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Reply #60 posted 08/01/24 3:20pm

rap

If Primary Wave made overtures to Tyka and bought that remaining 2%, would that give them a controlling interest?

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Reply #61 posted 08/02/24 12:27am

johnpiex

I agree that this is the Prince Estate trying to save face for failing to release the PR SDE this year, which is the ball drop of the century imo. They know what we were expecting, and they know they failed to deliver, for whatever reason. It seems they think the problems will be ironed out by 2025. However, if it doesn't come next year, they should fire themselves.

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Reply #62 posted 08/02/24 3:27am

leecaldon

RODSERLING said:

Seriously, since Londell MakeMillions is running The Estate, he publicly said they would not be doing SDE anymore. Because it's too much time and money for so little revenues. They just released D&P because 1) It was already done 2) So basically the R&D costs were about zero Now that they saw that was such a niche the costly way they are selling that material, they won't be doing it anymore, even if we know Love Symbol SDE is already done. Now, all they wish to exploit from Purple Rain is the 1983 live at 1st avenue. Why? Because it has already been completed and remastered by the previous estate. MakeMillions will run the Prince estate the same way those bastards of MJ estate are running their business. Unreleased material doesn't worth a penny, but musicals, licensing music, biopic, etc. Are where the big money is. And they all don't care about the artist.

When did he say this?

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Reply #63 posted 08/02/24 5:16am

lustmealways

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SDE's are a stupid and narrow minded format for releases. That being said, if the only alternative is NOTHING because they're too lazy to put thought into it, then yeah keep the SDE's coming. Just ridiculous.

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Reply #64 posted 08/02/24 5:52am

MIRvmn1

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johnpiex said:

I agree that this is the Prince Estate trying to save face for failing to release the PR SDE this year, which is the ball drop of the century imo. They know what we were expecting, and they know they failed to deliver, for whatever reason. It seems they think the problems will be ironed out by 2025. However, if it doesn't come next year, they should fire themselves.


Yes it's a huge failure that they didn't manage to release the PR SDE this year or at least the First Avenue '83 show. Everyone was expecting some kind of release but I think we all knew the estate would screw up in one way or another, which they did.
U are now an official member of the New Power Generation
Welcome 2 The Dawn
Free the prince SDE now!
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Reply #65 posted 08/02/24 7:04am

bozojones

Just take a look at any Prince or Paisley Park social media post, and note all of the comments of casual fans gushing over gaudy merchandise or shoe displays at the museum. Those are the folks that Londell is catering to - people who are easily impressed and willing to throw down money for low quality bullshit.

The estate is never going to bother putting out vault releases again as long as Londell and Charles are in charge. I sincerely believe that.

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Reply #66 posted 08/02/24 7:05am

ghostof82

That email is the funniest thing I've read this week. Did they forget about the music? Prince filled that vault full of music and nobody's bothered enough to release it. Incredible.
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Reply #67 posted 08/02/24 7:34am

SIrSighALot

RODSERLING said:[quote]Seriously, since Londell MakeMillions is running The Estate, he publicly said they would not be doing SDE anymore. Because it's too much time and money for so little revenues.


link to his public statement? or has it been suddenly deleted..
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Reply #68 posted 08/02/24 7:39am

MIRvmn1

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SIrSighALot said:[quote]

RODSERLING said:

Seriously, since Londell MakeMillions is running The Estate, he publicly said they would not be doing SDE anymore. Because it's too much time and money for so little revenues.


link to his public statement? or has it been suddenly deleted..

If I recall correctly it was Sharon Nelson who once said that SDEs cost to much to produce but that was two years ago.
U are now an official member of the New Power Generation
Welcome 2 The Dawn
Free the prince SDE now!
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Reply #69 posted 08/02/24 8:12am

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MIRvmn1 said:

SIrSighALot said:
RODSERLING said:
Seriously, since Londell MakeMillions is running The Estate, he publicly said they would not be doing SDE anymore. Because it's too much time and money for so little revenues. link to his public statement? or has it been suddenly deleted..
If I recall correctly it was Sharon Nelson who once said that SDEs cost to much to produce but that was two years ago.

The same who said that the Vault needed to be bring back to Paisley Park because the archiving work cost too much.....seriously....heirs or Mc Millan is a curse for Prince Estate!

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Reply #70 posted 08/02/24 9:58am

fredmagnus

Sharon, Londell, Charles are all to be thrown in the same garbage can.
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Reply #71 posted 08/02/24 1:37pm

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fredmagnus said:

Sharon, Londell, Charles are all to be thrown in the same garbage can.



I agree
lol
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Reply #72 posted 08/02/24 2:17pm

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fredmagnus said:

Sharon, Londell, Charles are all to be thrown in the same garbage can.

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

https://youtu.be/CVwv9LZMah0
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Reply #73 posted 08/02/24 2:36pm

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^that's fucked up, what you did.

Morris don't like it, and i don't like it, either.

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we all need 2 b friends"
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Reply #74 posted 08/03/24 12:42am

erik319

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Just stop buying fucking bedsheets and totebags & paying extortionate amounts to go to Celebrations.

It's that simple. If they only make money out of his music, they'll release more music.
blah blah blah
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Reply #75 posted 08/03/24 1:29am

strawberrylett
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This Estate is giving less to the fans than the OJ estate is to the Goldman family

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Reply #76 posted 08/03/24 1:44am

SIrSighALot

strawberryletter23 said:

This Estate is giving less to the fans than the OJ estate is to the Goldman family




lmao you aint right for this 😅
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Reply #77 posted 08/03/24 4:04am

RODSERLING

SIrSighALot said:[quote]

RODSERLING said:

Seriously, since Londell MakeMillions is running The Estate, he publicly said they would not be doing SDE anymore. Because it's too much time and money for so little revenues.


link to his public statement? or has it been suddenly deleted..


He tweeted about it, IIRC he was asked and said the way the previous estate released material for fans was stupid, too costly, etc.
So what were they doing beside releasing SDE.
They don't want to release physical box sets anymore.

Sony also gave up fast to release the catalogue post -WB. Which was stupid since the ones who would have sold better were the ones they didn't release : Chocolate Invasion, Slaughter house, and other NPGMC releases that weren't officially release in public stores.

So they threw out some bones for RSD ( Gold, The Truth) but they even stopped that.
I think they went too far with the Emancipation 6-LP.
[Edited 8/3/24 4:07am]
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Reply #78 posted 08/03/24 4:23am

fredmagnus

erik319 said:

Just stop buying fucking bedsheets and totebags & paying extortionate amounts to go to Celebrations.

It's that simple. If they only make money out of his music, they'll release more music.


Indeed. This is a crazy situation.
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Reply #79 posted 08/03/24 4:48am

ghostof82

Probably right- stop buying the tat and going to the Celebrations and the Estate will soon change tack. If SDEs are too expensive - and I refuse to accept that, as so many other artists and labels release them with success-then release 'new' albums of vault material.
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Reply #80 posted 08/04/24 12:36am

Gooddoctor23

I told u guys this Estate was trash from day 1.

There are NO surrpises here.

When an underdeserving group gets their hands on money,

everything goes 2 shit.

These people have zero interest in preserving anything related 2 Prince.

When he was alive, he didn't deal with any of them.

What does that tell u?

[Edited 8/9/24 2:38am]

Graycap23 was ME!
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Reply #81 posted 08/04/24 3:39pm

MIRvmn1

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They didn't even bother to release a couple of singles during the PR celebration like they did with Musicology earlier this year. Maybe because they knew people would expect a PR SDE if they did.
U are now an official member of the New Power Generation
Welcome 2 The Dawn
Free the prince SDE now!
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Reply #82 posted 08/11/24 4:59am

CalhounCircle

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Maybe we'll get a 40th Anniversary ATWIAD SDE to make up for the epic PR SDE fail, but I'm not holding my breath confused

See, conversation’s better than bein’ lonely…
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Reply #83 posted 08/12/24 3:39am

leecaldon

If they're going to continue to celebrate PR into 2025, might that be an indication that a PR Super Deluxe could come later? Total speculation, and I'm not sure how linked the two things are.

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Reply #84 posted 08/13/24 7:08am

AZStreet

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I haven't received one yet, but my friends forward me this from PP yesterday.

This only works for people who live in MN. Others need to buy flights, hotel, rideshare/rental...in order to use the code. SMH

I guessss they are trying? We don't need PR 2.0 though!

Hello Purple Fam!

We understand that you were dissatisfied with the duration of your tour at Celebration 2024. Rest assured that this will be rectified during Celebration 2025. In the meantime, we would like to extend a gratis Paisley Experience tour to all 2024 VIP ticket holders. Come back and see the evolution of The Purple Rain Experience through the end of the year!


We sincerely thank you for you patronage, and we hope to see you soon!


To redeem your free tour:

Use promo Code (I have removed code) when booking a Paisley Experience tour via our website.

"You know, this is funky but I wish he'd play like he used to, old scragglyhead son of a...*smack* OOH!"

"Who's the foo singing will it's would"
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Reply #85 posted 08/13/24 5:55pm

CRM

erik319 said:

Just stop buying fucking bedsheets and totebags & paying extortionate amounts to go to Celebrations. It's that simple. If they only make money out of his music, they'll release more music.

Now now, I think "Come" bedsheets could be interesting.

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Reply #86 posted 08/14/24 3:02pm

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CRM said:

erik319 said:

Just stop buying fucking bedsheets and totebags & paying extortionate amounts to go to Celebrations. It's that simple. If they only make money out of his music, they'll release more music.

Now now, I think "Come" bedsheets could be interesting.

spit

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

https://youtu.be/CVwv9LZMah0
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Reply #87 posted 08/20/24 9:40pm

FunkyStrange

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Jesus what a disaster

[Edited 11/8/24 15:33pm]

Hard to believe I've been on the org for over 25 years now!
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Reply #88 posted 08/27/24 12:40pm

CandaceS

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Just saw this. WTF?! Prince isn't/wasn't a one-hit wonder, why are they dragging the PR anniversary out to cover another year?

"I would say that Prince's top thirty percent is great. Of that thirty percent, I'll bet the public has heard twenty percent of it." - Susan Rogers, "Hunting for Prince's Vault", BBC, 2015
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Reply #89 posted 08/27/24 1:18pm

CandaceS

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Gooddoctor23 said:

These people have zero interest in preserving anything related 2 Prince.

When he was alive, he didn't deal with any of them.


Londell was definitely involved with Prince during his lifetime.

"I would say that Prince's top thirty percent is great. Of that thirty percent, I'll bet the public has heard twenty percent of it." - Susan Rogers, "Hunting for Prince's Vault", BBC, 2015
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