic" about it. But considering we've just had one of the worst years in Prince fandom ever, with zero new releases, a ridiculously priced "Celebration" and a remaster of an album very few actual fans even seem to care about then it's worth looking at the positives rather than focusing on the negatives. Life must be really fucking miserable if you only think about the negatives all the time. The bump in Prince interest from Gen Z might lead to nothing. And if it does then we're no worse off than we are now. And Prince gaining new fans might mean nothing to you or me but it's not a bad thing right? No need to be so negative about it. And if it is the beginning of Prince's music being made more widely known and it leads to any new releases in future then that's even better. Again, no need for all the negativity. | |
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Prince’s catalogue seems to be getting a boost as well!
The site kworb.net tracks Spotify and YouTube plays. I’ve been checking it daily since the Stranger Things finale. Prince’s figures didn’t update for 5 days but they have up to yesterday’s totals, representing a 4-day range. Here is how Prince’s streams yesterday compare to the previous 4-day average: Purple Rain: 1,993,936 yesterday vs 806,430 4-day average: 147.3% increase Kiss: 382,079 yesterday vs 409,285 4-day average: 6.6% decrease When Doves Cry: 633,602 yesterday vs 295,285 4-day average: 114.6% increase Raspberry Beret: 143,288 yesterday vs 113,775 4-day average: 25.9% increase Let’s Go Crazy: 134,238 yesterday vs 90,730 4-day average: 48.0% increase I Wanna Be Your Lover: 69,463 yesterday vs 63,206 4-day average: 9.9% increase 1999: 69,696 yesterday vs 70,897 4-day average: 1.7% decrease Little Red Corvette: 52,875 yesterday vs 42,460 average: 24.5% increase I Would Die 4 U: 73,522 yesterday vs 44,374 4-day average: 65.7% increase The Most Beautiful Girl in the World: 32,747 yesterday vs 26,413 4-day average: 24.0% increase The 4-day average already includes some of the Stranger Things boost, so these are underestimating the normal increases. “Kiss” and “1999” stand out as decreases but they have prominent places on New Year’s Eve playlists and that effect would have dissipated. Both are well above their normal 200-250K for “Kiss” and 40K for “1999”. The bounce is most notable for Purple Rain songs, but it extends throughout his top 10 most popular Spotify songs and likely well beyond. This shows why the inclusion of “When Doves Cry” and “Purple Rain” was so valuable: it has created a spike in interest in Prince and is likely introducing tens of thousands of new listeners to even the non-featured songs. I can’t see this as anything but a huge positive for Prince’s legacy. [Edited 1/4/26 23:56pm] Feel free to join in the Prince Album Poll 2018! Let'a celebrate his legacy by counting down the most beloved Prince albums, as decided by you! | |
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Prince wanted for his music to be known across generations. |
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Thank you to whoever at the Estate that made the decision to OK the use of these two classic Prince tracks in my favorite show ever. I love Eleven. That ending still wrecking me emotionally. She’s one of my favorite fictional characters | |
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I talk to fellow Stranger Things fans and many fell in love with Purple Rain when the finale aired. I encouraged them to check out the 1983 First Avenue recording of the song as that’s the album version aside from the few edits and string overdubs. Gotta show the people how much of a genius Prince was. If they’re intrigued by August 3rd 1983 show then they’ll be hooked for life | |
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They've got all these potential new fans in the palm of their hands and the best they can do is post this lame shit |
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bozojones said: They've got all these potential new fans in the palm of their hands and the best they can do is post this lame shit I'm more critical of the estate than most but what more would you realistically expect them to do? | |
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