I think you could use a better title for this thread

It looks like an unedgeumacccated guess.

Looks like you need post using a different title. ffs.

America (Live Music Video Version): I want the other take they did that same day (and the full video of that mini-concert)



Raspberry Beret (1982 Version): May not exist. It was mentioned when the "1999" SD that they did not find it. He may have used what there was of it for the 85 version?



4 The Tears In Your Eyes: Stuido or live?


We might get an expanded but I full SD is not likely...

Thanks for getting everyone's hopes up with that title, even though we should all know better Since we're having this discussion though, I think these songs (mostly stuff already on the 2017 PR Deluxe) belong on a ATWIAD SDE:

• Our Destiny / Roadhouse Garden
• All Day, All Night
• The Dance Electric
• Wonderful Ass (Wendy & Lisa Mix)

bozojones said:

Pointless.

I'd take this, if the Estate will just get on with it and do it!

There simply isn't the material.

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- No concert, unless you count the Nice concert.

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- No real outtakes, except material that was recorded between the PR release and the ATWIAD release. For example various tracks for The Family: IMHO putting them on this release would hurt the Parade SDE. They feel like a precursor to Parade, and form part of that album's story.

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Last time someone talked about this, they filled the outtakes disc with songs from rehearsals etc. and it felt like scraping the bottom of the barrel.

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Does this album deserve a remaster and an expanded release including all the mixes and B-sides etc.? Of course. But filling an outtakes disc might be pushing it.

ExTAFKASoladeo1 said:

Hello

Hello (Fresh Dance Mix)

She’s Always In My Hair

She’s Always In My Hair (New Mix)

Paisley Park (Instrumental)???

Paisley Park (Single Edit)???

Pop Life (Single Edit)???

Pop Life (Extended Version)

Pop Life (Fresh Dance Remix)

Around The World In A Day (Demo)

America (Extended Version)

America (Live Music Video Version)

Raspberry Beret (1982 Version)

Raspberry Beret (Single Edit)???

Raspberry Beret (12’ Version)

Girl

Girl (Extended Version)

4 The Tears In Your Eyes

I have the majority of this...but would probably still buy it.

love2thenines2003 said:

Add the 7 June 1985 show at the Prom Centre, Minneapolis:

https://princevault.com/i..._June_1985

MIRvmn1 said:

love2thenines2003 said:

We don't even know what are the trax in the vault...we can't say for sure there is nothing in the vault for a SDE of ATWIAD..there is a significant possibility there are demos or alternate takes from the ATWIAD that we are not aware of at this stage?

I don't think they would have any problems putting together at least one vault disc for a possible Deluxe set. But I doubt there's enough material for a SDE.

ATWIAD Deluxe Edition would be an easy choice for the estate.It would require the least amount of effort to put together

love2thenines2003 said:

We don't even know what are the trax in the vault...we can't say for sure there is nothing in the vault for a SDE of ATWIAD..there is a significant possibility there are demos or alternate takes from the ATWIAD that we are not aware of at this stage?

Try convincing the resident experts.

With due respect, I think it's ridiculous to think there's not enough stuff for an ATWIAD - SDE.

Prince was recording at frantic speed at that time, even at soundchecks on the Purple Rain tour. I can easily figure out enough vault material to fill up several discs.

There was a completed album between Purple Rain and ATWIAD, they could use that and the early versions of the ATWIAD tracks and whatever outtakes or Prince versions of tracks given to others to easily fill a SDE that is comparab;e to the other SDEs

JorisE73 said:

psyche2 said:

With due respect, I think it's ridiculous to think there's not enough stuff for an ATWIAD - SDE.

Prince was recording at frantic speed at that time, even at soundchecks on the Purple Rain tour. I can easily figure out enough vault material to fill up several discs.

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Go on then, show us the list.

AndyMac said:

Add the 7 June 1985 show at the Prom Centre, Minneapolis:

https://princevault.com/i..._June_1985

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Literally not a single song from ATWIAD. How would this be relevant?

bizzie said:

psyche2 said:

With due respect, I think it's ridiculous to think there's not enough stuff for an ATWIAD - SDE.

Prince was recording at frantic speed at that time, even at soundchecks on the Purple Rain tour. I can easily figure out enough vault material to fill up several discs.

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Go on then, show us the list.

...some things & maybe others in the Vault fully unknown from us or Diane tudalh?

...some things reported in the books of Tudahl

The Full version of the segment song presented during the PR tour....the full version of "I m so confused" , Condition of the heart piano demo & alternate mixes , ATWIAD demos; The Ladder alternate mixes , temptation working sessions... & other ones probably ?

[Edited 5/21/25 12:43pm]

love2thenines2003 said:

bizzie said:

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Go on then, show us the list.

...some things & maybe others in the Vault fully unknown from us or Diane tudalh?

...some things reported in the books of Tudahl

The Full version of the segment song presented during the PR tour....the full version of "I m so confused" , Condition of the heart piano demo & alternate mixes , ATWIAD demos; The Ladder alternate mixes , temptation working sessions... & other ones probably ?

[Edited 5/21/25 12:43pm]

To begin with, and that's just an educated guess!

I mean, Prince barely did anything else other than performing, reharsing and recording - at least at that ponit in his career. I reckon perhaps there not too many totally unkown songs from this period, but to think one couldn't fill up 3 or 4 CDs with previously unreleased stuff is silly.

What was the original Thread Title?

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As much as I'd like an SDE (or just a Deluxe) ATWIAD, I'd be happy if the Estate just got a remastered and expanded version out.

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As usual, too little, too late. Would have been good for the Celebration if they had something solid to talk about and centre the event around.

love2thenines2003 said:

bizzie said:

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Go on then, show us the list.

...some things & maybe others in the Vault fully unknown from us or Diane tudalh?

...some things reported in the books of Tudahl

The Full version of the segment song presented during the PR tour....the full version of "I m so confused" , Condition of the heart piano demo & alternate mixes , ATWIAD demos; The Ladder alternate mixes , temptation working sessions... & other ones probably ?

[Edited 5/21/25 12:43pm]

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LOL. Barrel-bottom scraping it is. Also: you managed about ten songs or so. LMAO. That's not even a full CD, let alone three.

psyche2 said:

love2thenines2003 said:

...some things & maybe others in the Vault fully unknown from us or Diane tudalh?

...some things reported in the books of Tudahl

The Full version of the segment song presented during the PR tour....the full version of "I m so confused" , Condition of the heart piano demo & alternate mixes , ATWIAD demos; The Ladder alternate mixes , temptation working sessions... & other ones probably ?

[Edited 5/21/25 12:43pm]

To begin with, and that's just an educated guess!

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You said you could "easily figure out enough vault material to fill up several discs" -- those are your words. Yet still you don't provide a list and only point to a weak-sauce effort from someone else.

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I mean, Prince barely did anything else other than performing, reharsing and recording - at least at that ponit in his career. I reckon perhaps there not too many totally unkown songs from this period, but to think one couldn't fill up 3 or 4 CDs with previously unreleased stuff is silly.

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This is a period that is pretty well documented. There could be some previously unknown tracks, but it is laughable to suggest that Prince was producing dozens of outtakes at that point. Once the PR tour started, most of the time there was very little time available.

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Pricne fans have this insane idea that he was always recording, but that only happened when there was nothing else he needed to do. And even then there were stretches where he seemingly did not record a lot.

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Note how albums like W2A and 3121 and Planet Earth etc. had songs that shifted between those projects, despite them being years apart. Am I supposed to believe that in those years Prince spent tons of days in his recording studio yet had little to show for it?

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Yeah, 1986 was a very productive year, but it seems to be a bit of an anomaly. Compare to 1990 when Prince was either burnt out or he recorded a bunch of stuff that we don't know about: https://princevault.com/i...orded_1990 .

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The idea that there are piles and piles of unknown tracks resulting from numerous undocumented recording sessions is belied by the reality of what we have seen in the past decade, and even before that.

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Go read Tudahl's books, and notice how a lot of the info is not new and has been known for decades. Claiming that you can fill multiple CDs with outtakes from that period based on the assumption that there are dozens of unknown tracks is just ridiculous.