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Thread started 05/10/24 8:39am

jungleshot1

Major Mktg push needed

Well I guess a summer release for an SDE PR 40th is slowly dwindling away. Not an expert on these things but having a release date right around the time of the original 84 release date would be obvious. Even better is 2 have the release date right during this years celebration. Attendees could buy the sets AT PAISLEY. This way all the income generated will go directly to the estate.No middelman sharing. WBR and the estate could have a windfall. I look at PURPLE RAIN as a "summer album". Same thing with the film. Still time for that format to be re released in theaters along with the film being remastered along with a movie premiere. Gets the word out about the film and album. See the movie, buy the album.Vice versa. THE BEATLES ALWAYS have expansive sets with lavish multi format ways to experience.

Oh well. Count down to the Celebration.

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Reply #1 posted 05/10/24 8:41am

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It is absolutely insane how much basic stuff seems to elude them time and time again
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Reply #2 posted 05/10/24 8:42am

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I have a feeling they're going to announce it at the Celebration, with an October/November release date. Not saying they SHOULD do this, just that they probably will...the folks running the Estate seem brain dead. Baffling decision after baffling decision.

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Reply #3 posted 05/10/24 11:05am

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it's only five more letters, dude.

you're cutting crnrs, just like them.

unless you meant it to be cheeky!

then, good on ya biggrin

"Whatever skin we're in
we all need 2 b friends"
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Reply #4 posted 05/10/24 11:13am

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jedimaster777 said:

I have a feeling they're going to announce it at the Celebration, with an October/November release date. Not saying they SHOULD do this, just that they probably will...the folks running the Estate seem brain dead. Baffling decision after baffling decision.



I'm also expecting an announcment at the Celebration, but I think the release will be earlier than Oct/Nov...

But even if it is later in the year, so what? Media companies generally do not schedule to exact anniversary dates. Why should they? Re-releasing a product on its anniversary rarely has any effect on sales. Hardcore fans will buy the product whenever it's released, be it the exact anniversary date or five months later. And casual fans don't care about anniversaries.



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Reply #5 posted 05/10/24 12:42pm

TrivialPursuit

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jungleshot1 said:

Well I guess a summer release for an SDE PR 40th is slowly dwindling away. Not an expert on these things


No you're not, so settle down. It's fucking May, not November.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #6 posted 05/10/24 2:26pm

jungleshot1

TrivialPursuit said:



jungleshot1 said:


Well I guess a summer release for an SDE PR 40th is slowly dwindling away. Not an expert on these things




No you're not, so settle down. It's fucking May, not November.



Absolutely correct. Was just a thought. The super fan in me is over anxious and things that seems obvious and logical to me is me trying to manifest it to be.
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Reply #7 posted 05/10/24 2:26pm

jungleshot1

nayroo2002 said:

it's only five more letters, dude.


you're cutting crnrs, just like them.


unless you meant it to be cheeky!


then, good on ya biggrin



Ha ! Yes you are so right! Lol
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Reply #8 posted 05/10/24 11:44pm

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I’m keen to get something new too BUT…

from a marketing point of view it would make more sense to release a large SDE nearer the end of the year.

An expensive vinyl or cd set would not be top of people’s shopping lists when they are booking vacations and are outside in the sunshine.

People tend to splurge the cash closer to Christmas on themselves and loved ones. So I hope you’re right. Announce at Celebration, Podcast by Estate starts August/September. Release October/November.

I’m hoping for a curveball and Parade SDE arrives instead!
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Reply #9 posted 05/11/24 7:37am

TrivialPursuit

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jungleshot1 said:

TrivialPursuit said:


No you're not, so settle down. It's fucking May, not November.

Absolutely correct. Was just a thought. The super fan in me is over anxious and things that seems obvious and logical to me is me trying to manifest it to be.


Yeah, I get that. I'm just trying to emphasize that all this hypotheticals and "what if" is just a waste of good energy. I mean, you could be right. I can't see the estate letting the 40th of Purple Rain just kinda float by. But they are usually pretty tight lipped about things until they drop.

It is only May. Remember, "When Doves Cry" came out in May, the soundtrack in June, the movie in July of 1984. I suspect any big announcement on an SDE would probably come either every soon, or around the summer to shoot for a late summer release.

That gives fans the rest of 2024 and most of 2025 to ultimately bitch about it, too. (you know how they are) lol lol lol

Like MJ said, "just let it sizzle..." We'll get there.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #10 posted 05/11/24 11:59am

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TrivialPursuit said:

It is only May. Remember, "When Doves Cry" came out in May, the soundtrack in June, the movie in July of 1984. I suspect any big announcement on an SDE would probably come either every soon, or around the summer to shoot for a late summer release.

Could you imagine if they released this as it was in 1984?

That would actually be an epic marketing stratagy biggrin

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we all need 2 b friends"
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Reply #11 posted 05/11/24 12:25pm

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"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

https://youtu.be/CVwv9LZMah0
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Reply #12 posted 05/11/24 3:02pm

TrivialPursuit

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nayroo2002 said:

TrivialPursuit said:

It is only May. Remember, "When Doves Cry" came out in May, the soundtrack in June, the movie in July of 1984. I suspect any big announcement on an SDE would probably come either every soon, or around the summer to shoot for a late summer release.

Could you imagine if they released this as it was in 1984?

That would actually be an epic marketing stratagy biggrin


I've actually thought about that, and it would be perfection. I mean, they have 5 days, which is next Thursday, to put a single out. How fucking awesome could it be to have the bass version of WDC? or a longer "17 Days" that we've heard. Or even "17 Days" with Brenda singing. Anything could be a lead-in to a great summer campaign.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #13 posted 05/11/24 3:52pm

LILpoundCAKE

TrivialPursuit said:

nayroo2002 said:

Could you imagine if they released this as it was in 1984?

That would actually be an epic marketing stratagy biggrin


I've actually thought about that, and it would be perfection. I mean, they have 5 days, which is next Thursday, to put a single out. How fucking awesome could it be to have the bass version of WDC? or a longer "17 Days" that we've heard. Or even "17 Days" with Brenda singing. Anything could be a lead-in to a great summer campaign.


that would be a nice idea! release all the singles as they were back in 84 and stick alternate
versions on there of the a and b side.

it might generate some buzz and start hype for the sde set. and it would just be a cool little
thing to do smile


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Reply #14 posted 05/13/24 6:09am

Vannormal

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Your 'gif' says enough.
Nobody here knows shit, not even purple shit.
And my guess is this, from the moment of the first announcement,
everyone here (including myself) will be completely overcome with (momentary) satisfaction and relief! IF anything is announced at all tbh.

And all the complaining and negativity will again be forgotten and forgiven (for a (short) time).
After that, all back to the usual waiting, aging, souring and hoping for a snippet of unofficial leak.
That is the fixed pattern we have all been in for a long time.
Do't forget, a non-SDE (BIG) year is unfortunately also still optional.

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #15 posted 05/13/24 7:35am

Krid

I am going to say it: biggrin

I really don't want yet another Purple Rain milking SDE. What's the point? What great uncovered songs remain in the vault from that period?

There, I said it lol

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Reply #16 posted 05/13/24 7:46am

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Krid said:

I am going to say it: biggrin

I really don't want yet another Purple Rain milking SDE. What's the point? What great uncovered songs remain in the vault from that period?

There, I said it lol

Totally with you!! lol I don't really care about this one. The 1st ave show, if included, would be the only reason to give a shit.

Also, Purple Rain was a summer event back in 84. This SDE should be released in the summer imo.

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Reply #17 posted 05/13/24 8:14am

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Krid said:

I am going to say it: biggrin

I really don't want yet another Purple Rain milking SDE. What's the point? What great uncovered songs remain in the vault from that period?

There, I said it lol

Completely agree. I assume there will be a few things on there that are new to me and that I'll enjoy, but for God's sake, it's the most played out album in his oeuvre by far, and I'm not interested in revisiting it again again again.

I want the prince album SDE, desperately.

No confusion, no tears. No enemies, no fear. No sorrow, no pain. No ball, no chain.

Sex is not love. Love is not sex. Putting words in other people's mouths will only get you elected.

Need more sleep than coke or methamphetamine.
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Reply #18 posted 05/13/24 8:35am

Vannormal

All three of you, OUT!

biggrin

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Reply #19 posted 05/13/24 11:43am

psyche2

Poplife88 said:

Krid said:

I am going to say it: biggrin

I really don't want yet another Purple Rain milking SDE. What's the point? What great uncovered songs remain in the vault from that period?

There, I said it lol

Totally with you!! lol I don't really care about this one. The 1st ave show, if included, would be the only reason to give a shit.

Also, Purple Rain was a summer event back in 84. This SDE should be released in the summer imo.

lol Count four out.

Let's be honest - the amount of actually new (or previously unkown) stuff will not be much more than an EP. The rest will be quality upgrades or different mixes of stuff we all already know and own in different guises.

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Reply #20 posted 05/13/24 11:47am

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lurker316 said:

jedimaster777 said:

I have a feeling they're going to announce it at the Celebration, with an October/November release date. Not saying they SHOULD do this, just that they probably will...the folks running the Estate seem brain dead. Baffling decision after baffling decision.



I'm also expecting an announcment at the Celebration, but I think the release will be earlier than Oct/Nov...

But even if it is later in the year, so what? Media companies generally do not schedule to exact anniversary dates. Why should they? Re-releasing a product on its anniversary rarely has any effect on sales. Hardcore fans will buy the product whenever it's released, be it the exact anniversary date or five months later. And casual fans don't care about anniversaries.



Agreed. Only us obsessive fans care about such things. Record companies and the estate? They only care about capitalizing on an anniversary for the monetary side of it. They couldn't care less about the precise date.

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Reply #21 posted 05/13/24 3:42pm

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When the estate announced Celebration 2024, they said, ”We will also be launching the Year of Purple Rain starting in June.” If they’re giving themselves a whole year, we might not see the Purple Rain SDE till June 2025. eek

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December1984 said:

When the estate announced Celebration 2024, they said, ”We will also be launching the Year of Purple Rain starting in June.” If they’re giving themselves a whole year, we might not see the Purple Rain SDE till June 2025. eek


Nah. They'll make the announcement in June as they said. The campaign will run for a full year. Remember, they don't really release 2 SDEs a year. SOTT was well over a year before we saw W2A, although there were smaller things between.

I would suspect there could be a 7" singles box set, plus the album box set, and maybe a special press of a 7" on purple vinyl of something like "When Doves Cry" (which was released on purple vinyl back when), or even an outtake (the way they did with "I Feel For You" and "Do Me, Baby").

They know the weight of this. Prince's biggest moment as an artist - the thing that made him a household name - and all the ephemera around it, will not go out like a fart on its 40th anniversary. I'm anxious to see what comes of it.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #23 posted 05/13/24 7:34pm

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They know the weight of this. Prince's biggest moment as an artist - the thing that made him a household name - and all the ephemera around it, will not go out like a fart on its 40th anniversary. I'm anxious to see what comes of it.

I could believe this if we were still following the trajectory of the previous estate, but there's no way Londell & Spicer won't fuck this up or give us something underwhelming.

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Reply #24 posted 05/13/24 8:10pm

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I could believe this if we were still following the trajectory of the previous estate, but there's no way Londell & Spicer won't fuck this up or give us something underwhelming.


Everything u believe is true.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #25 posted 05/14/24 6:36am

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I don't see any point or need for them to try to release it in the same month - sometime in the year of the anniversary is fine.

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Reply #26 posted 05/14/24 9:25am

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I don't see any point or need for them to try to release it in the same month - sometime in the year of the anniversary is fine.


Agreed. The line up of the original releases is just a lot of fun hopefulness. But in general, something is coming, and I'm stoked to find out.

Also, do we get a trade-in credit for that shit set a few years ago? lol

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #27 posted 05/14/24 5:54pm

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So hmmm, tonight I was going to watch Purple Rain, and was too lazy to dig out the BluRay, so I thought, it's on MAX. I'll watch it there.

Well, suddenly it's not. It's on some streaming with ads, or you can buy it for $12 on Prime.

So I went to my in-house cloud drive and pulled it up there.

Not sure how telling that is about it not being up for regular streaming as it was before, but...

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #28 posted 05/20/24 6:29am

leecaldon

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leecaldon said:

I don't see any point or need for them to try to release it in the same month - sometime in the year of the anniversary is fine.


Agreed. The line up of the original releases is just a lot of fun hopefulness. But in general, something is coming, and I'm stoked to find out.

Also, do we get a trade-in credit for that shit set a few years ago? lol

Haha. At the time I was happy to have something, happy that some of those tracks were officially out there.

But the more recent super deluxes show what can and I'm sure will be done this time around (people may have minor grips about them, but a lot of music and video have been released).

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