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Thread started 04/19/24 12:54am

Raevene

'It' drum sample in Taylor Swift's 'The Tortured Poets Department'

I was surprised to hear the title track of Taylor Swift's new album using the 'It' drum sample. It's a decent track, not the best on the album but it's nice to hear some Prince rep.

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Reply #1 posted 04/19/24 1:02am

nayroo2002

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It's similar, but not a "sample", per se.

Kinda like the drums in "Antihero" are similar to "Kiss".

"Whatever skin we're in
we all need 2 b friends"
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Reply #2 posted 04/19/24 1:18am

Vannormal

I will never understand the fuzz about Taylor Swift.

Her music is easy (made). Moods and buttered accessible drama for young girls (about to get pubs).

When I hear her in an interview, I think wtf gurl...

Born rich, started off with everything she wanted,. Don't get me wrong, hse has talent, I agree on that. Sorry Swifties. You can all bash me. wink

Compare her with Lana Del rey or Billie Eilish, and hear (and see) what i mean.

Maybe she needs to do a Britney Spears one day, and go bananas, to get things less clean.

And honestly? That is no Prince sample. Not even close.

I would rather say it is a stolen loop-idea from a Cigarettes After Sex song.

(...I know i'm not in a good mood today...) wink

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #3 posted 04/19/24 2:59pm

TrivialPursuit

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People act like someone else can't manipulate a sound in the studio. It's unlikely, and probably untrue, that Taylor was dipping into SOTT for... a drum sample????
Horse hockey.

People still believe that Justin Timberlake sampled ONE sound from "Raspberry Beret" instead of - wait for it - twisting a knob in a studio to make his own sound.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #4 posted 04/19/24 11:12pm

funkbabyandthe
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swift and beyonce, i dont much like either

She has talked about prince before though, in rolling stone:

Swift: Yeah, I think, when a pseudonym comes in is when you still have a love for making the work and you don’t want the work to become overshadowed by this thing that’s been built around you, based on what people know about you. And that’s when it’s really fun to create fake names and write under them.

McCartney: Do you ever do that?

Swift: Oh, yeah.

McCartney: Oh, yeah? Oh, well, we didn’t know that! Is that a widely known fact?

Swift: I think it is now, but it wasn’t. I wrote under the name Nils Sjöberg because those are two of the most popular names of Swedish males. I wrote this song called “This Is What You Came For” that Rihanna ended up singing. And nobody knew for a while. I remembered always hearing that when Prince wrote “Manic Monday,” they didn’t reveal it for a couple of months.
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Reply #5 posted 04/20/24 9:58am

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TrivialPursuit said:

People act like someone else can't manipulate a sound in the studio. It's unlikely, and probably untrue, that Taylor was dipping into SOTT for... a drum sample????
Horse hockey.

People still believe that Justin Timberlake sampled ONE sound from "Raspberry Beret" instead of - wait for it - twisting a knob in a studio to make his own sound.

We would never accuse JT of that. His producers on the other hand... razz

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Reply #6 posted 04/20/24 1:25pm

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whodknee said:

TrivialPursuit said:

People act like someone else can't manipulate a sound in the studio. It's unlikely, and probably untrue, that Taylor was dipping into SOTT for... a drum sample????
Horse hockey.

People still believe that Justin Timberlake sampled ONE sound from "Raspberry Beret" instead of - wait for it - twisting a knob in a studio to make his own sound.

We would never accuse JT of that. His producers on the other hand... razz


That aside, my point stands.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #7 posted 04/20/24 1:26pm

TrivialPursuit

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By the way, that drum pattern is only slightly similar to "It." It sure to fuck doesn't sound like "It."

At. All.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #8 posted 04/20/24 8:39pm

bozojones

It's just Jack Antonoff using a LinnDrum-esque plugin to emulate the sound of the 80s. There's no way someone with music as bland as Taylor is pulling from Prince for musical inspiration lol
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Reply #9 posted 04/21/24 12:15am

MsNia

It's more of a classic 80s gated snare sound. Not a sample, easily recreated.

Love Taylor though, the new album is great!

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Reply #10 posted 04/22/24 8:59am

Krid

Funny to read this - I also thought "hey, this sounds remotely like a Prince drum beat" while listening to the album... not sure which song I was listening to when this thought hit me --- and must admit I kinda drifted off, the songs sound so similar, I actually fell asleep during my listening session lol

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Reply #11 posted 04/23/24 3:28am

makenzie

Spam deleted - l'ange bleu- moderator

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Reply #12 posted 04/23/24 6:10am

funkbabyandthe
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31 tracks on one album. Prince would love that.
Prob would be pissed he wasnt doing that in the 80s.
But she also isnt the best at editing herself, or editing albums that is.
She just cant stop recording and releasing.
Her whole mission to rerecord her old albums, prince would love that too, seeing as he planned the same in the 90s.
I bet he would try to work with her, but at this point, she might be too big.
Her songs are too many and too samey though.
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Reply #13 posted 04/23/24 6:54am

pld71

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And track 3 drums sound like Hot Thing.

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Reply #14 posted 04/23/24 7:24am

TrivialPursuit

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pld71 said:

And track 3 drums sound like Hot Thing.


LOL Okay.

Y'all are confusing a drum pattern with the effects on a drum loop.

You can't copyright a drum pattern, and every other song has the same drum pattern. The beat of "Housequake" forward and in reverse fashion was on every other hip-hop song back then.

Listen to "Sadness Part I" from Enigma and things like "Been Around The World" by Lisa Stansfield, or "Keep on Movin'" by Soul II Soul - same fucking drums in every single song, and there's probably another 20 identical songs.

These drum loops aren't Prince-inspired. But are they using similar rhythms? Sure. So are 100 other songs. They're not that unique on their own. Hell, you take away the extra clickity-clack in "When Doves Cry" and the actual kick and snare are pretty fucking textbook and boring.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #15 posted 04/23/24 7:46am

nayroo2002

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Taylor Swift is Popstar Barbie TM

"Whatever skin we're in
we all need 2 b friends"
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Reply #16 posted 04/24/24 1:39am

Vannormal

What's with her hair anyway?

She looks so.... damn ordinary all the time...

Maybe she should pay more attention to Prince's looks... wink))) AND his music.

HUH! (... is would James Brown say.)

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #17 posted 04/24/24 7:16am

TrivialPursuit

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Vannormal said:

What's with her hair anyway?

She looks so.... damn ordinary all the time...


Are you people really delving into a woman's looks?

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #18 posted 04/24/24 7:28am

Vannormal

TrivialPursuit said:

Vannormal said:

What's with her hair anyway?

She looks so.... damn ordinary all the time...


Are you people really delving into a woman's looks?

yes 'we people' do (it all the time)

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #19 posted 04/24/24 7:29am

lustmealways

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don't all girls look the same, they don't, oh what a shame...

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Reply #20 posted 04/24/24 12:23pm

bozojones

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It's simply Jack Antonoff employing a LinnDrum-style plugin to recreate the 80s sound. There's no chance that someone with music as unremarkable as Taylor Swift's is drawing inspiration from Prince's musical style.



Deja vu...
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