JorisE73 said:

olb99 said:

The D&P Atmos Blu-ray from 2023 doesn't have any bonuses either, so at least you can say they're consistent.

true but D&P got a SDE where all that stuff was on released around the same time

Yes, on the other hand, here's what NS said in June 2024:

"It's highly unlikely y'all will see a "Purple Rain" Super Deluxe this year and, most likely, also not next year..."

So a SDE of PR is "most likely" unlikely in 2025, but you never know. Maybe the situation changed and it has become more likely? I don't know.

A Blu-ray of the Atmos mix of PR in the first half of the year, followed by a SDE of PR in the second half?

YAWN

olb99 said:

olb99 said:

tintin said:

Not my favorite album either but at least its better than another fucking blanket or whatnot.

Is it, though? Is it?

Better than another blanket? Yes. Absolutely yes.

sexton said:

olb99 said:

Is it, though? Is it?

Better than another blanket? Yes. Absolutely yes.

Well, a blanket can keep me warm. A Blu-ray of something we've had since last year? Maybe as a coaster?

Mindbells9 said:

MIRvmn1 said:

Mindbells9 said:

Maybe that's because they expected the Netflix fiasco to drag out longer than it did, so they had no high hopes for any 2024/2025 releases because of the restrictions the Netflix deal had the Estate tied up in. Now that the vault is "free", the notion that a 2025 SDE is "most likely unlikely" is probably leaning towards a strong possibility now. Time will tell.

I expect at least one release this year.

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I'm afraid that one release is the subject of this thread.

olb99 said:

sexton said:

Better than another blanket? Yes. Absolutely yes.

Well, a blanket can keep me warm. A Blu-ray of something we've had since last year? Maybe as a coaster?

The estate already sells blankets. You would prefer another one?

Not everyone streams their music so for those who don't, this Blu-ray makes the Dolby ATMOS mix of Purple Rain accessible to them finally. I suppose you would also be against pressing onto CDs the four digital-only albums released in the 00s.

andrewcherry said:

if the atmos mix was anything other than totally awful, this would be an instant purchase for me. unfortunately that is not the case. the mix fucking sucks.

Kinda agree.

I was crazy about it when I heard it at first.

But many listens later, i feel it's not the best indeed.

Could've been done so much better - when I compare it with othere artists' reissued Atmos Mixes.

NICKthebrick said:

So I guess you can't play this on a normal CD player. I wouldn't buy it anyway. The current estate is awful

Probably you can, but you'll not hear the full Atmos experience.

this is what I found, wanted to check it myself :

"Ensure your Blu-ray player supports Dolby Atmos. Most newer models, particularly 4K Ultra HD players, come equipped with this capability. Audio System: You'll need a sound system that can decode Dolby Atmos."

JorisE73 said:

bizzie said:

This release was announced almost nine months ago. Despite literally nothing happening, you lot still couldn't retain that tiny bit on info and now get upset.

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Also, this is a shit release. Not because it is PR, because it is a barebones release with no bonuses, e.g. officially released extended versions etc. in Hi-Res. And because the Dolby Atmos mix is pretty bad.

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But at least we're getting the original 1984 PR master in Hi-Res. Hopefully it's the fixed version, and not the one with the bad version of TBO that was originally released through HDTracks.

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They could have easily made this into a must-have by including a couple of previously unreleased tracks and/or versions.

Not having the 12 inch versions, mixes and b-sides and the videos on there is a crime. It's a BluRay so it could easily fit all that on it.

Well, they probably keep that for the if-ever-planned-next 'Purple Rain SDE'.

Vannormal said:

NICKthebrick said:

So I guess you can't play this on a normal CD player. I wouldn't buy it anyway. The current estate is awful

Probably you can, but you'll not hear the full Atmos experience.

this is what I found, wanted to check it myself :

"Ensure your Blu-ray player supports Dolby Atmos. Most newer models, particularly 4K Ultra HD players, come equipped with this capability. Audio System: You'll need a sound system that can decode Dolby Atmos."

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I guess Nickthebrick meant to ask about playability on "a normal BluRay player", as playing a BluRay on a CD player would never work, of course. So Vannormal's response is correct.
I just want to add that having one of those "Atmos-capable soundbars" that are so popular these days might not be enough either, as even in the best case they can only imitate an Atmos sound, in an ideal, imaginary room that rarely exists in real life. For a real Atmos-experience you need at least a 5.1.2-, but preferably a 9.1.2-speaker setup.

AvocadosMax said:

I asked Grok to provide an analysis of the overall consensus fans have with the estate in 2025: Key Points • Research suggests Prince fans are generally dissatisfied with the estate’s management in 2025, feeling frustrated by the lack of new music releases and focus on niche products. • It seems likely that fans are critical of the estate’s handling of a canceled Netflix documentary, seeing it as blocking deeper insights into Prince’s life. • The evidence leans toward fans hoping for future releases, like a super deluxe edition, but overall sentiment remains negative, with some excitement for the estate’s planned documentary. Direct Answer Fan Sentiment Overview
As of March 2025, Prince fans appear largely unhappy with how the Prince Estate is managing his music and legacy. Many feel frustrated by the slow pace of new music releases, with fans noting no major projects like super deluxe editions or demos dropped in 2024. Instead, the estate has focused on items like the recent “Purple Rain” Blu-ray, which fans criticize for lacking bonuses and feeling like a niche, low-value release. Controversy Around the Netflix Documentary
A big point of contention is the estate’s decision to block a Netflix documentary by Ezra Edelman, announced canceled in early February 2025. Fans are split—some are upset, feeling it prevents a deeper look at Prince’s life, while others are curious about the estate’s planned alternative. The estate’s X post about the “vault being freed” sparked mixed reactions, with some hoping for new content but skepticism remaining high. Hope for the Future
There’s some hope among fans that upcoming events, like the Celebration, might bring announcements for new releases, such as a super deluxe edition. However, the overall mood is one of disappointment, with fans feeling the estate prioritizes revenue from merchandise and tourism over music that honors Prince’s creative depth. Unexpected Detail: Legal Battles Impact
An interesting twist is that fans attribute some delays to a legal battle with Netflix over a $10+ million deal, which they believe is holding up vault releases. This adds a layer of complexity to why fans are frustrated, beyond just the estate’s choices. Survey Note: Detailed Analysis of Fan Consensus on the Prince Estate in 2025 This detailed analysis explores the overall consensus among Prince fans regarding the Prince Estate’s management of Prince’s music and legacy as of March 9, 2025, drawing from recent online discussions, articles, and fan forums. The investigation aims to provide a comprehensive overview, considering fan reactions to recent estate actions, such as the canceled Netflix documentary and new releases, while addressing the user’s interest in the estate’s strategy and fan sentiment. Background and Context Prince, who passed away on April 21, 2016, left behind a vast catalog of music and unreleased material known as “the vault.” The Prince Estate, managed by heirs, associates, and Primary Wave since 2022, has been responsible for releasing new music, reissues, and managing his legacy. As of 2025, fans have expressed varied opinions, particularly around the estate’s handling of vault releases, documentary projects, and recent physical releases like the “Purple Rain” Blu-ray on April 25, 2025. Fan Sentiment and Criticisms Research suggests that the predominant sentiment among fans is dissatisfaction, with many feeling the estate has not met expectations for new music releases. A message board post on prince.org from March 9, 2025, captures this frustration, with fans reacting negatively to the “Purple Rain Soundtrack on Blu-ray Audio,” calling it a “barebones release with no bonuses” and criticizing the poor quality of the Dolby Atmos mix. Comments like “AGHHHHHHHHHH FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK” and “The current estate is awful” reflect strong discontent, with fans feeling the estate is wasting money on niche products rather than comprehensive, high-quality content. A Reddit thread from January 31, 2025, on r/PRINCE further highlights this, with fans noting no major projects (super deluxe editions, demos) released in 2024 and questioning the estate’s inactivity. One commenter, Ok_Sky4673, scored 10, expressed disappointment over the lack of releases, while others like Safe_Knowledge9934 (score 7, 9) pointed to a legal battle with Netflix over a $10+ million deal, blocking vault footage and delaying releases. Fans also criticize the estate’s strategy, perceived as pushing wearable merchandise, Paisley Park tourism, and a stage musical over music, as noted by eltedioso and meowmeow6770 on Reddit. This focus on revenue streams rather than vault releases has led to comments like “Prince’s legacy has become a real mess and Parody!” on the prince.org board, indicating a sense of betrayal among fans. Aspect: Lack of New Releases in 2024 | Details: No major projects (super deluxe, demos, etc.) released, questioning estate’s inactivity. | Source/Commenter: Ok_Sky4673 (Post Author) | Score: 10 | URLs: -
Aspect: Netflix Legal Issue Impact | Details: Estate and Netflix in legal battle over $10+ million deal, blocking vault releases. | Source/Commenter: Safe_Knowledge9934 | Score: 7, 9 | URLs: https://x.com/londellmcmi...1497?s=46, https://x.com/londellmcmi...6962?s=46, https://x.com/londellmcmi...0042?s=46, https://x.com/LondellMcMi...
Aspect: Estate Strategy and Revenue | Details: Pushing wearable merch, Paisley Park tourism, stage musical; holding back vault for revenue. | Source/Commenter: eltedioso, meowmeow6770 | Score: 3, 2 | URLs: -
Aspect: Fan Opinions on Estate Management | Details: Mixed: Envious of Michael Jackson’s estate (mikewelsh38, score 2), critical of family/partners (NoteMountain1989, score 1) for collecting royalties without growth. | Source/Commenter: mikewelsh38, NoteMountain1989, others | Score: 2, 1 | URLs: -
Aspect: Potential Future Releases | Details: Mention of releasing more concert footage, private screening of D&P at Glam Slam noted. | Source/Commenter: LookFit5442 | Score: 2 | URLs: -
Aspect: Estate’s Motive for Blocking | Details: Speculate blocking Netflix doc to maintain “supernatural” image for marketing, despite fans embracing his human side. | Source/Commenter: Realistic-Winner-899, FernandoMachado | Score: 1, 2 | - This table, from the Reddit thread, organizes fan opinions, showing a mix of frustration and skepticism, with scores indicating engagement levels. Controversy Around the Netflix Documentary A significant point of contention is the estate’s decision to block Ezra Edelman’s nine-hour Netflix documentary, announced canceled on February 7, 2025, after a mutual agreement with Netflix. The estate accused the film of factual inaccuracies and sensationalism, as reported by Variety. Fans have mixed reactions: some, like those on Sportskeeda, expressed “Do the documentary now” after the estate’s X post on February 5, 2025, with “The Vault Has Been Freed. #FREE,” suggesting hope for new content. However, others, as seen in The Washington Post, opposed the original doc, arguing Prince’s White peers like David Bowie haven’t faced similar scrutiny, while Questlove saw it as a chance to humanize Black male artists. The estate’s plan to produce its own documentary, announced in February 2025, has sparked curiosity but also skepticism, with fans on Lipstick Alley guessing at a new super deluxe edition (SDE) in 2025, yet expressing caution about its quality. Ezra Edelman’s comments in Ultimate Classic Rock on March 5, 2025, revealed the estate’s fear of showing Prince’s humanity, adding fuel to fan debates about control over his image. Hope for Future Releases Despite the negativity, there’s some hope among fans for future releases. The prince.org board mentions speculation that the estate will announce an SDE at the Celebration event, with comments like “They will keep the SDE announcement until the celebration and make a big thing about it” (Reply #23, #27). Reddit users like LookFit5442 (score 2) mention potential concert footage releases, with a private screening of Diamonds and Pearls at Glam Slam in Minneapolis noted. However, this hope is tempered by past disappointments, like the 2023 Diamonds and Pearls Atmos Blu-ray with no bonuses, as per Reply #25 on prince.org. Unexpected Detail: Legal and Financial Complexities An interesting layer is the legal battle with Netflix, detailed in X posts by Londell McMillan (https://x.com/londellmcmillan/status/1834916630498791497?s=46, https://x.com/londellmcmi...6962?s=46, etc.), which fans believe is holding up vault releases. This adds complexity, as fans attribute delays not just to estate choices but external legal fights, a detail not always highlighted in mainstream discussions. Conclusion and Implications Based on the information, the overall consensus among Prince fans in 2025 is one of dissatisfaction, driven by the lack of new music, criticism of recent releases like the “Purple Rain” Blu-ray, and frustration over the Netflix documentary saga. While there’s hope for future announcements, the predominant mood is negative, with fans feeling the estate prioritizes profit over preserving Prince’s creative legacy. The legal battles with Netflix add an unexpected layer, explaining some delays, but do little to ease fan discontent. This analysis ensures a thorough exploration, aligning with the user’s query for detailed fan consensus, and provides a foundation for understanding the estate’s challenges in 2025. Key Citations • Prince.org Message Board fan reactions to Purple Rain Blu-ray • Reddit r/PRINCE discussion on estate management • Sportskeeda fans react to vault freed post • Variety article on Netflix documentary cancellation • Washington Post on Prince documentary cancellation • Ultimate Classic Rock Edelman comments on estate • Lipstick Alley discussion on estate and Netflix deal

Let me sum this up 4 u.

F*ck the Estate.

We really didn't need a wall of AI-generated garbage to summarize that fans are fed up with the estate

bozojones said:

sexton said:

olb99 said:

Well, a blanket can keep me warm. A Blu-ray of something we've had since last year? Maybe as a coaster?

The estate already sells blankets. You would prefer another one?

Not everyone streams their music so for those who don't, this Blu-ray makes the Dolby ATMOS mix of Purple Rain accessible to them finally. I suppose you would also be against pressing onto CDs the four digital-only albums released in the 00s.

No, no, I'm not against anything. First, I'm half-joking. And more seriously: sell blankets, release Blu-rays, CDs, and vinyls of previously released material. It's all good. It's just very underwhelming when no serious collection of previously unreleased music has been released in more than 16 months.

Nothing new. I'm just venting.

I'm confident we'll see something of interest in the future. Hopefully this year.

bozojones said:

We really didn't need a wall of AI-generated garbage to summarize that fans are fed up with the estate

Exactly, 5 trees cut to know what we already know since many trees ago.

jimino1 said:

Vannormal said:

NICKthebrick said:

So I guess you can't play this on a normal CD player. I wouldn't buy it anyway. The current estate is awful

Probably you can

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IT IS A BLU-RAY. CD players don't play Blu-rays.

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JFC.

JorisE73 said:

bizzie said:

This release was announced almost nine months ago. Despite literally nothing happening, you lot still couldn't retain that tiny bit on info and now get upset.

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Also, this is a shit release. Not because it is PR, because it is a barebones release with no bonuses, e.g. officially released extended versions etc. in Hi-Res. And because the Dolby Atmos mix is pretty bad.

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But at least we're getting the original 1984 PR master in Hi-Res. Hopefully it's the fixed version, and not the one with the bad version of TBO that was originally released through HDTracks.

.

They could have easily made this into a must-have by including a couple of previously unreleased tracks and/or versions.

Not having the 12 inch versions, mixes and b-sides and the videos on there is a crime. It's a BluRay so it could easily fit all that on it.

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They didn't even bother including the David Leonard Atmos mis of When Doves Cry.

BTW Grateful Dead recently announced a 60CD box set (yes, SIXTY discs) of previously unreleased live recordings. A while ago they did a 24LP box set of four live recordings.

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But to believe Prince fans, "there is no money to be made with physical releases".

It's not about money. It's just caring about the music.