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Vannormal said:
Again... exactly. Again, Edelman/ Netflix didn't want to proceed to corrections from the estate. The estate wanted to go back to 6 hours of footage, meaning there was no less than an estimated 3 hours to clean. Apparently, if they Can salvage that Doc with 4/5/6 hours of footage, that means that all the narration, the storytelling was directed towards a lot of moral issues from Prince life. He acted violently with women because he was sexually molested by his uncle, then he took drugs because he felt insecure, that is reflected in that song, that performance, etc. I Heard the Doc about the 1st avenue 1983 would show Prince on stage and in the wings during the concert. That is the Doc to absolutely release, it shows Prince just before he became a superstar, and that concert indirectly is for something in that ( since it includes Purple Rain). That's just what people need to learn from Prince privacy. [Edited 2/10/25 12:22pm] [Edited 2/10/25 12:22pm] | |
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Prince chose to work with people all his life. Sure, he only sang about Prince and tried to keep Prince Rogers Nelson away from us, that's what he thought he did anyway. Okey. Only, the world unfortuantely doesn't work like that, it's quite mean to those who want to be a star, certainly to those with hidden issues. Just the way it unfortunately is, & I don't like it either. Those who worked for and with him now get a forum, albeit for personal reasons or not, via a doc etc. It is what it is. I for sure want to see the uncut 9 hours one. I'm capable of understanding others personal stories the way I want. It seems like the estate suffers from lack of common sense, certainly after seeying what Edelman delivered with OJ. Or, they simply were not clear in what they wanted, and probably were bedazzled by smelling money from Netflix and this big doc maker name, without thinking for a moment what it meant to let them use everyone and everything from the vault in the first place. Edelman's hunt was obviously not for Prince, but for much more. Whatever. I agree on those forgettable documentaries created by Netflix. But I still want to see the uncut 9h. "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts." (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972) | |
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"He acted violently with women because he was sexually molested by his uncle". Is that the truth or conjecture? Let's not rumor monger. 3121 #1 THIS YEAR | |
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bashraka said:
"He acted violently with women because he was sexually molested by his uncle". Is that the truth or conjecture? Let's not rumor monger. It is from what has been said about that documentary from people claiming they did. I do not share that point of view. [Edited 2/10/25 22:24pm] | |
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I thought it was the step-father who abused him. Never heard anything about an uncle. | |
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paisleyparkgirl said:
I thought it was the step-father who abused him. Never heard anything about an uncle. You 're right ! My Brain plays me tricks. You Can seize the essence of that doc. [Edited 2/11/25 5:40am] [Edited 2/11/25 5:41am] | |
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RODSERLING said: paisleyparkgirl said:
I thought it was the step-father who abused him. Never heard anything about an uncle. You 're right ! My brain plays me tricks. You Can seize the essence of that doc. [Edited 2/11/25 5:40am] | |
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I mean, I didn't know that it was included in the doc, I know that Duane's daughter Brianna Nelson read his diaries last year where a lot was revealed (including the abuse), she also said that she had been contacted by Netflix but the family was trying to silence her. | |
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paisleyparkgirl said:
I mean, I didn't know that it was included in the doc, I know that Duane's daughter Brianna Nelson read his diaries last year where a lot was revealed (including the abuse), she also said that she had been contacted by Netflix but the family was trying to silence her. And how would you know she read his diaries and what is inside? | |
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A bunch of hearsay... "Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
https://youtu.be/CVwv9LZMah0 | |
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Stop making up goofy nonsense. Graycap23 was ME! | |
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paisleyparkgirl said:
I mean, I didn't know that it was included in the doc, I know that Duane's daughter Brianna Nelson read his diaries last year where a lot was revealed (including the abuse), she also said that she had been contacted by Netflix but the family was trying to silence her. I watched her vid in full. They were her father's diaries not Prince's. No one could accidentally make that mistake. Time keeps on slipping into the future...
This moment is all there is... | |
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I am really happy it won’t be released. Ezra wasn’t even a fan of Prince and several people interviewed said the questioning was looking for dirt. And then that weird NY times articles like Prince was Epstein or something. And the stuff they cited about him wasn’t major. Jill assaulted him and he responded and band members they got fired wanted to stay with Prince. This is probably the most attention Jill has ever gotten in Prince world. She seems bitter and wanting to make her dynamic with Prince into to more than just being one of the harem. Prince didn’t seem that into her and he didn’t take her in public like Vanity. Seemed like the director took the bitter viewpoint of a few peoooe from the 80s and tried to define him by it. | |
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Zakia said: I am really happy it won’t be released. Ezra wasn’t even a fan of Prince and several people interviewed said the questioning was looking for dirt. And then that weird NY times articles like Prince was Epstein or something. And the stuff they cited about him wasn’t major. Jill assaulted him and he responded and band members they got fired wanted to stay with Prince. This is probably the most attention Jill has ever gotten in Prince world. She seems bitter and wanting to make her dynamic with Prince into to more than just being one of the harem. Prince didn’t seem that into her and he didn’t take her in public like Vanity. Seemed like the director took the bitter viewpoint of a few peoooe from the 80s and tried to define him by it. I'm sure Mr Edelman isn't much a fan of murderous OJ Simpson, either. Yet he somehow managed to create an Oscar winning film which documented his story. | |
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This makes almost ZERO sense. Graycap23 was ME! | |
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The Banned Prince Documentary: Director Ezra Edelman Speaks | PTFO https://youtu.be/X93Y4ECBCeA [Edited 3/4/25 17:11pm] | |
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You're right - comparing OJ and Prince is absurd. One was literally tried for murder with mountains of evidence and public documentation, while the other was a musical genius whose private life was deliberately mysterious. A documentary built on bitter ex-associates' claims is nothing like covering an established criminal case. The comparison completely misses how different these situations actually are. "New Power slide...." | |
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You should kindly start a new thread with this link. "Whatever skin we're in
we all need 2 b friends" | |
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Now i want to see the docu EVEN MORE!!! "Whatever skin we're in
we all need 2 b friends" | |
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skywalker said:
You're right - comparing OJ and Prince is absurd. One was literally tried for murder with mountains of evidence and public documentation, while the other was a musical genius whose private life was deliberately mysterious. A documentary built on bitter ex-associates' claims is nothing like covering an established criminal case. The comparison completely misses how different these situations actually are. Nobody's comparing prince and OJ...anywhere. If there's a comparison implied, it would be between Ezra Edelman and ersatz unnamed preferred documentarian and their ability to create an award worthy film. As for 'built on bitter ex-associates blah blah blah'...that's hardly accurate. Because a film contains unflattering revelations doesn't mean there's intent to denigrate the subject. Humans are messy and mean and flawed and vindictive, etc. Just as they are kind and philanthropic and talented, etc. Edelman's OJ film didn't elucidate just a criminal case. It is a portrait , by an artist, of a man who did a lot of great things and a few really bad things...like people do. [Edited 3/4/25 21:13pm] | |
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andrewcherry said: Wow! Great interview by Ezra. | |
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same here | |
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Even the most devoted Prince fans couldn't ignore his reputation for being a loathsome prick.
[Edited 3/4/25 21:29pm] Givin' up food for funk. | |
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Same, I share the same thoughts as Ezra. | |
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Seems the simps at the Estate don't understand this. Graycap23 was ME! | |
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The YouTube clip with the director of the shelved documentary is must watch. He asks the interviewer, who is 39 and who was only casually aware of Prince, if the documentary, which he was able to watch, made him more of fan of the man. He said, Absolutely! It humanized the interviewer and left him, a person who was not a fan before watching the film, in total awe of him and wanting to learn more. Warts and all! #FreeThePrinceDoc | |
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The circle jerk between Edelman and the interviewer is nauseating. The poor-put-upon act from the director is getting old. Edelman expected the estate to greenlight posthumous accusations of abuse on the estate's dime? Keep it moving, bruh. 3121 #1 THIS YEAR | |
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