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Thread started 07/23/24 2:55pm

ExTAFKASoladeo
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If the Estate doesn't announce/release something GOOD within the next four months....

...I am just going to give up....

And by "GOOD" I mean MUSIC THAT'S NEW...

It's just rediculous...

I am going to take my Prince Fan Energy and transfer it to, I don't know, The Beatles or The Smiths or The Cure or The 1975!!!!

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Reply #1 posted 07/23/24 3:59pm

MIRvmn1

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The silence from the estate is extremely frustrating smile It must be disappointing for Warners as well since the estate ruined the PR 40th anniversary with no interesting releases.
U are now an official member of the New Power Generation
Welcome 2 The Dawn
Free the prince SDE now!
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Reply #2 posted 07/23/24 7:05pm

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ExTAFKASoladeo1 said:

...I am just going to give up....

And by "GOOD" I mean MUSIC THAT'S NEW...

It's just rediculous...

I am going to take my Prince Fan Energy and transfer it to, I don't know, The Beatles or The Smiths or The Cure or The 1975!!!!

That's exactly what you need to do buddy. Surely Prince cannot be the only artist you like. While we wait, transfer that energy into other artists. They'll release new music when they're ready. It's not the end of the world.

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Reply #3 posted 07/23/24 7:11pm

bozojones

paisleyparkgirl said:

ExTAFKASoladeo1 said:

...I am just going to give up....

And by "GOOD" I mean MUSIC THAT'S NEW...

It's just rediculous...

I am going to take my Prince Fan Energy and transfer it to, I don't know, The Beatles or The Smiths or The Cure or The 1975!!!!

That's exactly what you need to do buddy. Surely Prince cannot be the only artist you like. While we wait, transfer that energy into other artists. They'll release new music when they're ready. It's not the end of the world.

I agree with your sentiment, but the problem is that this estate is never going to be "ready". They're completely content coasting by on overpriced merch, Celebration tickets, and reissues of the same shit everyone already has. Last year's D&P SDE was probably the last 'big' thing we'll see for a loooong time.

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Reply #4 posted 07/23/24 11:32pm

Raevene

If something was coming this year we would know about it already

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Reply #5 posted 07/24/24 12:54am

olb99

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Raevene said:

If something was coming this year we would know about it already


While this is quite likely that nothing of interest will be released in 2024, the D&P SDE, released in October 2023, was officially announced on August 24, 2023, so 2 months before the release.

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Reply #6 posted 07/24/24 1:04am

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U're right. Let's wait/give a chance till end of august....

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"Money won't buy U happiness but it'll pay 4 the search."
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Reply #7 posted 07/24/24 1:10am

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Putting energies into other artists is lame though, mainly because other artists just simply do not have the potential trove of unreleased outtakes like Prince does.


The Cure, for example. All their outtakes have been known since I got into the band, like a year before I got into Prince. Literally Robert Smith is the opposite of Prince, his mopey fans whining about their "modern" work has resulted in a mere three albums in two decades.


It's why I get aghast when I visit reddit or one of the other Prince n00b haunts. They're constantly overwhelmed by Prince's catalogue--like that's the whole friggin' appeal of Prince is the excess, are these nerds just bitter they can't binge stream the entire oeuvre in 5 hours like they do all their other favs?


Anyway I don't get why everybody keeps acting like some magical announcement is right over the horizon. Literally Londel McMillions whoever said the Netflix deal will hold stuff up in perpetuity because of the first rights deal of the Netflix contract.

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Reply #8 posted 07/24/24 1:11am

bizzie

olb99 said:

Raevene said:

If something was coming this year we would know about it already


While this is quite likely that nothing of interest will be released in 2024, the D&P SDE, released in October 2023, was officially announced on August 24, 2023, so 2 months before the release.

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Are you seriously going to pretend we knew nothing about that set before the announcement? Its Deluxe Edition had leaked in March or so. The estate had already admitted it was coming but needed to coordinate with the record labels for its release.

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Reply #9 posted 07/24/24 2:48am

fredmagnus

Waiting for the Estate to get his shit together is like waiting for a turkey to fly.

They're seeking to void the Netflix deal in order to sell the rights to another platform.

So we might very well go back from zero and wait for that new documentary to be done before we can enjoy free Vault releases. Give it another 5 years.
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Reply #10 posted 07/24/24 2:55am

olb99

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bizzie said:

olb99 said:


While this is quite likely that nothing of interest will be released in 2024, the D&P SDE, released in October 2023, was officially announced on August 24, 2023, so 2 months before the release.

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Are you seriously going to pretend we knew nothing about that set before the announcement? Its Deluxe Edition had leaked in March or so. The estate had already admitted it was coming but needed to coordinate with the record labels for its release.


That's funny. While writing what I wrote above, I had that little voice in my head: "Bart will certainly react to this." You never disappoint. lol

And, no, I'm not pretending we knew nothing about the D&P SDE. We've heard about it for years before it was officially announced. I know that. And you know that I know that.

I'm just saying that if the Estate decided to release anything ("something was coming this year"), they don't need to announce it 6 months in advance, especially if it's not a SDE box set. And especially if it's a couple of demo or random songs on YouTube.

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Reply #11 posted 07/24/24 3:05am

olb99

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Ramzoo said:

U're right. Let's wait/give a chance till end of august....

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Come on, guys (especially Bart) :

https://en.wikipedia.org/...of_charity

"In philosophy and rhetoric, the principle of charity or charitable interpretation requires interpreting a speaker's statements in the most rational way possible and, in the case of any argument, considering its best, strongest possible interpretation."

wink

I'm definitely not expecting anything in 2024. Especially anything "big" (SDE or other). I was just saying that the absence of communication from the Estate and the absence of new rumors doesn't necessarily mean we won't get anything (even a single track) before December 31, 2024. That's all.

[Edited 7/24/24 3:05am]

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Reply #12 posted 07/24/24 7:08am

Vannormal

olb99 said:

Raevene said:

If something was coming this year we would know about it already


While this is quite likely that nothing of interest will be released in 2024, the D&P SDE, released in October 2023, was officially announced on August 24, 2023, so 2 months before the release.

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[Edited 7/24/24 7:09am]

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #13 posted 07/24/24 7:14am

Trufunksoulja

paisleyparkgirl said:

ExTAFKASoladeo1 said:

...I am just going to give up....

And by "GOOD" I mean MUSIC THAT'S NEW...

It's just rediculous...

I am going to take my Prince Fan Energy and transfer it to, I don't know, The Beatles or The Smiths or The Cure or The 1975!!!!

That's exactly what you need to do buddy. Surely Prince cannot be the only artist you like. While we wait, transfer that energy into other artists. They'll release new music when they're ready. It's not the end of the world.

Ready for what?

I find it hard to believe that SDE's are not planned years ahead, especially due to the legal shenanigans.

This Estate version has failed again: missed golden Marketing oppurtunities for the PR SDE.

Or maybe they want to promote the SDE with the musical next year.

Who knows, but the silence does not make any sense.

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Reply #14 posted 07/24/24 3:53pm

ghostof82

They DID come out with that bizarre "next twelve months" statement a little while back... As if we won't be getting the Purple Rain SDE until NEXT summer....
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Reply #15 posted 07/24/24 4:35pm

MIRvmn1

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ghostof82 said:

They DID come out with that bizarre "next twelve months" statement a little while back... As if we won't be getting the Purple Rain SDE until NEXT summer....

Yes they're probably dragging out the next release as much as possible.
[Edited 7/24/24 16:35pm]
U are now an official member of the New Power Generation
Welcome 2 The Dawn
Free the prince SDE now!
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Reply #16 posted 07/24/24 5:38pm

HardtoGet

long over due .. hope we see something real soon

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Reply #17 posted 07/25/24 12:56am

JorisE73

Got some mail from Paisley Park yesterday saying they are just at the beginning of the year long Purple Rain celebration so I expect a lot more to come but am also expecting a endles chain of disapointments

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Reply #18 posted 07/25/24 6:13am

Ymaginatif

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Do you remember: decades ago the very same retorics of frustration, dissatisfaction and impatience abounded among Prince fans.

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Reply #19 posted 07/25/24 8:29am

databank

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ExTAFKASoladeo1 said:

...I am just going to give up....

And by "GOOD" I mean MUSIC THAT'S NEW...

It's just rediculous...

I am going to take my Prince Fan Energy and transfer it to, I don't know, The Beatles or The Smiths or The Cure or The 1975!!!!

I don't think this is going to be enough. For the Estate to make a move, I suggest you threaten commiting suicide in front of Paisley Park (or even better, a mass suicide if you find other participants, but personally I'll pass) lol

A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...scography/
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Reply #20 posted 07/25/24 9:58am

MIRvmn1

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JorisE73 said:

Got some mail from Paisley Park yesterday saying they are just at the beginning of the year long Purple Rain celebration so I expect a lot more to come but am also expecting a endles chain of disapointments


The celebration is pointless without any proper release, especially if it will go on for such a long time.
U are now an official member of the New Power Generation
Welcome 2 The Dawn
Free the prince SDE now!
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Reply #21 posted 07/25/24 10:09am

bozojones

I still have no idea why they're putting so much emphasis on celebrating the 40th anniversary of Purple Rain but are opting out of any major releases in the window of the album/film's actual 40th anniversary. If they do end up releasing a Purple Rain SDE next year, it's going to make zero sense to market it as a "40th anniversary edition" in 2025, a whole year after the actual anniversary.

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Reply #22 posted 07/25/24 10:50am

LILpoundCAKE

meanwhile, in another universe, all these ass hats sat down together year 1, never got anyone
else involved - let alone L.M. - and just set up a nice online store front where new shit would be
uploaded all of the time. a sort of stream of consciousness/go as we find it approach.

just for us super fans.

regular nicely curated box sets could still be released for us as well. us and perhaps a bit more
dumbed down for 'the general public'.


stuff like "Piano and a Micrphone 83" should have been released that way, and thus not made
it a 'major' release, for wich sde sets would have to be pushed back to a later date.

we could have had hundreds of different takes, demo versions, later rerecordings, mixes and
live renditions of songs. including so so soooo much stuff that doesn't really belong an any of
the future SDE releases.

it's not like these releases in such a store would generate that much press or hooplah. so they
would not detract from the major, promoted releases, the '1 release a year so as not to put too
much strain on the consumer who can only wrap they head around 12 new songs a year' stuff.

or the other way around, the SDE would not be the only thing to look forward to for hardcore
fans. it being, for example 'the year of purple rain' would not mean that now we'd have to wait
yet another year before there was even a slight chance we might get to hear "shameless" or
an alternate mix of "Train" etc.

plus full concerts. the full concerts! the rehearsals. the aftershows.

I think that even with my tight budget I'd have happily spent 500 bucks a year on such a site.

I guess it's not complete fantasy to think they could make somewhere between 5 and 10 mill
a year from such a scheme. besides the curated box sets and regular releases of the actual
real meat and bones stuff.

might not be a huge amount of money but it would go someway toward paying the power bills.


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Reply #23 posted 07/25/24 12:22pm

rudeboy4711

If they don’t do a 50th anniversary celebration/SDE in honor of For You by 2028 we can loose all hope definitively! lol
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Reply #24 posted 07/26/24 7:59am

2freaky

About money

I'll tell U what the Eye in the Pimp stand 4!
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Reply #25 posted 08/02/24 2:19am

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I know “I’m dreaming when I write this” but it would B great if an announcement would B done 2morrow for a First Avenue 83’ release….

This silence despite this PR 40th anniversary is unbelievable….

"Money won't buy U happiness but it'll pay 4 the search."
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Reply #26 posted 08/02/24 12:05pm

purplethunder3
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If it doesn't happen the org will implode. razz

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

https://youtu.be/CVwv9LZMah0
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Reply #27 posted 08/02/24 6:19pm

Cow

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He has to have a country album in the vault somewhere
Eat Mor Horses
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Reply #28 posted 08/03/24 5:35pm

RODSERLING

Give up or not, the truth is nobody cares.
Listen to the Beatles already or the Cure or both, because nothing will be announced in the next four months.
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