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Thread started 08/31/24 5:16pm

shakalakaboom

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thoughts from a long-time lurker

I have to admit that I come here at least once a week, I click on the forum button, and I hope. I am filled with expectation. I click on the forum link and I think:

"today is the day, today is finally the day where we get some news about a new SDE. Today is the day when they announce a vault series, or some new cool collection, or a download site for ephemera and oddities! TODAY!"

And so the 40th anniversary of Purple Rain comes and goes. A colored vinyl is available, but... errr... who cares.

I was perfectly happy with the Purple Rain that came out just after Prince died (well, not the horrible remaster), if only because some of those unreleased tracks were real favorites. I didn't mind the quality of a few of them either. Cassette quality sounded fine to me, as I had the old school muddy distorted versions we had to make do with since the 80's.

But WHAT. THE. FUCK.

Nothing really released at all? I've kept myself gloriously stupid about the running of his estate: the players, the family, the legalese, everything. But it feels like these are such EASY decisions to make about an artist's legacy. Don't these people in charge benefit from us buying new product? SO GET IT OUT.

the stupidity, or laziness, or ineptitude is astounding.

ALSO: we, the original fans who bought his vinyl albums WHEN THEY WERE ORIGINALLY RELEASED and dutifully bought the cassettes and then CDs, are not getting any younger. without some big push (like a comprehensive documentary about his life and career) a new young audience won't know who the hell he is in five years. and the rest of us will be gone in the next 20. NOW IS THE TIME TO ACT.

But they don't, and I don't understand why. They have to come here and read all of this. Perhaps there is a big secret giant release coming for the Christmas season, as has happened before. Perhaps! but still no leaks? It is nearly September. Give us something to look forward to!

Um, I think that is about it. Back to posting every few years. Carry on. I enjoy the sniping and pettiness.

XOXO

[Edited 8/31/24 19:56pm]

if you could just pass your history class, baby, life would be all right.
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Reply #1 posted 09/02/24 2:55am

Vannormal

shakalakaboom said:

I have to admit that I come here at least once a week, I click on the forum button, and I hope. I am filled with expectation. I click on the forum link and I think:

"today is the day, today is finally the day where we get some news about a new SDE. Today is the day when they announce a vault series, or some new cool collection, or a download site for ephemera and oddities! TODAY!"

(...).

ALSO: we, the original fans who bought his vinyl albums WHEN THEY WERE ORIGINALLY RELEASED and dutifully bought the cassettes and then CDs, are not getting any younger. without some big push (like a comprehensive documentary about his life and career) a new young audience won't know who the hell he is in five years. and the rest of us will be gone in the next 20. NOW IS THE TIME TO ACT.

(...)

I think that is about it. Back to posting every few years. Carry on. I enjoy the sniping and pettiness.

XOXO

To be honest, I think we are all undergoing and expecting the exact same thing here.
We open our computer, click on the pre-programmed Prince.org icon (which is first or second on our computer screens, i presume wink ) and all of us drift on impossibly fulfilling expectations.... which then turn out to be “the same old same old nothing, no news at all.
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But, honestly, rest assured that the folks at Prince LLC and The Estate know that we are all sitting around with half-century-old a fat wallet waiting for new releases.

Sure they realise all too well that we are eager for new releases, and are willing of instant deposit and even wait six months for just something or little.
But, they have apparently driven themselves legally ... into contracts and probably unreviewable decisions for the purpose of making a lot of money (there's nothing wrong with that tbh).
Well, it's only the wait that's left for all of us i'm affraid.

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But, as I said in another post, let's not sit still in the meantime, and try to join forces, and make our voices heard about what formats and combined possibilities there still are left for possible (new) future plans, new possible releases.

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Looking forward to your next post in a few years then. wink ...or sooner, when news is coming.

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #2 posted 09/02/24 11:21am

Gooddoctor23

All good points but the reality is the people who run this estate don't give a damn about Prince or his fans.

They remind me of a pro sports owner who has no interest in winning so they pretend they are making a trade or signing a good player only 4 the deal 2 never happen. The fans get excited only 2 be let down yet again. Once this Estate got that initial windfall of the closed probate.......they are pretending. Now that the assets are now in their possession. Some have died, sold rights, and hired people who dont have Prince or the fans interest in mind.

The results are clear.

We can keep fooling ourselves but the reality is that less and less material will be released over time, even thou Prince more vault material than anyone. We will all be dead and gone and the vault material will still be unreleased. How the hell does this make any sense?

This is a sad state of affairs but once it was stated that Prince had no will, this was as predictable as rain. and that rain is NOT purple, it is just b.s.

[Edited 9/2/24 12:23pm]

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Reply #3 posted 09/02/24 12:47pm

MIRvmn1

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It seems like they can't release the First Avenue '83 show due to Netflix and that's the reason they didn’t bother releasing any PR SDE this year which is really a shame. But how hard can it be to replace that show so they can release the set? Or is Netflix preventing the estate from releasing any PR concert footage? In that case, just release the prince SDE so we get something this year. They refuse to tell us about their plans, if there are any. At this point, I don't expect anything from the estate except more disappointment.
U are now an official member of the New Power Generation
Welcome 2 The Dawn
Free the prince SDE now!
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Reply #4 posted 09/02/24 2:58pm

SoulAlive

MIRvmn1 said:

It seems like they can't release the First Avenue '83 show due to Netflix and that's the reason they didn’t bother releasing any PR SDE this year which is really a shame.


It’s a shame indeed because,not only are we NOT getting those two projects (SDE and 1st Avenue blu-ray),we are also not getting a 9-hour Prince documentary.One cancelled project after another.It’s ridiculous.
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Reply #5 posted 09/02/24 4:21pm

SoulAlive

I’ve said this before: we should be getting at least two SDEs a year,in addition to live concert DVD/blu-ray sets.The music is already recorded! The shows are already filmed! I really don’t understand what the problem is.


[Edited 9/2/24 16:22pm]
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Reply #6 posted 09/02/24 5:59pm

SoulAlive

and let’s not forget the Love Symbol SDE and (possible) Parade SDE,all collecting dust in the vaults rolleyes

Oh well…like I said in the other thread..I guess we can just look forward to the Purple Rain musical cast album next year,filled with a bunch of stage “actors” singing those songs.Sounds exciting,huh?
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Reply #7 posted 09/02/24 6:38pm

Gooddoctor23

SoulAlive said:

and let’s not forget the Love Symbol SDE and (possible) Parade SDE,all collecting dust in the vaults rolleyes Oh well…like I said in the other thread..I guess we can just look forward to the Purple Rain musical cast album next year,filled with a bunch of stage “actors” singing those songs.Sounds exciting,huh?

man I really hate that I was 100% right about this Estate: Complete SH*T.

Graycap23 was ME!
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Reply #8 posted 09/02/24 7:08pm

MIRvmn1

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SoulAlive said:

and let’s not forget the Love Symbol SDE and (possible) Parade SDE,all collecting dust in the vaults rolleyes

Oh well…like I said in the other thread..I guess we can just look forward to the Purple Rain musical cast album next year,filled with a bunch of stage “actors” singing those songs.Sounds exciting,huh?

It really bothers me that they still haven’t released the prince SDE since the set is ready to go. What’s the hold-up? What are they waiting for? It should have been released in December last year so they could've focused on the PR SDE this year, but it seems like we won't get that set either. The estate really deserves all the criticism they get smile
U are now an official member of the New Power Generation
Welcome 2 The Dawn
Free the prince SDE now!
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Reply #9 posted 09/03/24 12:59pm

happyshopper

SoulAlive said:

and let’s not forget the Love Symbol SDE and (possible) Parade SDE,all collecting dust in the vaults rolleyes

Oh well…like I said in the other thread..I guess we can just look forward to the Purple Rain musical cast album next year,filled with a bunch of stage “actors” singing those songs.Sounds exciting,huh?


I think Love Symbol is 90% done. Just needed some extra vault tracks.
Parade SDE never got as far as people assumed. But could be next on the cards still.
Let’s see!
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Reply #10 posted 09/03/24 2:09pm

BalladofPeterP
arker

shakalakaboom said:

I have to admit that I come here at least once a week, I click on the forum button, and I hope. I am filled with expectation. I click on the forum link and I think:

"today is the day, today is finally the day where we get some news about a new SDE. Today is the day when they announce a vault series, or some new cool collection, or a download site for ephemera and oddities! TODAY!"

And so the 40th anniversary of Purple Rain comes and goes. A colored vinyl is available, but... errr... who cares.

I was perfectly happy with the Purple Rain that came out just after Prince died (well, not the horrible remaster), if only because some of those unreleased tracks were real favorites. I didn't mind the quality of a few of them either. Cassette quality sounded fine to me, as I had the old school muddy distorted versions we had to make do with since the 80's.

But WHAT. THE. FUCK.

Nothing really released at all? I've kept myself gloriously stupid about the running of his estate: the players, the family, the legalese, everything. But it feels like these are such EASY decisions to make about an artist's legacy. Don't these people in charge benefit from us buying new product? SO GET IT OUT.

the stupidity, or laziness, or ineptitude is astounding.

ALSO: we, the original fans who bought his vinyl albums WHEN THEY WERE ORIGINALLY RELEASED and dutifully bought the cassettes and then CDs, are not getting any younger. without some big push (like a comprehensive documentary about his life and career) a new young audience won't know who the hell he is in five years. and the rest of us will be gone in the next 20. NOW IS THE TIME TO ACT.

But they don't, and I don't understand why. They have to come here and read all of this. Perhaps there is a big secret giant release coming for the Christmas season, as has happened before. Perhaps! but still no leaks? It is nearly September. Give us something to look forward to!

Um, I think that is about it. Back to posting every few years. Carry on. I enjoy the sniping and pettiness.

XOXO

[Edited 8/31/24 19:56pm]

You articulated my feelings perfectly. It's a damn shame the caretakers of Prince's Musical legacy don't seem to give a shit.

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Reply #11 posted 09/03/24 4:10pm

Gooddoctor23

This Estate is Beyond Redemption

Like a coupon past its due date

Fans begging 4 the Exemption

When all they Receive is bait..........wait.........and hate.

Graycap23 was ME!
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