I think the film would have been even worse than the one we got.

Nobody would have even tried to watch it.

A lil' mo' betta.

Jerome's acting was better than Prince's imo.

Prince can't act. Or better, he couldn't 'direct' himself.

The way he was directed in PR was much better I think.

Jerome was for sure better in portraying that unwritten gay-ish bromance, which this movie was all about in my (gay) opnion.

Why else are two black American men living together in the south of france in one apartment?

Being in the same bathroom? Sleeping in the same room? While one is taking a bath with a hat on, and the other throwing rose petals? Or valet that sends messages, with bodily instructions, on a napkin?

Prince just wanted his “buddy” of the moment next to him, this time coincidentally in a film.
It could have been anyone “of the moment”.

Yeah, if Morris was still around, it could've been him. Would it be better? Possibly.

A year later, it was Wally who got more attention on the humour forum of Prince's harem.

Prince cited people according to his whims and preferences of the day.

And you could apparently quickly fall into discord. My 2 cents.

Interesting about Morris. I think his shtick would have tired half way in though. And I cant picture him swapping spit with KST.

Unpopular Opinion... UTCM is more enjoyable than Purple Rain. I've re-watched it at least 100 times. Purple Rain, maybe 5.

Kissing scenes would've been 200% less WTF.

100% Morris would have been good for the more comedy sections of the film, but could you imagine him in the more dramatic scenes at the end?

Vannormal said:

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

Vannormal said:

Jerome's acting was better than Prince's imo.

Prince can't act. Or better, he couldn't 'direct' himself.

The way he was directed in PR was much better I think.

Jerome was for sure better in portraying that unwritten gay-ish bromance, which this movie was all about in my (gay) opnion.

Why else are two black American men living together in the south of france in one apartment?

Being in the same bathroom? Sleeping in the same room? While one is taking a bath with a hat on, and the other throwing rose petals? Or valet that sends messages, with bodily instructions, on a napkin?

Prince just wanted his “buddy” of the moment next to him, this time coincidentally in a film.
It could have been anyone “of the moment”.

Yeah, if Morris was still around, it could've been him. Would it be better? Possibly.

A year later, it was Wally who got more attention on the humour forum of Prince's harem.

Prince cited people according to his whims and preferences of the day.

And you could apparently quickly fall into discord. My 2 cents.

Jerome is good. Hes warm, likeable, fun. Whereas prince is just into himself and himself alone. Got to be one of the most egotistical projects anyone in music has done. Princes self direction was basically 'look cool/sexy/coy and repeat. [Edited 6/16/25 20:12pm]

Yes. Jerome was a good counterbalance to Prince. Kristin Scott Thomas is the true hero of this flick. She had to put up with Prince and the horrible acting and has, to this day, never said a bad word about it.

happyshopper said:

100% Morris would have been good for the more comedy sections of the film, but could you imagine him in the more dramatic scenes at the end?

Do you mean where Prince gets shot and channels his inner Bugs Bunny? I suspect Morris could do better.

luv2tha99s said:

Gimme Prince AND Morris as Christopher / Tricky. Morris would have kept Prince on his toes acting wise. The whole who loves Mary more scene would have made more sense. What with Morris giving him more competition in the gigolo arena. Plus I wouldn't have felt as though it was a solo Prince flick.

I love the idea of Prince and Morris acting together again, but no way would I want to lose Jerome as Tricky.

NouveauDance said:

That death scene...

Let me start by saying I've had multiple conversastions where I've "defended" (I use that word hesitantly because I don't think you need to "defend" being gay.... I'm gay!).... Prince being gay. While he loved to play with gender stereotypes and sexuality..... all evidence we have from interviews, his relationships, etc. suggests he was mostly and very likely only heterosexual in his actual life.

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That said. . . can someone explain how the Tricky/Christopher scenes, not to mention Jerome in Purple Rain and Morris in Purple Rain ("Yesssssss").....the opening scene with him vacumming in a do rag etc. are not the most flaming, gay things ever??? The preening, the "Black girl mannerisms" etc etc. They seem more like huge queens than Gigolo/Ladies man.... yet somehow they are supposed to be what all the girls want??

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Never got that.

NouveauDance said:

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

The Christopher character was basically prince channelling the morris character he created. The fact it's Jerome playing tricky just adds to that. As someone not a fan of the film lol I think Morris might have actually improved it. Shame prince had to try and act again. [Edited 6/14/25 15:58pm]

Christopher Tracy needed to be sympathetic: you wanted the audience to like him and regardless of what one thinks of Prince's performance or the movie, the character is likeable.

I can't speak of Morris as a real person, he may be a really nice guy, but the Morris Day "character" he's always been displaying on records, on film and on stage is cool and funny, but kind of an arrogant and selfish asshole and rather unfriendly. Unless he could channel a completely different vibe (and maybe he could have, but I never saw him act out of character so I wouldn't know), there's no way he could have been a likeable Christopher Tracy.

+ Prince and Morris weren't exactly in speaking terms in 1985, so this would have been impossible anyway.

erik319 said:

I'm reminded of those scenes every time I eat a yoghurt & let one of my beagles clean the empty pot.

It's my fav. of his movies too. I mean, I also love Showgirls, so I'm not saying I'm the barometer of taste or anything!

whodknee said:

GaryMF said:

databank said:

SoulAlive said:

Prince made two good movies: Purple Rain and Sign O’The Times. The other two are best forgotten

UTCM had it's moments. Some aspects of it were good and others were cringe-worthy. Graffiti Bridge was HORRIBLE throughout.

Prince may have created the Morris Day character but Morris did it better. UTCM would have been a different novie but not many would have cared. That said. Prince proved he was very human with this and the atrocious Grafitti Bridge.

No Prince, no movie.

GaryMF said:

Let me start by saying I've had multiple conversastions where I've "defended" (I use that word hesitantly because I don't think you need to "defend" being gay.... I'm gay!).... Prince being gay. While he loved to play with gender stereotypes and sexuality..... all evidence we have from interviews, his relationships, etc. suggests he was mostly and very likely only heterosexual in his actual life.

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.

That said. . . can someone explain how the Tricky/Christopher scenes, not to mention Jerome in Purple Rain and Morris in Purple Rain ("Yesssssss").....the opening scene with him vacumming in a do rag etc. are not the most flaming, gay things ever??? The preening, the "Black girl mannerisms" etc etc. They seem more like huge queens than Gigolo/Ladies man.... yet somehow they are supposed to be what all the girls want??

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Never got that.

Yes, I don't understand that either. But I remember someone asking Morris Day about it and he said that's just a Minneapolis men thing at the time, they needed to be as flamboyant as they could.