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Vannormal

Lenny Kravitz on recording w Prince (Zane Low interview)


Interesting interview... with a few new insights

- Never knew Lenny sat for two hours w Prince in his Purple Prawler he just bought, and got a two hour bible study from Prince...

- Lenny sitting w Michael Jackson and Prince in the studio to 'fuck around a bit with Michael'...

- Or recording alone with Prince, having the chance to sing background vocals on a Prince track... alone!

- Recording momentums... amazing stories.


Listen from 38:54 on in this 54:08 interview you can find on your favourite video channel:

https://www.youtube.com/w...uthCSk6TOc

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #1 posted 06/05/24 6:55am

Marco81

I think he said he sings backing vocals on multiple tracks. We know Billy Jack Bitch and Dolphin are 2 of them...

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Reply #2 posted 06/05/24 6:57am

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As a credits nerd, it drives me crazy that we'll probably never know what tracks he sings on, or which of his tracks Prince sings or plays on. Speculation is all we'll ever have...

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Reply #3 posted 06/05/24 7:16am

Vannormal

djThunderfunk said:

As a credits nerd, it drives me crazy that we'll probably never know what tracks he sings on, or which of his tracks Prince sings or plays on. Speculation is all we'll ever have...

It'll come out in time when engineers or other sessions musicians start to talk for sure.

Or the cook, the cleaning lady, hairdresser...

But I didn't know Lenny sang on Billy Jack Bitch !

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Reply #4 posted 06/05/24 7:43am

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djThunderfunk said:

As a credits nerd, it drives me crazy that we'll probably never know what tracks he sings on, or which of his tracks Prince sings or plays on. Speculation is all we'll ever have...

I always thought it was Prince's voice saying "thank you jesus" at the start of Don't go Put a Bullet in Your Head (from the album Circus...)

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Reply #5 posted 06/05/24 9:02am

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Was a great interview and I've always thought the two played on each other's albums at times. I'd be shocked if Prince didn't do keyboard work on some of Lenny's tracks.

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Reply #6 posted 06/05/24 11:59am

LILpoundCAKE

if i had to take a guess, i'd say that prince is on some of the songs on "5"

esp "supersoulfighter" always sounded like prince is in there somewhere.


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Reply #7 posted 06/05/24 2:25pm

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LILpoundCAKE said:

if i had to take a guess, i'd say that prince is on some of the songs on "5"

esp "supersoulfighter" always sounded like prince is in there somewhere.




Exactly this, was the exact album and song I was thinking about, there are others, but that one, without doubt.

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Reply #8 posted 06/05/24 4:19pm

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claudemorton said:

LILpoundCAKE said:

if i had to take a guess, i'd say that prince is on some of the songs on "5"

esp "supersoulfighter" always sounded like prince is in there somewhere.




Exactly this, was the exact album and song I was thinking about, there are others, but that one, without doubt.


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Reply #9 posted 06/05/24 4:35pm

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In a french tv interview in 2004, Lenny said he was on one song from Musicology ( Million Days?).
The interviewer asked him if in return Prince played on his album and said "No".

I thought it was Prince on the 1995 Stevie Wonder Conversation Peace, but he s not credited on the booklet.
Later, I read that Prince played on some tracks, but for some reasons his parts were eventually erased and played by somebody else imitating Prince.

There was also a rumour that Lenny and Prince came to see MJ recording ( that part is true).
The song recorded was 2Bad, and at least Prince would have done background vocals on that slapping bass razz
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Reply #10 posted 06/06/24 2:21am

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RODSERLING said:

In a french tv interview in 2004, Lenny said he was on one song from Musicology ( Million Days?). The interviewer asked him if in return Prince played on his album and said "No". I thought it was Prince on the 1995 Stevie Wonder Conversation Peace, but he s not credited on the booklet. Later, I read that Prince played on some tracks, but for some reasons his parts were eventually erased and played by somebody else imitating Prince. There was also a rumour that Lenny and Prince came to see MJ recording ( that part is true). The song recorded was 2Bad, and at least Prince would have done background vocals on that slapping bass razz


in 2005 stevie released "Cold Chill - Prince version" officially. it's pretty sweet cool

it's on most streaming services.

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Reply #11 posted 06/06/24 3:45pm

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Oh, cool, he released his version of Tony LeMans' Bundle Of Joy heart heart heart

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7SiiMZis4Y&ab_channel=LennyKravitz-Topic

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Reply #12 posted 06/06/24 4:05pm

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djThunderfunk said:

As a credits nerd, it drives me crazy that we'll probably never know what tracks he sings on, or which of his tracks Prince sings or plays on. Speculation is all we'll ever have...

We know he's on Dolphin and Billy Jack Bitch. IDK who the source of this information was, but since we got to know that, there may not be other tracks.

Unless I missed it, Lenny doesn't say anything about Prince singing or playing on any of his tracks, so I'll assume he didn't until some information surfaces.

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Reply #13 posted 06/06/24 4:08pm

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For those who get sad about Prince not being more popular or his legacy, noticed how the video is titled "Lenny Kravitz: Blue Electric Light, Songwriting & Prince", NOT "Lenny Kravitz: Blue Electric Light, Songwriting & Michael Jackson" or "Lenny Kravitz: Blue Electric Light, Songwriting & Mick Jagger"?

I think it says a lot about how sad or worried we should be lol

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Reply #14 posted 06/07/24 1:16am

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databank said:

For those who get sad about Prince not being more popular or his legacy, noticed how the video is titled "Lenny Kravitz: Blue Electric Light, Songwriting & Prince", NOT "Lenny Kravitz: Blue Electric Light, Songwriting & Michael Jackson" or "Lenny Kravitz: Blue Electric Light, Songwriting & Mick Jagger"?

I think it says a lot about how sad or worried we should be lol

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Exactly, was my thought too.

But Zane is a huge Prince fan.

On the Apple top 100, he discussed the Purple Rain Album, plus other Prince material, and it's obvious he is a big big fan. Clearly more a Prince fan than a MJackson or MJagger fan, imho of coure.

But it's nice to hear Lenny was quite close to Pricne Musically.

Lenny also didn't say anything negative about Prince preaching for two hours in a Purple Prawler car... Imagine just that specific situation!... Good grief, a two hour Jehova horseshit-talk, in the smal space of a sportscar. I would be pissed and bored as hell. Lenny was humble, smart in the way he told it. I like that.

Same like he told the story about him in the middle between those two competitive stars in the studio.

Quite amazing stories to me.

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Reply #15 posted 06/07/24 1:32am

Vannormal

LILpoundCAKE said:

RODSERLING said:

in 2005 stevie released "Cold Chill - Prince version" officially. it's pretty sweet cool
it's on most streaming services.

Thank you for this!

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Just heard this track for the first time.

And for sure It's Prince on guitar! biggrin

Listen to that guitar solo from 03:48 on... undoubtly Prince!

And the last words at the end of the song also sound like Prince the prakster.

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Reply #16 posted 06/07/24 1:54am

MsNia

RODSERLING said:

I thought it was Prince on the 1995 Stevie Wonder Conversation Peace, but he s not credited on the booklet. Later, I read that Prince played on some tracks, but for some reasons his parts were eventually erased and played by somebody else imitating Prince. There was also a rumour that Lenny and Prince came to see MJ recording ( that part is true). The song recorded was 2Bad, and at least Prince would have done background vocals on that slapping bass razz

Prince played guitar on What the Fuss, which was on Conversation Peace. I agree, I always thought I heard him on some of the other songs too. Same with the George Clinton album (Hey Man Smell My Finger) I always thought I heard him on more than just The Big Pump.

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Reply #17 posted 06/07/24 1:58am

MsNia

Vannormal said:

LILpoundCAKE said:

in 2005 stevie released "Cold Chill - Prince version" officially. it's pretty sweet cool
it's on most streaming services.

Thank you for this!

-

Just heard this track for the first time.

And for sure It's Prince on guitar! biggrin

Listen to that guitar solo from 03:48 on... undoubtly Prince!

And the last words at the end of the song also sound like Prince the prakster.

OMG I love this. Totally agree, Prince is all over this

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Reply #18 posted 06/07/24 2:02am

MsNia

Not to take anything away from Lenny who I adore, but it is funny how many people say stuff like "oh yeah, Prince and I were good friends" but when you poke a bit deeper it was more that Prince gave them 2 hour bible lectures and they did some studio work together. I do think maybe that's as close as anyone ever got to Prince once he became a big star, but Neal Karlen's book does a great job summarizing that friendship, and how you're always a bit at arm's length. Friends don't proselytise at you for hours smile

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Reply #19 posted 06/07/24 3:02am

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i think they def were musicianly friends. there was an interview with lenny where he talked about an apartment he had in the 90s and prince would come to see him there. whether they were close, obv i cant say, but they definitely seemed to hang out.

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Reply #20 posted 06/07/24 5:19am

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MsNia said:

RODSERLING said:

I thought it was Prince on the 1995 Stevie Wonder Conversation Peace, but he s not credited on the booklet. Later, I read that Prince played on some tracks, but for some reasons his parts were eventually erased and played by somebody else imitating Prince. There was also a rumour that Lenny and Prince came to see MJ recording ( that part is true). The song recorded was 2Bad, and at least Prince would have done background vocals on that slapping bass razz

Prince played guitar on What the Fuss, which was on Conversation Peace. I agree, I always thought I heard him on some of the other songs too. Same with the George Clinton album (Hey Man Smell My Finger) I always thought I heard him on more than just The Big Pump.


You do hear Prince on more of Hey Man, a Paisley Park engineer posted here years ago and spilled the beans, Prince is all over that album.

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Reply #21 posted 06/07/24 5:19pm

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MsNia said:



RODSERLING said:


I thought it was Prince on the 1995 Stevie Wonder Conversation Peace, but he s not credited on the booklet. Later, I read that Prince played on some tracks, but for some reasons his parts were eventually erased and played by somebody else imitating Prince. There was also a rumour that Lenny and Prince came to see MJ recording ( that part is true). The song recorded was 2Bad, and at least Prince would have done background vocals on that slapping bass razz


Prince played guitar on What the Fuss, which was on Conversation Peace. I agree, I always thought I heard him on some of the other songs too. Same with the George Clinton album (Hey Man Smell My Finger) I always thought I heard him on more than just The Big Pump.



So what the fuss is on a time to love...
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Reply #22 posted 06/07/24 6:43pm

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djThunderfunk said:



MsNia said:




RODSERLING said:


I thought it was Prince on the 1995 Stevie Wonder Conversation Peace, but he s not credited on the booklet. Later, I read that Prince played on some tracks, but for some reasons his parts were eventually erased and played by somebody else imitating Prince. There was also a rumour that Lenny and Prince came to see MJ recording ( that part is true). The song recorded was 2Bad, and at least Prince would have done background vocals on that slapping bass razz


Prince played guitar on What the Fuss, which was on Conversation Peace. I agree, I always thought I heard him on some of the other songs too. Same with the George Clinton album (Hey Man Smell My Finger) I always thought I heard him on more than just The Big Pump.




You do hear Prince on more of Hey Man, a Paisley Park engineer posted here years ago and spilled the beans, Prince is all over that album.


So far we only have evidence for him being on three songs. ChronicFreeze (iirc it was him who did this great Q&A on the Org back in 2009 or 2010) only mentioned Satisfied. Then Princevault unearthed a Billboard quote from Clinton saying "(Prince is) all over the record – Way Up, Get Satisfied, Big Pump". Does this mean "all over the record" is just those three songs or more? Hard to tell, but we need more evidence.
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Reply #23 posted 06/07/24 6:49pm

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databank said:

djThunderfunk said:


You do hear Prince on more of Hey Man, a Paisley Park engineer posted here years ago and spilled the beans, Prince is all over that album.

So far we only have evidence for him being on three songs. ChronicFreeze (iirc it was him who did this great Q&A on the Org back in 2009 or 2010) only mentioned Satisfied. Then Princevault unearthed a Billboard quote from Clinton saying "(Prince is) all over the record – Way Up, Get Satisfied, Big Pump". Does this mean "all over the record" is just those three songs or more? Hard to tell, but we need more evidence.


It was ChronicFreeze. IIRC, he confirmed Get Satisfied, and although didn't get specific, suggested it was much more. I thought he also used the words "all over" the album. I was thinking he said it was a large part of the album and some of the unreleased material.

I think I took screenshots of the thread, question is, do I still have them a decade and a half later?

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Vannormal said:



databank said:


For those who get sad about Prince not being more popular or his legacy, noticed how the video is titled "Lenny Kravitz: Blue Electric Light, Songwriting & Prince", NOT "Lenny Kravitz: Blue Electric Light, Songwriting & Michael Jackson" or "Lenny Kravitz: Blue Electric Light, Songwriting & Mick Jagger"?


I think it says a lot about how sad or worried we should be lol


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Exactly, was my thought too.


But Zane is a huge Prince fan.


On the Apple top 100, he discussed the Purple Rain Album, plus other Prince material, and it's obvious he is a big big fan. Clearly more a Prince fan than a MJackson or MJagger fan, imho of coure.



Fair enough, but I would assume Zane also needs to make views and titles his videos accordingly for clickbait. And I'm also under the impression that tastemakers are more and more into Prince these days. Biased tastemakers are still tastemakers, and I wouldn't be surprised if Prince outshined his contemporaries on the long run.
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djThunderfunk said:



databank said:


djThunderfunk said:



You do hear Prince on more of Hey Man, a Paisley Park engineer posted here years ago and spilled the beans, Prince is all over that album.



So far we only have evidence for him being on three songs. ChronicFreeze (iirc it was him who did this great Q&A on the Org back in 2009 or 2010) only mentioned Satisfied. Then Princevault unearthed a Billboard quote from Clinton saying "(Prince is) all over the record – Way Up, Get Satisfied, Big Pump". Does this mean "all over the record" is just those three songs or more? Hard to tell, but we need more evidence.


It was ChronicFreeze. IIRC, he confirmed Get Satisfied, and although didn't get specific, suggested it was much more. I thought he also used the words "all over" the album. I was thinking he said it was a large part of the album and some of the unreleased material.

I think I took screenshots of the thread, question is, do I still have them a decade and a half later?



[Edited 6/7/24 18:50pm]


I remember he was very strict on anyone not ever reposting his Q&A, though I guess quoting him for academic purposes is OK since he did it on a public board.
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While we're on the subject, Macy Gray once said Prince recorded some "piano" on a song from The ID and demanded to be uncredited. It may be Hey Young World, since she also said Questlove was involved,but either way, it's unclear whether Prince's part was kept, her statement is somewhat ambiguous.
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databank said:

djThunderfunk said:


It was ChronicFreeze. IIRC, he confirmed Get Satisfied, and although didn't get specific, suggested it was much more. I thought he also used the words "all over" the album. I was thinking he said it was a large part of the album and some of the unreleased material.

I think I took screenshots of the thread, question is, do I still have them a decade and a half later?

[Edited 6/7/24 18:50pm]

I remember he was very strict on anyone not ever reposting his Q&A, though I guess quoting him for academic purposes is OK since he did it on a public board.


Yeah, I would not post the screenshots if I still have them. Would like to re-read them to refresh my memory though. Especially if we're discussing it. wink

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peedub said:

MsNia said:

Prince played guitar on What the Fuss, which was on Conversation Peace. I agree, I always thought I heard him on some of the other songs too. Same with the George Clinton album (Hey Man Smell My Finger) I always thought I heard him on more than just The Big Pump.

So what the fuss is on a time to love...

oh jeez you're right, i always mix up those records

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Reply #29 posted 06/08/24 5:46am

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djThunderfunk said:

MsNia said:

Prince played guitar on What the Fuss, which was on Conversation Peace. I agree, I always thought I heard him on some of the other songs too. Same with the George Clinton album (Hey Man Smell My Finger) I always thought I heard him on more than just The Big Pump.


You do hear Prince on more of Hey Man, a Paisley Park engineer posted here years ago and spilled the beans, Prince is all over that album.

Oh good to know! I love that record smile

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