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Thread started 09/23/25 1:12am

paisleyparkgir
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17 days extended version appreciation post.

How awesome is this version wow. I never cared for the song that much until I heard this version recently, it's the 11 minute one.

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Reply #1 posted 09/23/25 2:45am

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I have always loved the song.
This version made tears form in my eyes.
It's a mystery as to why it wasn't on PR Deluxe.
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Reply #2 posted 09/23/25 3:27am

bozojones

muleFunk said:

I have always loved the song. This version made tears form in my eyes. It's a mystery as to why it wasn't on PR Deluxe.


Because PR Deluxe was a slapdash set put together by Warner before the estate had any template for SDEs. It would have been nice to get a proper Purple Rain SDE last year with all the missing outtakes, but, well... you know how shit is with the bozos currently in charge lol

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Reply #3 posted 09/23/25 7:51am

JorisE73

muleFunk said:

I have always loved the song. This version made tears form in my eyes. It's a mystery as to why it wasn't on PR Deluxe.


Not a mystery but explained that WB didn't have the master because they send it back to Prince in the late 80s.

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Reply #4 posted 09/23/25 10:24am

dodger07

muleFunk said:

I have always loved the song. This version made tears form in my eyes. It's a mystery as to why it wasn't on PR Deluxe.

Must admit, hearing it go past the usual part where it fades out for the first time was a moment

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Reply #5 posted 09/23/25 1:04pm

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It's fantastic.
It floats in suspension and never lands.

Although I find Brenda saying "Vagina" kind of cringe, I think it's OK when done litteraly (Zappa's "Penis Dimensions", Cardi B's "W.A.P.", countless Prince's songs, etc.), I just wish he would have gone for a metaphor with a song carrying such melancholy.

He's always been great with sexual metaphors, or with saying it without saying it, so I'm puzzled as to why we're all of a sudden at the gynecologist.
That said, Brenda's computerized speech fits perfectly within "Computer Blue"’s Blade-Runnerish theme (« Poor Lonely Computer, it's time someone programs U... »).

It is a gem.

Hey, what's with this 11 minutes version? Mine clocks at seven and a half.


This young man with a talented soul died when he wanted 2
So he shall not B pitied, nor shall the guilty B forgiven
Until they find it in their hearts 2 Right the Wrong
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Reply #6 posted 09/23/25 1:32pm

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One of my top 4 Prince songs.

2 hear the extended version is so great : in good quality in top of that ! Thanks 2 the boots !!!!!

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Reply #7 posted 09/23/25 4:00pm

cb70

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Hey, what's with this 11 minutes version? Mine clocks at seven and a half.


The 7 minute is the real version. The 11 minute is fan-made.

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Reply #8 posted 09/23/25 4:30pm

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When this leaked I was puzzled: why did Prince choose to put the edit on the 12'' as well since there was room for a longer cut. Obviously because, for some reason, he must have thought the long version wasn't that good. And that certainly was his prerogative as an artist, but as a fan, it was a big WTF?! eek

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Reply #9 posted 09/23/25 4:32pm

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cb70 said:

BonnieC said:


Hey, what's with this 11 minutes version? Mine clocks at seven and a half.


The 7 minute is the real version. The 11 minute is fan-made.

Yeah, and that's why I've always been like, fuck those people ruining artists' legacies by putting fan edits online.

Usual response: "it don't matter, people will know what's real and what's not".

And as always, given we're on a hardcore Prince fanboard and this has happened countless times: no, they won't rolleyes

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Reply #10 posted 09/23/25 8:22pm

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Like mentioned by someone else before; Prince's extended versions were actually the original versions, that were edited to what we know as an original release. We barely ever get to hear the 'original' version as recorded in the first place, except when it is called 'extended' or whatever longer v ersion name. And then again... sometimes even that is edited...

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Reply #11 posted 09/23/25 8:36pm

databank

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Vannormal said:

Like mentioned by He Who Walks Behind the Rows; Prince's extended versions were actually the original versions, that were edited to what we know as an original release. We barely ever get to hear the 'original' version as recorded in the first place, except when it is called 'extended' or whatever longer v ersion name. And then again... sometimes even that is edited...

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Reply #12 posted 09/24/25 9:52am

pdiddy2011

databank said:

Vannormal said:

Like mentioned by He Who Walks Behind the Rows; Prince's extended versions were actually the original versions, that were edited to what we know as an original release. We barely ever get to hear the 'original' version as recorded in the first place, except when it is called 'extended' or whatever longer v ersion name. And then again... sometimes even that is edited...

I love 17 Days, so I'm looking forward to getting my hands on and hearing the 7 min version - if I don't already have it tucked away somewhere.

Off subject -- how cool is this comprehensive Prince discography? I'm awed by what it must have taken just to logically articulate the FAQ's on the mainpage! Thanks, databank, this is incredible - in scope and service!

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Reply #13 posted 09/24/25 12:42pm

themanfromnept
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databank said:

Vannormal said:

Like mentioned by He Who Walks Behind the Rows; Prince's extended versions were actually the original versions, that were edited to what we know as an original release. We barely ever get to hear the 'original' version as recorded in the first place, except when it is called 'extended' or whatever longer v ersion name. And then again... sometimes even that is edited...

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Nice work for the site! BTW I take a look and in 1999 the "U'r still the one" on Love4oneanother, it seems me to remember it was a sample, not the entire stream. I have not the original realplay file, so I can be wrong.

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Reply #14 posted 09/24/25 1:01pm

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cb70 said:

BonnieC said:


Hey, what's with this 11 minutes version? Mine clocks at seven and a half.


The 7 minute is the real version. The 11 minute is fan-made.

Really ? It's not that different from the 7 minute version though. Just longer.

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Reply #15 posted 09/24/25 10:08pm

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JorisE73 said:

muleFunk said:

I have always loved the song. This version made tears form in my eyes. It's a mystery as to why it wasn't on PR Deluxe.


Not a mystery but explained that WB didn't have the master because they send it back to Prince in the late 80s.

Not quite the case.

WB did/do have the extended version in their vault, but the second half is just the instrumental. I'm assuming the ad-libs were added at a later date.

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Reply #16 posted 09/24/25 10:47pm

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pdiddy2011 said:

databank said:

I love 17 Days, so I'm looking forward to getting my hands on and hearing the 7 min version - if I don't already have it tucked away somewhere.

Off subject -- how cool is this comprehensive Prince discography? I'm awed by what it must have taken just to logically articulate the FAQ's on the mainpage! Thanks, databank, this is incredible - in scope and service!

Thanks a lot yes. Still a lot of work to do on it, sadly I don't have as much time to devote to it as I used to, but I keep adding and correcting entries regularly.

And yeah, figuring out a system and explaining it on the front page was quite the headache cool

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Reply #17 posted 09/24/25 10:51pm

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themanfromneptune said:

databank said:

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Nice work for the site! BTW I take a look and in 1999 the "U'r still the one" on Love4oneanother, it seems me to remember it was a sample, not the entire stream. I have not the original realplay file, so I can be wrong.

Thanks a lot for the feedback. I do have the file and it's the whole song, which (I just checked for good measure) is corroborated by Princevault. That said, a project of this scope is bond to contain mistakes. Many have been corrected over the years thanks to contributors like you, so please always feel free to let me know if you think you spotted an error. Such contributions are much welcome yes

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Reply #18 posted 09/25/25 5:27am

themanfromnept
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databank said:

themanfromneptune said:

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Nice work for the site! BTW I take a look and in 1999 the "U'r still the one" on Love4oneanother, it seems me to remember it was a sample, not the entire stream. I have not the original realplay file, so I can be wrong.

Thanks a lot for the feedback. I do have the file and it's the whole song, which (I just checked for good measure) is corroborated by Princevault. That said, a project of this scope is bond to contain mistakes. Many have been corrected over the years thanks to contributors like you, so please always feel free to let me know if you think you spotted an error. Such contributions are much welcome yes

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Thnak you for the answer! Now, I don't want to dwell on this, because it's such an insignificant piece of information, but I checked out the Prince blog I was running at the time. And on January 26th, I noted that two new samples, "U'r Still the One" and "Madrid 2 Chicago," were added to Prince's official website, with a brief description of each. If either of them had been a full song, I would have definitely specified that. I think the file you have is the one posted online a few years later on the new website. Princevault is confusing the two releases, IMHO.

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Reply #19 posted 09/25/25 8:01am

JorisE73

bluegangsta said:

JorisE73 said:


Not a mystery but explained that WB didn't have the master because they send it back to Prince in the late 80s.

Not quite the case.

WB did/do have the extended version in their vault, but the second half is just the instrumental. I'm assuming the ad-libs were added at a later date.


Oh, did they say why they didn't include it?

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Reply #20 posted 09/25/25 12:30pm

FrankieCoco1

JorisE73 said:



bluegangsta said:




JorisE73 said:




Not a mystery but explained that WB didn't have the master because they send it back to Prince in the late 80s.



Not quite the case.

WB did/do have the extended version in their vault, but the second half is just the instrumental. I'm assuming the ad-libs were added at a later date.




Oh, did they say why they didn't include it?



Maybe the ad libs (e.g. Brenda’s bits) were taken off rather than added!
There may or may not be something coming!
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Reply #21 posted 09/25/25 2:05pm

andrewm7new

I'm still appreciative of the seven min version that leaked smile

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Reply #22 posted 09/25/25 2:40pm

databank

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themanfromneptune said:

databank said:

Thanks a lot for the feedback. I do have the file and it's the whole song, which (I just checked for good measure) is corroborated by Princevault. That said, a project of this scope is bond to contain mistakes. Many have been corrected over the years thanks to contributors like you, so please always feel free to let me know if you think you spotted an error. Such contributions are much welcome yes

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Thnak you for the answer! Now, I don't want to dwell on this, because it's such an insignificant piece of information, but I checked out the Prince blog I was running at the time. And on January 26th, I noted that two new samples, "U'r Still the One" and "Madrid 2 Chicago," were added to Prince's official website, with a brief description of each. If either of them had been a full song, I would have definitely specified that. I think the file you have is the one posted online a few years later on the new website. Princevault is confusing the two releases, IMHO.

There's no insignificant piece of information with this project, I really aim for accuracy as much as possible, so your feedback is truly useful.

I just looked for more information in the Vault book, Uptown mag, Dawnation (the latter was a very useful source of info regarding this era's online streams and releases) and Google, but to no avail.

That said, it makes perfect sense that U're Still The One would be a snippet since M2C was.

I just asked a fan I know who maintained detailed logs on those streams and recently sent me lots of corrections I still have to implement, let's see what they reply. I'll let you know.

I would also be quite interested in a link for your blog (there may be other useful info there if you did it in real time nod ).

And the question remains: if it was a snippet, what was the date for the whole song's stream, then (which, I suppose, would have taken place on NPGLtdOnline)?

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Reply #23 posted 09/25/25 9:55pm

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FrankieCoco1 said:

JorisE73 said:

Oh, did they say why they didn't include it?

Maybe the ad libs (e.g. Brenda’s bits) were taken off rather than added!

That could also be the case - personally, I find the leaked version to be too repetitious. Where as the mix without the vocal in the second half leet the instruments breathe more.

As far as I'm aware, there's never been any talk about why it wasn't included. There were also other tracks in WBs Vault that could have been included, but weren't.

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Reply #24 posted 09/27/25 6:59am

themanfromnept
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databank said:

themanfromneptune said:

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Thnak you for the answer! Now, I don't want to dwell on this, because it's such an insignificant piece of information, but I checked out the Prince blog I was running at the time. And on January 26th, I noted that two new samples, "U'r Still the One" and "Madrid 2 Chicago," were added to Prince's official website, with a brief description of each. If either of them had been a full song, I would have definitely specified that. I think the file you have is the one posted online a few years later on the new website. Princevault is confusing the two releases, IMHO.

There's no insignificant piece of information with this project, I really aim for accuracy as much as possible, so your feedback is truly useful.

I just looked for more information in the Vault book, Uptown mag, Dawnation (the latter was a very useful source of info regarding this era's online streams and releases) and Google, but to no avail.

That said, it makes perfect sense that U're Still The One would be a snippet since M2C was.

I just asked a fan I know who maintained detailed logs on those streams and recently sent me lots of corrections I still have to implement, let's see what they reply. I'll let you know.

I would also be quite interested in a link for your blog (there may be other useful info there if you did it in real time nod ).

And the question remains: if it was a snippet, what was the date for the whole song's stream, then (which, I suppose, would have taken place on NPGLtdOnline)?

.

Thank you, let me know.

You can see something of my old blog called O)+>? in waybackmachine, i leave you a link to a random page, you can play with internal links or waybackmachine but you have to use a online translator too because it was writtine in italian language.

[Edited 9/27/25 7:02am]

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Reply #25 posted 09/29/25 8:00am

JorisE73

bluegangsta said:

FrankieCoco1 said:

JorisE73 said: Maybe the ad libs (e.g. Brenda’s bits) were taken off rather than added!

That could also be the case - personally, I find the leaked version to be too repetitious. Where as the mix without the vocal in the second half leet the instruments breathe more.

As far as I'm aware, there's never been any talk about why it wasn't included. There were also other tracks in WBs Vault that could have been included, but weren't.



Someone from the Estate said when Purple Rain Deluxe was released that the master for it wasn't found (yet?) and that WB send it back to Prince in the 90s along with other masters.

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Reply #26 posted 09/29/25 9:55pm

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JorisE73 said:

bluegangsta said:

That could also be the case - personally, I find the leaked version to be too repetitious. Where as the mix without the vocal in the second half leet the instruments breathe more.

As far as I'm aware, there's never been any talk about why it wasn't included. There were also other tracks in WBs Vault that could have been included, but weren't.

Someone from the Estate said when Purple Rain Deluxe was released that the master for it wasn't found (yet?) and that WB send it back to Prince in the 90s along with other masters.

It's fair to assume that they heard the version they had in the vault and thought it was incomplete. But, they also had a copy of the full Beautiful Ones, versions of Traffic Jam and a couple of unreleased songs. But they chose not to use that stuff, just like how they decided not to include another concert (as was in the original press release), which was likely the 84 First Avenue show.

While the situation with the Estate was a bit different, the Purple Rain release was intentionally scaled back.

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Reply #27 posted 10/04/25 4:37pm

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themanfromneptune said:

databank said:

There's no insignificant piece of information with this project, I really aim for accuracy as much as possible, so your feedback is truly useful.

I just looked for more information in the Vault book, Uptown mag, Dawnation (the latter was a very useful source of info regarding this era's online streams and releases) and Google, but to no avail.

That said, it makes perfect sense that U're Still The One would be a snippet since M2C was.

I just asked a fan I know who maintained detailed logs on those streams and recently sent me lots of corrections I still have to implement, let's see what they reply. I'll let you know.

I would also be quite interested in a link for your blog (there may be other useful info there if you did it in real time nod ).

And the question remains: if it was a snippet, what was the date for the whole song's stream, then (which, I suppose, would have taken place on NPGLtdOnline)?

.

Thank you, let me know.

You can see something of my old blog called O)+>? in waybackmachine, i leave you a link to a random page, you can play with internal links or waybackmachine but you have to use a online translator too because it was writtine in italian language.

[Edited 9/27/25 7:02am]

Thanks a lot. This may come handy when I factcheck some dates for the early Internet era.

My contact, who kept detailed logs of those days, tells me that as far as their notes say, it was always the whole song.

So I have 2 sources saying full song, one saying snippet. Of course, yours was contemporary, which gives it more weigth, but do you think it's possible you may have mistyped at the time?

In doubt and for the sake of accuracy, I did add a mention of your comment and the discrepency in the entry. It's possible that other people will be able to provide more information and, as with many little uncertainties I took note of on the website, I may also end-up finding a new source while turning the Internet upside down.

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