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Prince vault releases and commitment from the estate Hello fellow Prince fans, and admirers of Prince music, both live and in studio,
Many of us would like recordings from the vault to be officially released, concert videos and outtakes.
In September 2024, Londell posted this "When we FREE the Vault, more music and video recordings can & will flow and be released! Vault Contracts preceded us. We are working to FIX it. There is much more than what you know and some matters are legally confidential. Almost there… Peace #FreeTheVault#Emancipation3" (https://x.com/LondellMcMillan/status/1834916630498791497).
In February 2025, the same person gave us the update "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED. Now, let’s focus on Prince’s music and Love For One Another (please)" (https://x.com/LondellMcMillan/status/1887883166247264477).
The message from September is clear about freeing and releasing concerts videos and audio material.
This post is to suggest the idea to reply to the tweet (X) from September 2024, and ask about those recordings.
Thank you and enjoy the Minneapolis sound. [Edited 7/2/25 8:48am] |
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They're not gonna listen. Fans have been reaching out to them for over two years now across all social media, and they've haven't taken any fan ideas into consideration. Even this year when they finally had an audience panel for the sake of "transparency", it was exclusive to an event that people had to pay $1400+ to attend. Londell and Charles don't give a shit about Prince's music, and they don't give a shit about what the fans say. The only people they acknowledge are sycophantic fans who kiss their asses and defend their every move. |
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I understand the frustration. I saw previous messages. The difference here is we have a written and explicit commitment. Posting on X (twitter) is free. I do not see a reason for not replying. The more we are, the bigger the weight. Peope whine 'oh no we want releases', but when there is an opportunity to act Nobody is there.
Imagine the bad publicity of a written commitment, fans showing interest in mass, and things not happening. The estate needs to save face too. Fans can act. [Edited 7/3/25 1:01am] |
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Second album, seventh song. |
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WhenFansCry said: I understand the frustration. I saw previous messages. The difference here is we have a written and explicit commitment. Posting on X (twitter) is free. I do not see a reason for not replying. The more we are, the bigger the weight. Peope whine 'oh no we want releases', but when there is an opportunity to act Nobody is there. Imagine the bad publicity of a written commitment, fans showing interest in mass, and things not happening. The estate needs to save face too. Fans can act. [Edited 7/3/25 1:01am] Not everyone uses Twitter though. Not only that, the estate shouldn't need to be told to release something. They surely already know that there is massive dissatisfaction amongst Prince fans at the lack of releases. They told us that the vault was free months ago. What have they done since? Fuck all. I get that these things take time but they should have been putting a plan in place BEFORE the vault was freed so that once it was, they could be ready to put their plan into action. Putting it back into the fans and saying "nobody is there" or saying it's up to us to tell them what we want is nonsense. Pure nonsense. They KNOW what we want. We want MUSIC. We want unreleased recordings from the vault. Ultimately, we don't care if it's outtakes from Controversy or 3121. Anything is better than nothing. And up to now, this new estate has given us exactly that. Nothing. And I say "given" as if I'm looking for something for free. I'm not. We're willing to spend money on this shit. We just haven't had the opportunity to do so. It's not rocket science. Stick a few of the songs that were played for the people who attended the Celebration thing last year on a CD, slap "Prince Vault Vol 1" on the cover and release it. Some people may complain about not getting a more comprehensive set focused on a specific era but ultimately, they'll still buy the CD because it's newly released Prince music. Which is something the estate has not provided us with up to this point. TLDR, the fans just want music. Anything will do at this point. Any competent estate would already know this and wouldn't need to be told. | |
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Very wise words Shelly, I totally agree. However, sitting back and doing nothing will NOT help change happen. A post on prince.org, or hundreds, are not directly pointed at the estate (@...).
Creating an account on Twitter is free and it only takes a few times. As an example, not attacking you, I think the time to reply to me could have been used to create and account on X and post a message to the estate and Londell. |
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WhenFansCry said: Very wise words Shelly, I totally agree. However, sitting back and doing nothing will NOT help change happen. A post on prince.org, or hundreds, are not directly pointed at the estate (@...).
Creating an account on Twitter is free and it only takes a few times. As an example, not attacking you, I think the time to reply to me could have been used to create and account on X and post a message to the estate and Londell. I wouldn't use Twitter if you paid me to use it. It's not the cost or the time it takes to set up an account that prevents me from doing so. It's the the lunatic prick who runs it. | |
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I feel the same, but it is the place where the estate reads messages and sometimes replies. They choose where they engage. I do not think this social media is the best place for a conversation to take place with an audience either, but it is what there is at this time. |
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They seem to care a lot more about Purple Rain than anything else at this point! Sure, this year’s celebration acknowledged the 40th anniversary of ATWIAD but the main focus was PRs 41st anniversary… throughout his social media it always seems like PR is the only thing he recorded. It’s been 45 since Dirty Mind, but I guess that would go against the sanitized version of Prince the estate seems to be pushing. Not to mention that his earliest studio recordings will be turning 50 years old! Why not release all 14 songs he recorded at Moonsound studios in 1976 and call it “The Beginning of the Dawn” or some shit? And yeah I probably could have written this on Elon’s nazi-incel platform but it would be ignored by the estate anyway lol |
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WhenFansCry said: I feel the same, but it is the place where the estate reads messages and sometimes replies. They choose where they engage. I do not think this social media is the best place for a conversation to take place with an audience either, but it is what there is at this time. Well then they need to learn how to run a business then. Given that Prince was a black artist, most of his fanbase would be against using a platform owned by a racist piece of shit. And if the estate continue to go down their current route of being completely useless then ultimately, they will be the ones who will suffer. Sure, we'll lose out on new Prince releases. But other artists are available. We'll be ok. The estate will suffer more. No new releases = no profits for them. Again, this is not difficult to understand. They shouldn't need to be told what to do. That's no way of running a business. Bruce Springsteen has just released a massive compilation of unreleased recordings. The estate should look at that and follow his example. What they shouldn't be doing is looking for the opinions of a tiny minority of so-called Prince fans on a social media site run by a racist. They just need to release something. ANYTHING. And if they don't already know this then they should step aside and let someone who knows what they're doing take over. | |
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I personally find it disappointing to see people pretend to want vault releases so much, and be so reluctant to try ask again. Messages I saw in the past were uncivil and sounded more like insults than polite requests. |
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WhenFansCry said: I personally find it disappointing to see people pretend to want vault releases so much, and be so reluctant to try ask again. Messages I saw in the past were uncivil and sounded more like insults than polite requests. How many more times do you want people to ask though? The estate already know what the fans want. The fans want actual UNRELEASED recordings. The fact that they haven't given it to us yet is not because they don't know. It's because they're incompetent. Fans can keep asking all they want but it's not going to change the fact that the people in charge of the estate are complete amateurs who haven't got a clue what they're doing and completely unqualified to hold the position they have. No amount of Twitter campaigns is going to change that. | |
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I am only saying "I want it all without doing anything" does not work. Just my opinion. I explained above that this time would be replying to a written promise. A good shot. It may not work, no guarantee of the result, but fair question, fair asking. Sitting doing nothing is not going to influence anyone.
Edit: fixed typos. [Edited 7/6/25 14:38pm] |
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U sound like a complete nut case. This Estate is complete shit.......what part of this is unclear? Graycap23 was ME! |
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The more I engage, the more I think the fan base does not deserve proper releases. |
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. Friends don't let friends clap on 1 and 3.
The Paisley Park Vault spreadsheet: https://goo.gl/zzWHrU |
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WhenFansCry said: The more I engage, the more I think the fan base does not deserve proper releases. "Deserve" has nothing to do with it. The Prince estate is a business. Their main motivation is to make money. They've already proven that they don't give a shit about Prince's legacy. So again, money is their prime motivation here. And, as it turns out, they are exceptionally bad at it. The one thing Prince fans want from them is unreleased music. And, up to this point, it's the one thing they have failed to provide. We've had all kinds of bed spreads, t-shirts, candles, all that shit nobody wants. But no unreleased recordings with the exception of the D&P set. But even then, that was all organized by the previous guys in charge. So, if we're talking about who deserves what, you could say that the estate does not deserve our money when they have failed to provide the one thing we want. | |
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U sound like a complete nut case. This Estate is complete shit.....what part of this is unclear? He doesn't sound like a nut case to me. Just a regular, run of the mill internet troll. | |
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The demand is not here anymore [for releases]. Folks prefer to debate instead of posting a simple message in a polite form. It just shows how much people do not want those releases, only ATTENTION SEEKERS. |
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WhenFansCry said: The more I engage, the more I think the fan base does not deserve proper releases. What do you mean by “deserve”? The estate is a business! It’s not about giving or denying the fans what they deserve, but about preserving the legacy and art of a musical genius. It’s about curating and having a vision on how to highlight each era and make the public see how prolific Prince was from his very first studio recordings beginning in 1976, to the day he died in 2016. The fans don’t have to “do anything” to make the estate get off their asses and do a proper job to honor Prince’s art and legacy. What do you want us to do? To grovel and praise them for the “awesome” job they’ve been doing so far? To beg nicely so they can release at least another unreleased song out of the kindness of their hearts? Like @bozojones said earlier, you seem to ignore all of the constructive opinions/suggestions given to the estate in all social media platforms (which have obviously been ignored) and only seem to focus on all the negative comments. Makes me think you’re either Charles, Londell or one of their lackeys seeking praise from the fans. Prince’s art is not a carrot to be tied to a stick to make the fans “put in work” and praise incompetence. [Edited 7/7/25 15:38pm] |
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lol........the more u engage the more I go 2 sleep. Stop the B.S. Graycap23 was ME! |
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lol.....the more u engage the more I go 2 sleep. Stop the B.S. See what I mean about him being a troll? | |
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100% Graycap23 was ME! |
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I noticed. It is clear. Very sad for a so called, supposed, Prince fan community. The estate must be pleased to read that there is no demand for vault material and that they do not need to bother with it. |
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