JorisE73 said:

Gooddoctor23 said:

Millions are being paid 4 catalogs and nobody is making $?

Stop the madness.

Teh SDEs didn't sell well.
Tehy should have released the D&P SDE in batches over 6 months or a year.

- The album + ALL singles remastered for $30
- Outtakes set for $30
- Music Video set + concert video and audio for $30

Then it would reach more fans with them being cheaper than that SDE set where the track are just wasted on because it's too expensive.

Hopefully this is the plan for ATWIAD (highly doubtful but if the estate is reading this, maybe this is a good release plan or strategy and I'm, willing to bet you would get alot of good will from the fans)

while i tend to agree can you quantify the above?

My take is that they need to up their marketing efforts big time

mattosgood said:

JorisE73 said:

Teh SDEs didn't sell well.
Tehy should have released the D&P SDE in batches over 6 months or a year.

- The album + ALL singles remastered for $30
- Outtakes set for $30
- Music Video set + concert video and audio for $30

Then it would reach more fans with them being cheaper than that SDE set where the track are just wasted on because it's too expensive.

Hopefully this is the plan for ATWIAD (highly doubtful but if the estate is reading this, maybe this is a good release plan or strategy and I'm, willing to bet you would get alot of good will from the fans)

while i tend to agree can you quantify the above?

My take is that they need to up their marketing efforts big time

Well, seeing all the overpriced SOTT and D&P SDEs in record stores just collecting dust says alot and some insiders told people about this. Teh SDEs don't make as much as they wanted and the production cost is just too high. So splitting it up over 3 months, 6 months or a year would make the set cheaper (tehy could also lose the book with irreleveant drivel from wokies or non associated comedians and rappers. A straight to the point booklet with information on all the recordings on the set from the people who were there is needed).
Marketing cost money so they would need to recoup that and that will then only drive the price up for the SDEs which are already waaaayyy overpriced

mattosgood said:

I don't speak for The Purple Stream - friends yes but I haven't been involved in what TPS posts for over a year now.

So the truth is that your Celebration Q&A report was in fact NOT first published on the Purple Stream a few months ago.

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maybe they are splitting up the SDE's ... official releases on vinyl .. outtakes and live shows on stand alone cd / dvd sets .. that would be cool ...

TrevorAyer said:

maybe they are splitting up the SDE's ... official releases on vinyl .. outtakes and live shows on stand alone cd / dvd sets .. that would be cool ...

That would be cool and make a lot of sense, but then why not communicate about that cool plan?

olb99 said:

TrevorAyer said:

maybe they are splitting up the SDE's ... official releases on vinyl .. outtakes and live shows on stand alone cd / dvd sets .. that would be cool ...

That would be cool and make a lot of sense, but then why not communicate about that cool plan?

Indeed, they cpuild easily gauge fan interest in that by just posting if they are planning something like this or not. Free hype and press, but I gues they don't want to make money

I'd be happy if the Estate begins issuing several small releases per year, rather than one large, expensive SDE. They could alternate between standalone remastered albums, vault collections and concerts.

With that said, I think it would have been preferable to lead off with an album of vault tracks, and then follow up in the spring with a remastered ATWIAD. After waiting two years, fans are starved for new music, not cleaned-up music.

Had they released a vault collection now and a remastered ATWIAD in the spring, I thinks fans would been much more grateful for ATWIAD deluxe. ATWIAD deluxe coming second would be viewed as an added bonus, rather than the lead album to end the two-year drought.

In other words, the order of releases could change perceptions and attitudes.

As they'll be celebrating the 30th year anniversary of The Gold Experience with "FROM THE VAULT" footage from the 95 tour next week at Paisley Park, they could redeem themselves if they released a box set with unreleased stuff from this era and album. Now that'd make me forget about ATWIAD...

lurker316 said:

I never thought thriller 40 would be surpassed but the prince estate really has phoned in this release.

scififilmnerd said:

mattosgood said:

I don't speak for The Purple Stream - friends yes but I haven't been involved in what TPS posts for over a year now.

So the truth is that your Celebration Q&A report was in fact NOT first published on the Purple Stream a few months ago.

[Edited 9/16/25 15:15pm]

I really not sure what you mean / your point?

"There's more than enough that they could (have) dump(ed) on there...
2 CDs worth of relevant Coleman sessions, 5 CDs worth of outtakes and, alternate versions of tracks, unreleased remixes, 12 inch version, b-sides, a complete alternate version of the album and even more...
Add to that that they could expand that album even further by adding another unreleased album and its sessions and incarnations, outtakes and even a wellknown live show or they could release that one like they did with "Welcome 2 America", as a separate release, but nobody was there to ask them or advise them what y'all would like to see... So, take it or leave it..." - Neversin, 09/06/2025 @ Discord

If the estate is losing money on SDEs of one of the most popular artists of the last century says a lot more about them then us fans.

in the last two weeks alone there have been announced:

Deluxe 7CD+blu-ray editio...easuredome
4CD+blu-ray SDE by The Ji...ve box set
5CD SDE for Little Feat's...cord Album
6CD set for a 1983 Album by Soft Cell
6CD box set for the 1985 ...ropaganda
4CD + Blu-Ray Super Delux...n Broadway
And of course a new 8CD box set by Bob Dylan ...ol. 18 (!)

Of course all these SDEs are released because you cannot make any money anymore with physical product? Ridiculous!

JorisE73 said:

Gooddoctor23 said:

Millions are being paid 4 catalogs and nobody is making $?

Stop the madness.

Teh SDEs didn't sell well.
Tehy should have released the D&P SDE in batches over 6 months or a year.

- The album + ALL singles remastered for $30
- Outtakes set for $30
- Music Video set + concert video and audio for $30

Then it would reach more fans with them being cheaper than that SDE set where the track are just wasted on because it's too expensive.

Hopefully this is the plan for ATWIAD (highly doubtful but if the estate is reading this, maybe this is a good release plan or strategy and I'm, willing to bet you would get alot of good will from the fans)

^^I agree.I'm tired of the lame excuse that "SDEs don't sell...don't make money" when we see all these other artists and bands having these big,lavish,multi-disc box sets coming out on a regular basis!

SoulAlive said:

^^I agree.I'm tired of the lame excuse that "SDEs don't sell...don't make money" when we see all these other artists and bands having these big,lavish,multi-disc box sets coming out on a regular basis!

yes because it's bullsh*t.

This Estate simply dont get a rats ass.

Gooddoctor23 said:

SoulAlive said:

^^I agree.I'm tired of the lame excuse that "SDEs don't sell...don't make money" when we see all these other artists and bands having these big,lavish,multi-disc box sets coming out on a regular basis!

yes because it's bullsh*t.

This Estate simply dont get a rats ass.

They're extremely incompetent.

If you don't like it, it's simple - put your money where your mouth is and don't buy it.

.

There's nothing new on it so you're not missing anything and 99% of us have it all in one form or another any way. If you really can't live without hearing it listen to it for free on the official youtube or spotify. There's no use bitching here and then slapping down the cash, the only form of feedback you have that is worth anything is your wallet.

NouveauDance said:

If you don't like it, it's simple - put your money where your mouth is and don't buy it.

.

There's nothing new on it so you're not missing anything and 99% of us have it all in one form or another any way. If you really can't live without hearing it listen to it for free on the official youtube or spotify. There's no use bitching here and then slapping down the cash, the only form of feedback you have that is worth anything is your wallet.

lol........the Estate needs 2 know that we know they are weak.

NouveauDance said:

SoulAlive said:

^^I agree.I'm tired of the lame excuse that "SDEs don't sell...don't make money" when we see all these other artists and bands having these big,lavish,multi-disc box sets coming out on a regular basis!

This is a 'fan' assumption, show me a single reference to where someone from The Estate has ever said this...

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ShellyMcG said:

Am I allowed to bitch about it if I also have no intention of buying it?

I'm no mod - you're allowed to do as you please.

NouveauDance said:

mattosgood said:

SoulAlive said:

^^I agree.I'm tired of the lame excuse that "SDEs don't sell...don't make money" when we see all these other artists and bands having these big,lavish,multi-disc box sets coming out on a regular basis!

This is a 'fan' assumption, show me a single reference to where someone from The Estate has ever said this...

No it's not. Neversin on Discord 17 June 2025: "They're still working on resolving shit first... Like I said 4 years ago, the "Super Deluxe Edition" is just throwing away money, plus they're still working on sorting everything in the vault... They have a lot of plans, including some great ones, but they can't just do anything y'all want because of the deals made previously... The format will be stripped down but to what degree is not known yet..." Well, now we know what it got stripped down to. Neversin on Discord 16 October 2024: "Prince's fanbase is one of the most, if not THE most, idiotic bunch of fuckups around... Complaining when something doesn't get released and complaining when something does get released..." Neversin on Discord 23 July 2024: "The SDE's don't make their money back, it's all the other shit they do that makes them money...". And that's more info than you deserve, disbeliever.

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scififilmnerd said:

mattosgood said:

This is a 'fan' assumption, show me a single reference to where someone from The Estate has ever said this...

No it's not. Neversin on Discord 17 June 2025: "They're still working on resolving shit first... Like I said 4 years ago, the "Super Deluxe Edition" is just throwing away money, plus they're still working on sorting everything in the vault... They have a lot of plans, including some great ones, but they can't just do anything y'all want because of the deals made previously... The format will be stripped down but to what degree is not known yet..." Well, now we know what it got stripped down to. Neversin on Discord 16 October 2024: "Prince's fanbase is one of the most, if not THE most, idiotic bunch of fuckups around... Complaining when something doesn't get released and complaining when something does get released..." Neversin on Discord 23 July 2024: "The SDE's don't make their money back, it's all the other shit they do that makes them money...". And that's more info than you deserve, disbeliever.

[Edited 9/22/25 18:43pm]

Sounds like a bunch of jibberish.........

Gooddoctor23 said:

scififilmnerd said:

No it's not. Neversin on Discord 17 June 2025: "They're still working on resolving shit first... Like I said 4 years ago, the "Super Deluxe Edition" is just throwing away money, plus they're still working on sorting everything in the vault... They have a lot of plans, including some great ones, but they can't just do anything y'all want because of the deals made previously... The format will be stripped down but to what degree is not known yet..." Well, now we know what it got stripped down to. Neversin on Discord 16 October 2024: "Prince's fanbase is one of the most, if not THE most, idiotic bunch of fuckups around... Complaining when something doesn't get released and complaining when something does get released..." Neversin on Discord 23 July 2024: "The SDE's don't make their money back, it's all the other shit they do that makes them money...". And that's more info than you deserve, disbeliever.

[Edited 9/22/25 18:43pm]

Sounds like a bunch of jibberish.........

Which part of "Prince's fanbase is one of the most, if not THE most, idiotic bunch of fuckups around" was gibberish to you?

[Edited 9/22/25 19:30pm]

Another interesting comment from Neversin on Discord 8 June 2025 about the Celebration Q&A: "There wasn't a single soul at the panel who had any relevant or good questions regarding what they were doing... They laid it up only for not 1 single "fan" to dunk it... They expected a real fan collective with interest and a list of interesting questions regarding the future of Prince releases and ideas... Noone delivered and as a result they haven't elaborated on anything and didn't even mention what they wanted to mention (...) So, obviously from their point of view, the interest just isn't there..."

So we gotta tell 'em what we want, y'all. With the outcry over ATWIAD not being a SDE, maybe they are taking that to heart and the Parade anniversary thing they talked about at the Q&A might become more than ATWIAD is.

They could skip the expensive packaging - I don't need no big book - and do it like the 2017 Purple Rain Deluxe.

[Edited 9/22/25 22:30pm]

scififilmnerd said: