WhisperingDandelions said:

Gooddoctor23 said:

Waste of time........Prince has as much recorded material as anyone in history yet these folks are going back 2 PR? This shit is insulting.

CO-sign.

And it's hardly a significant numeral "anniversary", gimme a break. This is the least pressing SDE in Prince's entire catalogue--no, not because I don't believe it to be a great album or worthy of an SDE, because it's going to happen again and again anyway--it already did happen, proving my point to a T. They should just name it Purple Rain SDE Vol. 2.

The 2017 release wasn't even a SDE, it was a rushed cash-grab with whatever Warner had laying around their archives. They missed a shitload of unreleased tracks, and the remaster of the album itself was atrocious.

If you're sick of Purple Rain, that's fine, but you can't seriously think what they put out in 2017 was "good enough".

Gooddoctor23 said:

Waste of time........Prince has as much recorded material as anyone in history yet these folks are going back 2 PR? This shit is insulting.

Going back? They barely even were there in 2017 lol I know we all want Prince's material from all eras but nobody can call it a waste of time to return to the era and material most people want most from Prince

RODSERLING said:

Sorry, but for 25$, the PR SDE 2017, or whatever it is called, contains more interesting audio material than for D&P SDE at 150$. I listened to it lately, it s really like comparing night and day. It was more than fairly priced, for 3cd+1vhs. You can say the remaster was awful, but it was the way Prince intented it. If they had released another remastering, you would have all complained about this. Who cares anyway, because we have all the original album. I listened to the remaster only once when released, and that was the last time I listened to the album at all. Purple Rain is like Thriller to me, it s great, sure, but I just can't stand it anymore.

I agree.

It was not as elaborate as the 1999, SOTT and D&P sde, but that single disc with vault material on the 2017 PR, even if somewhat messy and patchy, goes straight to the point. All killer, no filler.

The PR SDE will happen as part of a major publicity campaign.
Andrea Swensson's historical view of the period comes out in May, obviously any Celebration will be centered on the subject, and I'm predicting the Netflix doc will finally be viewed.

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

This has potential to actually be really, really good - maybe the best SDE release yet - but only if they actually do something comprehensive and complete.

laytonian said:

Andrea Swensson's historical view of the period comes out in May,

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Considering the low amount of pages, I don't expect her book to be revelatory.

Gooddoctor23 said:

Waste of time........Prince has as much recorded material as anyone in history yet these folks are going back 2 PR? This shit is insulting.

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Nobody cares about Prince's output from 1996-2014. That shit didn't sell when he was alive.

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Meanwhile PR is the big kahuna, and if done well that release should generate a ton of money and publicity. Plus they won't have to deal with Sony, since PR is all Warner around the world.

lustmealways said:

This has potential to actually be really, really good - maybe the best SDE release yet - but only if they actually do something comprehensive and complete.

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I bet it will be wildly incomplete and underwhelming. Our best hope is the old regime has done a ton of preparatory work, because going by the one thing the new regime cooked up they'd be able to severely mishandle PR.

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Then again, unless the new regime approve the Netflix doc, expect there to be little in the way of video.

My ideal would be at least 5-6 discs of vault material including all "originals" of the era, early mixes, very rough demos, etc, as well as 8/3/83 video and audio, 6/7/84 video and audio, and maybe a main tour PR show video and audio that's not Syracuse.

My prediction is we will get nothing close to that!

bizzie said:

Gooddoctor23 said:

Waste of time........Prince has as much recorded material as anyone in history yet these folks are going back 2 PR? This shit is insulting.

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Nobody cares about Prince's output from 1996-2014. That shit didn't sell when he was alive.

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Meanwhile PR is the big kahuna, and if done well that release should generate a ton of money and publicity. Plus they won't have to deal with Sony, since PR is all Warner around the world.

I know I'm in the minority, but I loved much of his output from 1996 through 2014. I realize from a business perspective fans like me don't matter. It nevertheless makes me sad to know we're unlikely to get much from the latter half of his career. We did get W2A. They might throw us another small bone or two, but they'll be the exceptions.

lurker316 said:

bizzie said:

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Nobody cares about Prince's output from 1996-2014. That shit didn't sell when he was alive.

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Meanwhile PR is the big kahuna, and if done well that release should generate a ton of money and publicity. Plus they won't have to deal with Sony, since PR is all Warner around the world.

I know I'm in the minority, but I loved much of his output from 1996 through 2014. I realize from a business perspective fans like me don't matter. It nevertheless makes me sad to know we're unlikely to get much from the latter half of his career. We did get W2A. They might throw us another small bone or two, but they'll be the exceptions.

sadly, yes. i wish we would be getting much, much more material from 1996 onward.

RODSERLING said:

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

Tho id like them to go back to the 1999 sde set style of packaging personally.

I'd like it too. These heavy box-sets are a pain in the ass to store in a shelf. Whereas the 1999 SDE was sized like a regular CD ( or 5 regular cds). The apotheose of these useless heavy box-sets were the Piano and Mic 1983. You were supposed to pay more than the regular CD to have some extras. You only have a vinyl without his sleeve, and a completely useless booklet. It cost exactly the same amount of money if you took the CD + the vinyl separately.

the new sde format is just a gimmicky bulking up exercise.

a load of stuff that weighs a lot, takes up space, but isnt really that special, and often is unjustified.

id be happy with a good PR SDE. ie one with all the multiple takes, vault songs, live shows, etc.

but as long its comprehensive. it wont be though as they will want to milk PR again later down the line as its THE big seller out of princes albums.

as far as vault releases from after 96, i wouldnt mind more material from 96 on, but only if its curated. prob safe to say that there were less gems, less amazing vault songs the further you go into his career, so i dont want 4 discs where there are only a few keepers. but id be interested to see whats there. i dont know much about the unreleased material from this period or what its like.

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RODSERLING said:

WhiteSandsHideaway11 said:

tritoncin said:

If there’s a PR SDE, they also need to include the 17 Days extended & the version of Dance Electric with more guitar riffs, which is the most popular among fans… That’s IMHO.

The version that is out there with Wendy and Lisa of TDE right? If so I totally agree, that is one of my favorite Prince studio songs of all time and while the one on the previous Deluxe is okay, the ommision of all those additions makes the track very empty sounding by comparison

strawberryletter23 said:

tritoncin said:

If there’s a PR SDE, they also need to include the 17 Days extended & the version of Dance Electric with more guitar riffs, which is the most popular among fans… That’s IMHO.

The version that is out there with Wendy and Lisa of TDE right? If so I totally agree, that is one of my favorite Prince studio songs of all time and while the one on the previous Deluxe is okay, the ommision of all those additions makes the track very empty sounding by comparison

yes, that one.

WhiteSandsHideaway11 said:

I will never understand the disconnect when people talk about that 2017 release as anything like the SDE’s.. it was a short set with a few outtakes.. it obviously wasn’t anything to even be discussed with 1999, SOTT, or D&P super deluxe sets.. & anyone who thinks Prince’s most popular album doesn’t deserve the same attention and respect that the Super Deluxe Versions are getting is just baffling..

Of course it deserves a full former SDE. Eventually.

5 years after the regular RDE whatever you want to call it? Now that's baffling.

You seriously think the Estate will miss the opportunity to do this again on a real anniversary?

Purple Rain RDE was like 5 releases ago. I'm not saying can PR40 SDE for all eternity... I'm saying save it for a real anniversary, and give a couple other albums a chance to shine before spamming more PR

Because more PR will be spammed again. Some of you acting dramatic like this is the fans last shot at a Purple Rain deluxe edition. Uh, no, it's the fans second-shot in five years. It's enough. Give it some space. What's next, 1999 Super Duper Deluxe? When does this quadruple-dip madness stop?

bizzie said:

Gooddoctor23 said:

Waste of time........Prince has as much recorded material as anyone in history yet these folks are going back 2 PR? This shit is insulting.

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Nobody cares about Prince's output from 1996-2014. That shit didn't sell when he was alive.

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Meanwhile PR is the big kahuna, and if done well that release should generate a ton of money and publicity. Plus they won't have to deal with Sony, since PR is all Warner around the world.

I guess my name is 'nobody" Nice 2 meet u.........now bring out the non PR material. Cash in hand.

Gooddoctor23 said:

bizzie said:

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Nobody cares about Prince's output from 1996-2014. That shit didn't sell when he was alive.

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Meanwhile PR is the big kahuna, and if done well that release should generate a ton of money and publicity. Plus they won't have to deal with Sony, since PR is all Warner around the world.

I guess my name is 'nobody" Nice 2 meet u.........now bring out the non PR material. Cash in hand.

+1

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The Rainbow Children II, Madrid 2 Chicago, Hit 'n' Run Phase III... I'm more curious about the remain of those projects than a forever Purple Rain dissection.

Gooddoctor23 said:

bizzie said:

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Nobody cares about Prince's output from 1996-2014. That shit didn't sell when he was alive.

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Meanwhile PR is the big kahuna, and if done well that release should generate a ton of money and publicity. Plus they won't have to deal with Sony, since PR is all Warner around the world.

I guess my name is 'nobody" Nice 2 meet u.........now bring out the non PR material. Cash in hand.

I think their point is rather, of course Prince fans want all of his music from all eras. But we gotta be reaslitic here, Purple Rain deserves a glow up - the 2017 release really wasn't a proper one be it remaster OR Vault material and the vast majority of the music buying public cares about Purple Rain the most as an era


Like it or not, Purple Rain objectivity deserves a proper glow-up and so as hardcore of a Prince fan as I am, I can't be mad that one of the most legendary 80s albums of all time finally will get a proper deluxe version

they should do the definative version of purple rain with 32 disks like they did with the wall or whatever pink floyd box sets .. with a 7 disk version and a 3 disk version .. but give us one set with everything so nobody needs to revisit it again .. that would be cool!

they should also do a live series with limited print .. like pearl jam phish and metallica do .. can't be that hard to figure out

TrevorAyer said:

they should do the definative version of purple rain with 32 disks like they did with the wall or whatever pink floyd box sets .. with a 7 disk version and a 3 disk version .. but give us one set with everything so nobody needs to revisit it again .. that would be cool!

I like this idea.I want a big,lavish set that includes everything.