FragileUndertow said:

Side note. Paisley Park (Remix) (2025 Remaster) Will go on sale tomorrow 9/12. Already available depending where you live On sites like qubuz.com https://www.qobuz.com/au-...revesxz3yc [Edited 9/11/25 21:30pm]

When you say 'remix', is this the 12" single?

One comment I will grant the estate is they will never stop to impress.

WhenFansCry said:

peedub said:

WhenFansCry said:

One comment I will grant the estate is they will never stop to impress.

Oh, they're making an impression. Fer sure.

JoeyCococo said:

keywiz said:

themanfromneptune said:

it is strange that the track 10 of the deluxe cd version is titled "bonus track".

I think it is a mistake anyway.

Because it's a track not on the original album.

Probably there wasn't enough room for a 22 minute track on the 2nd disc of all 'bonus tracks' so it's tacked on to the end of the 1st disc

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No, the original listing had a track 10 called "Bonus Track". Track 11 was America Extended.

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It simply shows the lack of care of the estate. See also the inconsistencies in track names.

FJODOR said:

So now that we know for sure there is NO SUPER DELUXE, let's go over some things for discussion and not baiting or flaming anyone but stating some facts;

Charles & Londell at the celebration panel said "Around The World In A Day" Deluxe is coming by Record Store Day this year, which is November 21st. They also said they want to move away from anniversaries in the future. They said that every year is a Prince anniversary, that we would have "Parade" next year and the 10th anniversary of the piano shows at Paisley BUT WHILE THEY WERE TALKING some fans started cheering because they heard "Parade & anniversary" mentioned but didn't hear about wanting to move away from anniversaries. I will circle back to that later but for my ears, it means if anything at all next year, it is a "Parade" deluxe and not an expansive SDE set at all.

Also to add, despite certain fans rheteric, Michael Howe never completed a "Parade" SDE set. The last completed sets under him were "Diamonds & Pearls" & "Love Symbol" which was to be a combined set called "Diamonds & Love" which would have been huge but also very expensive when completion was done sometime in 2021 & early 2022. Like everything else in the past few years, those sets have become cut in production and honestly, the way "Diamonds" SDE flowed with just tracks put in order how they were recorded which I am told by Sony executives was a Duane Tudahl not Michael Howe decision, it is problematic.

More on that for another day as Tudahl and Howe are no longer working for the estate, thankfully. Some may disagree with me saying thankfully but that is only because the estate right now in total is being mishandled by two men which make you think those Comerica days were so much better when they were not.

Concering fans rhetric along with Charles & Londell rheteric since they said on stage "Deluxe" only when it came to "ATWIAD" but in private conversations that it was a super deluxe, and that they have not acknowledged they were wrong by spreading misinformation, we should really be holding them accountable; so those putting the info out on it being SDE and being wrong are THE PURPLE STREAM and whom Londell called MR. Funktaopia, FUNKATOPIA along with Matt Osgood who I believe is part of the Purple Stream. Regardless of Charles telling them it was a SDE, it wasn't. In the realms of Prince and Prince news, Purple Stream is fairly new and for a few years, they were not active and Funkatopia is somewhat new as well but a few years after Prince passed, he started covering him more than he did Huey Lewis but his shows would have some sensatiolism to them with shows called "Was Prince murdered?" or other click bait disgusting things honestly. It is a shame someone who I personally love Michael Bland is doing a show with him and Bland is knowledgable on certain years, Mr. Funkatopia's Prince knowledge is seriously lacking and puts out misinformation on a weekly basis.

Now in their defense, to be I guess an equal hater as Charles Spicer would say, perhaps Spicer does not know the difference between "Expanded, Deluxe, Or Super Deluxe" when talking to those previously mentioned.

For months though it was speculated and Spicer was tagged in the posts, again FOR MONTHS, and he could have cleared up the confusion on Deluxe, not SDE, but chose not to til the day of the announcement. This guy is unprofessional on so many levels and how the Stream and 'Topia and others preached this guy's word as gospel to the fan community when not that long ago, Spicer was telling fans to go fuck themselves and stick vibrators and dildos up their crevises, is completely selling out the fan community and for what? Free celebration coverage? I know that with 'Topia for years he was wanting access to celebration to where you never know whose side he was on for a free ticket and cutting in front of people in line with VIP tickets. He got that free ticket this year so somewhat bought and paid for but the loyalty should be to the fans that pay for his radio station, let alone for journalistic integrity. I am asking too much I know but the fans feel duped.

I feel up until yesterday's article that Jon Bream was in the same boat as being bought and paid for so this is to not just slam people for the sake of slamming but there is nothing wroing when admitting you were wrong, Stream and 'Topia but maybe they are afraid to do so that Spicer would cut off their new access to them/the estate. When aligning yourself with Spicer, you are saying what he has said before in his passive/agressive 3rd grade level of communication of "Screw the fans"!

Regarldess, those two platforms for Prince "news" took a hit of credibility latching themselves onto Spicer's words, who has no credibility or professonlism at all when handling an estate that he is so obivoulsy in over his head, no matter how big it is physchially or ego-wise, Spicer has already denounced them by saying he never said "SDE" and that they (Purple Stream and Funkatopia) heard what they wanted to hear and made it up. Yet are they defending themselves and/or apologizing? I mean they can post about the project and act like they never said it, but we all know for future reference, do not trust what they say but other trusted sources that are still out there only posting actual news and not conjectures. Ahem.

Stop messing with my tambourine/tamborine and play with your own, 'Topia and Stream".

johnpiex said:

Bream wrote an article about it. I hope they get more bad press for this. Either step up or step down. https://www.startribune.c.../601472465

Bream getting his journlistic integrity back. Finally.

I hope they just step down because I think we have seen them try to step up over the past few years and it has been horrible. They can no longer blame the netflix deal for not putting out the vault material they have claimed to be "Freed".

To be honest, when they said "Freed" and capitilized "Freed" I thought they meant they were hiring a certain someone in the Prince community to help run the vault and I actually got excited. Those that know, know.

Through the years when Prince was alive, I did shit talk him and often but when I actually had conversations with him in person, I was completely wrong about him and my assumptions and how he constantly called out Prince while he was alive while working for Prince showed either he had a lot of balls or just didn't care but it showed integrity and that he cared about the fans and Prince's legacy while Prince was still here. All of this now just makes me sad, truthfully.

[Edited 9/13/25 13:23pm]

psyche2 said:

Here's something no one has clarified: is there a decent BOOKLET in this DE? For me, an informative booklet would convince me to purchase this.

GiggityGoo said:

Here's something no one has clarified: is there a decent BOOKLET in this DE? For me, an informative booklet would convince me to purchase this.

Best we can do is a 200 page essay by a Gender Studies professor from Yale explaining the profound social and racial progress made by ATWIAD's release

GiggityGoo said:

Here's something no one has clarified: is there a decent BOOKLET in this DE? For me, an informative booklet would convince me to purchase this.

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I'd be amazed if there is any more info than is present in the original liner notes. I certainly do not expect any Tudahl-like liner notes with detailed info on the recording sessions.

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This whole release reeks of cheapness. There isn't even an announcement for a Blu-ray release of the Dolby Atmos mix.

SquirrelMeat said:

banishedones666 said:

andrewcherry said:

funkatopia was edging so hard to kiss the estate’s ass that he posted a smug “you’re welcome” message last night praising the “gorgeous sound” of the “beautiful new” remasters of “girl” and “she’s always in my hair” on spotify. several people pointed out that those remastered songs aren't available and he must be listening to the og versions. instead of admitting he was incorrect he just linked to the spotify page where…those songs still arent available.

A. It’s nice that the Org is back after an absence. Thanks to whoever did the work to get it back up.

B. ATWIAD deserves an SDE release. It is the sound of an artist at the height of his powers, completely committed to following his muse to create something new. It’s a left turn. It’s beautiful. Transitional. And it, along with the 12” B-sides, contains some of his greatest work: Condition of the Heart, Tambourine, She’s Always in my Hair, the live America performance. People might not call it his best album, but it’s an extremely important record for him that filled out his story and showed him to be even more interesting.

C. The decision to not treat ATWIAD as special is another move that makes the current executors of the estate seem untrustworthy. This after shutting down an epic 6+ hour humanizing documentary about our man that was destined to be insightful and just great art for the masses, doesn’t bode well.

D. The estate doesn’t seem committed to telling his story. They are flailing. Trying to release things that they deem viable. But getting accross who the man was and what his art was about does not seem to be their priority. They need people with the attitude of historians and musicologists leading this project

E. The ATMOS mix of the Paisley Park 12” doesn’t sound better than my needle drop lossless digital file of the origianal vinyl. Furthermore, while the ATMOS mix of Purple Rain was novel and sometimes interesting, it took great liberties with the material. Some that were quite outlandish, and I would say outside of Prince’s vision (the transition from IWD4U to BIAS was quite jarring, for instance). I don’t think anyone wants or needs these. What we need are the clearest sounding dub of the masters we can get. We don’t need bassier basses or high compression or any of that sht. We need fidelity, and masters without glitches. One of the regular mass produced pressings of Purple Rain on cd had a glitch right at the beginning of The Beautiful Ones! For years that’s what Americans bought! Then when the SDE came out, it had the weird brick walled ‘remaster’ of the album that no one liked, and the 12” version of Erotic City had a glitch.

F. The best version of ATWIAD, IMO, are the HDTRACKS 24/96 that were released years back. They less compressed than the CD versions that were released, and they sound lovely.

G. The visual presentation for ATWIAD is so strong, yet somehow the merch they came up with for it is so bad. It is sad.

[Edited 9/13/25 22:44pm]

banishedones666 said:

banishedones666 said:

johnpiex said:

Bream wrote an article about it. I hope they get more bad press for this. Either step up or step down. https://www.startribune.c.../601472465

Wish I could read it.

CD version includes Hello 7'' & Girl 7'', the vinyl version does not...

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johnpiex said:

themanfromneptune said:

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I found ridiculous Charlie said on X "I told expanded version, not SDE" when a lot of reviewers from Celebration told he said "expanded" and after "SDE". Why wait until now to clarify it is a simple remaster + b-side? Silly silly silly

Didn’t another Orger ask Spicer at the Celebration for clarification regarding this and it was confirmed the set would contain vault tracks? I remember reading that on another thread.

That would have been me BUT nothing was specifically stated about it containing vault tracks - that was just the unspoken assumption, otherwise what's the point...

banishedones666 said:

So now that we know for sure there is NO SUPER DELUXE, let's go over some things for discussion and not baiting or flaming anyone but stating some facts;

Charles & Londell at the celebration panel said "Around The World In A Day" Deluxe is coming by Record Store Day this year, which is November 21st. They also said they want to move away from anniversaries in the future. They said that every year is a Prince anniversary, that we would have "Parade" next year and the 10th anniversary of the piano shows at Paisley BUT WHILE THEY WERE TALKING some fans started cheering because they heard "Parade & anniversary" mentioned but didn't hear about wanting to move away from anniversaries. I will circle back to that later but for my ears, it means if anything at all next year, it is a "Parade" deluxe and not an expansive SDE set at all.

Also to add, despite certain fans rheteric, Michael Howe never completed a "Parade" SDE set. The last completed sets under him were "Diamonds & Pearls" & "Love Symbol" which was to be a combined set called "Diamonds & Love" which would have been huge but also very expensive when completion was done sometime in 2021 & early 2022. Like everything else in the past few years, those sets have become cut in production and honestly, the way "Diamonds" SDE flowed with just tracks put in order how they were recorded which I am told by Sony executives was a Duane Tudahl not Michael Howe decision, it is problematic.

More on that for another day as Tudahl and Howe are no longer working for the estate, thankfully. Some may disagree with me saying thankfully but that is only because the estate right now in total is being mishandled by two men which make you think those Comerica days were so much better when they were not.

Concering fans rhetric along with Charles & Londell rheteric since they said on stage "Deluxe" only when it came to "ATWIAD" but in private conversations that it was a super deluxe, and that they have not acknowledged they were wrong by spreading misinformation, we should really be holding them accountable; so those putting the info out on it being SDE and being wrong are THE PURPLE STREAM and whom Londell called MR. Funktaopia, FUNKATOPIA along with Matt Osgood who I believe is part of the Purple Stream. Regardless of Charles telling them it was a SDE, it wasn't. In the realms of Prince and Prince news, Purple Stream is fairly new and for a few years, they were not active and Funkatopia is somewhat new as well but a few years after Prince passed, he started covering him more than he did Huey Lewis but his shows would have some sensatiolism to them with shows called "Was Prince murdered?" or other click bait disgusting things honestly. It is a shame someone who I personally love Michael Bland is doing a show with him and Bland is knowledgable on certain years, Mr. Funkatopia's Prince knowledge is seriously lacking and puts out misinformation on a weekly basis.

Now in their defense, to be I guess an equal hater as Charles Spicer would say, perhaps Spicer does not know the difference between "Expanded, Deluxe, Or Super Deluxe" when talking to those previously mentioned.

For months though it was speculated and Spicer was tagged in the posts, again FOR MONTHS, and he could have cleared up the confusion on Deluxe, not SDE, but chose not to til the day of the announcement. This guy is unprofessional on so many levels and how the Stream and 'Topia and others preached this guy's word as gospel to the fan community when not that long ago, Spicer was telling fans to go fuck themselves and stick vibrators and dildos up their crevises, is completely selling out the fan community and for what? Free celebration coverage? I know that with 'Topia for years he was wanting access to celebration to where you never know whose side he was on for a free ticket and cutting in front of people in line with VIP tickets. He got that free ticket this year so somewhat bought and paid for but the loyalty should be to the fans that pay for his radio station, let alone for journalistic integrity. I am asking too much I know but the fans feel duped.

I feel up until yesterday's article that Jon Bream was in the same boat as being bought and paid for so this is to not just slam people for the sake of slamming but there is nothing wroing when admitting you were wrong, Stream and 'Topia but maybe they are afraid to do so that Spicer would cut off their new access to them/the estate. When aligning yourself with Spicer, you are saying what he has said before in his passive/agressive 3rd grade level of communication of "Screw the fans"!

Regarldess, those two platforms for Prince "news" took a hit of credibility latching themselves onto Spicer's words, who has no credibility or professonlism at all when handling an estate that he is so obivoulsy in over his head, no matter how big it is physchially or ego-wise, Spicer has already denounced them by saying he never said "SDE" and that they (Purple Stream and Funkatopia) heard what they wanted to hear and made it up. Yet are they defending themselves and/or apologizing? I mean they can post about the project and act like they never said it, but we all know for future reference, do not trust what they say but other trusted sources that are still out there only posting actual news and not conjectures. Ahem.

Stop messing with my tambourine/tamborine and play with your own, 'Topia and Stream".

As you've name checked me, I thought I'd respond.

You will know some of the following, having been at the Q&A Panel session The Estate ran in June. The Q&A session was set up as a kind of 'clear the air' session that had been built up around a lack of new music and the cancellation of the Netflix program - the folks on the stage speaking openly, sounding out the audience on their thinking and possible ideas, allowing questions etc.

Given that premise, I decided to give their past lack of much activity beyond new bedsheets ( #NeverEnoughBedsheets ) the benefit of the doubt and took them for their word. In terms of what was said, some of it has happened, some of it is yet to happen and what has been announced on ATWIAD is well, disappointing beyond it being the album being remastered.

I posted at the time a Thread, ‘Celebration2025 - If U want The Truth & Nothing but The Truth’ to try and help clear things up, as a lot of stuff was being misconstrued like a game of Chinese Whispers, and I thought having been a witness, I could help clarify what was said vs. what hadn’t been. I also as part of that Thread conversation, highlighted the following:

“ATWIAD was talked about by the panel as an Expanded / Enhanced edition but as previously flagged when I asked this directly to Mr Spicer after the Q&A whether it would be a SDE or not, he confirmed SDE - so, and this is my assumption now, different people on the panel use the terms Expanded / Enhanced / SDE interchangeably.”

Which, unfortunately, this seems to be the case with ATWIAD. And in that regard, all I can say is: fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.

I don't speak for The Purple Stream but I do know what they shared, was done with positivity, fam enthusiasm and much like the above, good faith based on what was said in the Q&A and after in chatting with Charles. They nor I, are associated with The Estate in any way and we purchased our tickets and flights from the UK ourselves.

We are all invested in this, emotionally, so, I’m not sure how shooting the messengers or casting dispersions about credibility helps anyone in our shared disappointment / frustrations. We all want The Estate to excel and do great things, we all want them to do it at the speed of light, we know they do listen, we have seen that in how they adapt and change up Celebration - so, let's hope they pick up on this and get better in the future.

Peace & B Wild.

mattosgood said:

thepurplestream said:

banishedones666 said:

So now that we know for sure there is NO SUPER DELUXE, let's go over some things for discussion and not baiting or flaming anyone but stating some facts;

Charles & Londell at the celebration panel said "Around The World In A Day" Deluxe is coming by Record Store Day this year, which is November 21st. They also said they want to move away from anniversaries in the future. They said that every year is a Prince anniversary, that we would have "Parade" next year and the 10th anniversary of the piano shows at Paisley BUT WHILE THEY WERE TALKING some fans started cheering because they heard "Parade & anniversary" mentioned but didn't hear about wanting to move away from anniversaries. I will circle back to that later but for my ears, it means if anything at all next year, it is a "Parade" deluxe and not an expansive SDE set at all.

Also to add, despite certain fans rheteric, Michael Howe never completed a "Parade" SDE set. The last completed sets under him were "Diamonds & Pearls" & "Love Symbol" which was to be a combined set called "Diamonds & Love" which would have been huge but also very expensive when completion was done sometime in 2021 & early 2022. Like everything else in the past few years, those sets have become cut in production and honestly, the way "Diamonds" SDE flowed with just tracks put in order how they were recorded which I am told by Sony executives was a Duane Tudahl not Michael Howe decision, it is problematic.

More on that for another day as Tudahl and Howe are no longer working for the estate, thankfully. Some may disagree with me saying thankfully but that is only because the estate right now in total is being mishandled by two men which make you think those Comerica days were so much better when they were not.

Concering fans rhetric along with Charles & Londell rheteric since they said on stage "Deluxe" only when it came to "ATWIAD" but in private conversations that it was a super deluxe, and that they have not acknowledged they were wrong by spreading misinformation, we should really be holding them accountable; so those putting the info out on it being SDE and being wrong are THE PURPLE STREAM and whom Londell called MR. Funktaopia, FUNKATOPIA along with Matt Osgood who I believe is part of the Purple Stream. Regardless of Charles telling them it was a SDE, it wasn't. In the realms of Prince and Prince news, Purple Stream is fairly new and for a few years, they were not active and Funkatopia is somewhat new as well but a few years after Prince passed, he started covering him more than he did Huey Lewis but his shows would have some sensatiolism to them with shows called "Was Prince murdered?" or other click bait disgusting things honestly. It is a shame someone who I personally love Michael Bland is doing a show with him and Bland is knowledgable on certain years, Mr. Funkatopia's Prince knowledge is seriously lacking and puts out misinformation on a weekly basis.

Now in their defense, to be I guess an equal hater as Charles Spicer would say, perhaps Spicer does not know the difference between "Expanded, Deluxe, Or Super Deluxe" when talking to those previously mentioned.

For months though it was speculated and Spicer was tagged in the posts, again FOR MONTHS, and he could have cleared up the confusion on Deluxe, not SDE, but chose not to til the day of the announcement. This guy is unprofessional on so many levels and how the Stream and 'Topia and others preached this guy's word as gospel to the fan community when not that long ago, Spicer was telling fans to go fuck themselves and stick vibrators and dildos up their crevises, is completely selling out the fan community and for what? Free celebration coverage? I know that with 'Topia for years he was wanting access to celebration to where you never know whose side he was on for a free ticket and cutting in front of people in line with VIP tickets. He got that free ticket this year so somewhat bought and paid for but the loyalty should be to the fans that pay for his radio station, let alone for journalistic integrity. I am asking too much I know but the fans feel duped.

I feel up until yesterday's article that Jon Bream was in the same boat as being bought and paid for so this is to not just slam people for the sake of slamming but there is nothing wroing when admitting you were wrong, Stream and 'Topia but maybe they are afraid to do so that Spicer would cut off their new access to them/the estate. When aligning yourself with Spicer, you are saying what he has said before in his passive/agressive 3rd grade level of communication of "Screw the fans"!

Regarldess, those two platforms for Prince "news" took a hit of credibility latching themselves onto Spicer's words, who has no credibility or professonlism at all when handling an estate that he is so obivoulsy in over his head, no matter how big it is physchially or ego-wise, Spicer has already denounced them by saying he never said "SDE" and that they (Purple Stream and Funkatopia) heard what they wanted to hear and made it up. Yet are they defending themselves and/or apologizing? I mean they can post about the project and act like they never said it, but we all know for future reference, do not trust what they say but other trusted sources that are still out there only posting actual news and not conjectures. Ahem.

Stop messing with my tambourine/tamborine and play with your own, 'Topia and Stream".

Jeremiah, you are just embarrassing yourself here, trying to tear others down using an alias to promote your own brand. Not cool. Not L4OA. I have nothing more to say to you. [Edited 9/14/25 1:16am] [Edited 9/14/25 1:19am]

Nope. Not him and I have had issues with him before. I saw your response along with Matt's before I saw this and thought both were well thought out and well said and will respond to those and just wanted to respond to this. Him speaking ill of Charles, Londell, you or others wouldn't be kosher for him I bet.

banishedones666 said:

mattosgood said:

banishedones666 said:

So now that we know for sure there is NO SUPER DELUXE, let's go over some things for discussion and not baiting or flaming anyone but stating some facts;

Charles & Londell at the celebration panel said "Around The World In A Day" Deluxe is coming by Record Store Day this year, which is November 21st. They also said they want to move away from anniversaries in the future. They said that every year is a Prince anniversary, that we would have "Parade" next year and the 10th anniversary of the piano shows at Paisley BUT WHILE THEY WERE TALKING some fans started cheering because they heard "Parade & anniversary" mentioned but didn't hear about wanting to move away from anniversaries. I will circle back to that later but for my ears, it means if anything at all next year, it is a "Parade" deluxe and not an expansive SDE set at all.

Also to add, despite certain fans rheteric, Michael Howe never completed a "Parade" SDE set. The last completed sets under him were "Diamonds & Pearls" & "Love Symbol" which was to be a combined set called "Diamonds & Love" which would have been huge but also very expensive when completion was done sometime in 2021 & early 2022. Like everything else in the past few years, those sets have become cut in production and honestly, the way "Diamonds" SDE flowed with just tracks put in order how they were recorded which I am told by Sony executives was a Duane Tudahl not Michael Howe decision, it is problematic.

More on that for another day as Tudahl and Howe are no longer working for the estate, thankfully. Some may disagree with me saying thankfully but that is only because the estate right now in total is being mishandled by two men which make you think those Comerica days were so much better when they were not.

Concering fans rhetric along with Charles & Londell rheteric since they said on stage "Deluxe" only when it came to "ATWIAD" but in private conversations that it was a super deluxe, and that they have not acknowledged they were wrong by spreading misinformation, we should really be holding them accountable; so those putting the info out on it being SDE and being wrong are THE PURPLE STREAM and whom Londell called MR. Funktaopia, FUNKATOPIA along with Matt Osgood who I believe is part of the Purple Stream. Regardless of Charles telling them it was a SDE, it wasn't. In the realms of Prince and Prince news, Purple Stream is fairly new and for a few years, they were not active and Funkatopia is somewhat new as well but a few years after Prince passed, he started covering him more than he did Huey Lewis but his shows would have some sensatiolism to them with shows called "Was Prince murdered?" or other click bait disgusting things honestly. It is a shame someone who I personally love Michael Bland is doing a show with him and Bland is knowledgable on certain years, Mr. Funkatopia's Prince knowledge is seriously lacking and puts out misinformation on a weekly basis.

Now in their defense, to be I guess an equal hater as Charles Spicer would say, perhaps Spicer does not know the difference between "Expanded, Deluxe, Or Super Deluxe" when talking to those previously mentioned.

For months though it was speculated and Spicer was tagged in the posts, again FOR MONTHS, and he could have cleared up the confusion on Deluxe, not SDE, but chose not to til the day of the announcement. This guy is unprofessional on so many levels and how the Stream and 'Topia and others preached this guy's word as gospel to the fan community when not that long ago, Spicer was telling fans to go fuck themselves and stick vibrators and dildos up their crevises, is completely selling out the fan community and for what? Free celebration coverage? I know that with 'Topia for years he was wanting access to celebration to where you never know whose side he was on for a free ticket and cutting in front of people in line with VIP tickets. He got that free ticket this year so somewhat bought and paid for but the loyalty should be to the fans that pay for his radio station, let alone for journalistic integrity. I am asking too much I know but the fans feel duped.

I feel up until yesterday's article that Jon Bream was in the same boat as being bought and paid for so this is to not just slam people for the sake of slamming but there is nothing wroing when admitting you were wrong, Stream and 'Topia but maybe they are afraid to do so that Spicer would cut off their new access to them/the estate. When aligning yourself with Spicer, you are saying what he has said before in his passive/agressive 3rd grade level of communication of "Screw the fans"!

Regarldess, those two platforms for Prince "news" took a hit of credibility latching themselves onto Spicer's words, who has no credibility or professonlism at all when handling an estate that he is so obivoulsy in over his head, no matter how big it is physchially or ego-wise, Spicer has already denounced them by saying he never said "SDE" and that they (Purple Stream and Funkatopia) heard what they wanted to hear and made it up. Yet are they defending themselves and/or apologizing? I mean they can post about the project and act like they never said it, but we all know for future reference, do not trust what they say but other trusted sources that are still out there only posting actual news and not conjectures. Ahem.

Stop messing with my tambourine/tamborine and play with your own, 'Topia and Stream".

As you've name checked me, I thought I'd respond.

You will know some of the following, having been at the Q&A Panel session The Estate ran in June. The Q&A session was set up as a kind of 'clear the air' session that had been built up around a lack of new music and the cancellation of the Netflix program - the folks on the stage speaking openly, sounding out the audience on their thinking and possible ideas, allowing questions etc.

Given that premise, I decided to give their past lack of much activity beyond new bedsheets ( #NeverEnoughBedsheets ) the benefit of the doubt and took them for their word. In terms of what was said, some of it has happened, some of it is yet to happen and what has been announced on ATWIAD is well, disappointing beyond it being the album being remastered.

I posted at the time a Thread, ‘Celebration2025 - If U want The Truth & Nothing but The Truth’ to try and help clear things up, as a lot of stuff was being misconstrued like a game of Chinese Whispers, and I thought having been a witness, I could help clarify what was said vs. what hadn’t been. I also as part of that Thread conversation, highlighted the following:

“ATWIAD was talked about by the panel as an Expanded / Enhanced edition but as previously flagged when I asked this directly to Mr Spicer after the Q&A whether it would be a SDE or not, he confirmed SDE - so, and this is my assumption now, different people on the panel use the terms Expanded / Enhanced / SDE interchangeably.”

Which, unfortunately, this seems to be the case with ATWIAD. And in that regard, all I can say is: fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.

I don't speak for The Purple Stream but I do know what they shared, was done with positivity, fam enthusiasm and much like the above, good faith based on what was said in the Q&A and after in chatting with Charles. They nor I, are associated with The Estate in any way and we purchased our tickets and flights from the UK ourselves.

We are all invested in this, emotionally, so, I’m not sure how shooting the messengers or casting dispersions about credibility helps anyone in our shared disappointment / frustrations. We all want The Estate to excel and do great things, we all want them to do it at the speed of light, we know they do listen, we have seen that in how they adapt and change up Celebration - so, let's hope they pick up on this and get better in the future.

Peace & B Wild.

Thanks for your well-thought out response. I did not see the other thread but if you covered that there and are repeating it here, it is appreciated. As you stated, we shot the messenger and you would think, yet this is assumption, that if Spicer took the time to talk to you with The Purple Stream, that it would benefit to be up front for the fan community with what the project would and did entail from the start and I did say previously he had months to clear it up but didn't. If there was good will on conversations with him afterwards, I am not sure where that stands now. It made you and the Purple Stream look bad is and my assumption of being aligned with with them is wrong and I apologize for that. Thanks for clearing everything up and you could have come back and struck me and others down hard but you didn't. I think MY frustration was waiting 3 months for something announced in June and the expectations but the blame shouldn't be on the messenger but on the person who provided you the information.