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Reply #30 posted 10/31/23 9:18pm

Landonfunkmonk
ey

bluegangsta said:



happyshopper said:


From what I heard they need more vault tracks to complete the Symbol SDE, to have 3 disks like the others.

There's 26 songs, roughly 1 hour and 56 minutes. And the quality of the tracks are significantly better, compared to the D&P outakes.



Have you heard them all?

Are there many alternative versions of already released tracks.

It would be cool to know the track list.

A set a similar size to the 1999 super deluxe.

If it's already preys much done they should get this out soon.

Give it 6 months and we'll all be ready for it.
[Edited 10/31/23 14:28pm]
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Reply #31 posted 10/31/23 9:31pm

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happyshopper said:

Ramzoo said:

"1999" had 2....

True. I guess it depends on what exists, or what they can find, and what they think fits. The rumours of them wanting to make it 3 disks may not be correct. . Any speculation on the live shows for the Symbol SDE?


The 2/18/93 Glam Slam show was multi cam also. I've seen the 4/2/93 show from Detroit and it's great as well. I would prefer an Act 1 show instead of Act II, since a lot of the prince material was dropped.

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Reply #32 posted 10/31/23 9:39pm

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I'd like to know what is gonna happen to the O)+> remaster printed at the beginning fo 2023

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Reply #33 posted 11/01/23 7:10am

iveivan

It would be great to hear the Symbol vault tracks but the cost of the Diamonds and Love vinyl box set would have been huge. They would be reducing the market if they had gone for that option. More copies of separate SDE box sets will sell than a combined one even if the total price is better for a combined one.

[Edited 11/1/23 0:12am]

[Edited 11/1/23 0:12am]

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Reply #34 posted 11/01/23 9:00am

FrankieCoco1

themanfromneptune said:

I'd like to know what is gonna happen to the O)+> remaster printed at the beginning fo 2023



Due to de-merging the joint SDE, it’s pending and likely released next year is what people in the know know (I’m not quite in that circle). Don’t know if that means there will be a Love Symbol SDE at the same time but will have to wait and see, whilst taking in the D&P SDE.
There may or may not be something coming!
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Reply #35 posted 11/01/23 11:40am

bluegangsta

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Landonfunkmonkey said:

bluegangsta said:

There's 26 songs, roughly 1 hour and 56 minutes. And the quality of the tracks are significantly better, compared to the D&P outakes.

Have you heard them all? Are there many alternative versions of already released tracks. It would be cool to know the track list. A set a similar size to the 1999 super deluxe. If it's already preys much done they should get this out soon. Give it 6 months and we'll all be ready for it. [Edited 10/31/23 14:28pm]

Yes.

2 Band Demos of released tracks.
1 Solo (Demo - although it's unlikely he went beyond this recording).
3 "Early/ Original Versions".
1 "Full Version"

Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain.
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Reply #36 posted 11/01/23 2:07pm

fortuneandsere
ndipity

The deluxe editions have always been a hot mess. Take 2017's Purple Rain for instance. The brilliantly merged Our Destiny/ Roadhouse Garden tracks were recorded after the tyrannical purple yoda had instructed all purple rain recording sessions must cease at once. From an inspired decision by the Prince Estate to a dumb af one, inclusion of the lackluster Dance Electric - which happens to share the same drumbeat as the superior, but absent, All Day All Night (oddly enough recorded same day as Our Destiny & Roadhouse Garden) - a song which was recorded not only after recording sessions had finished, but after the Purple Rain album and movie were released as well. Slightly mind-boggling. Of course complicating matters even further, Prince decided to record Pop Life, one of his best known songs, during the Purple Rain sessions. And that ended up on Around the World In a Day, an album he had mostly recorded before even embarking on the Purple Rain tour.

Take these compilations as what they are. An aural analogy to what it feels like being on holiday, stopping by an ice cream parlor, getting spoilt for choice with the different flavors, and ending up pigging out on all of them until such time you have to vomit from the self-indulgence. A lesson for life perhaps. Or alternatively, check out the main brother BrothaCharles Ward, who does a sterling job of putting together ample compilations of material from the same timeframe, with better sequencing of tracks so the songs flow better. The Estate are well aware of his presence and only seem annoyed by him when they release actual product with the same songs as one of his collections, resulting in it being taken down.



[Edited 11/1/23 10:12am]

The world's problems like climate change can only be solved through strategic long-term thinking, not expediency. In other words all the govts. need sacking!

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Reply #37 posted 11/01/23 2:12pm

themanfromnept
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FrankieCoco1 said:

themanfromneptune said:

I'd like to know what is gonna happen to the O)+> remaster printed at the beginning fo 2023

Due to de-merging the joint SDE, it’s pending and likely released next year is what people in the know know (I’m not quite in that circle). Don’t know if that means there will be a Love Symbol SDE at the same time but will have to wait and see, whilst taking in the D&P SDE.

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Thank you.

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Reply #38 posted 11/01/23 4:26pm

Landonfunkmonk
ey

bluegangsta said:



Landonfunkmonkey said:


bluegangsta said:


There's 26 songs, roughly 1 hour and 56 minutes. And the quality of the tracks are significantly better, compared to the D&P outakes.



Have you heard them all? Are there many alternative versions of already released tracks. It would be cool to know the track list. A set a similar size to the 1999 super deluxe. If it's already preys much done they should get this out soon. Give it 6 months and we'll all be ready for it. [Edited 10/31/23 14:28pm]

Yes.

2 Band Demos of released tracks.
1 Solo (Demo - although it's unlikely he went beyond this recording).
3 "Early/ Original Versions".
1 "Full Version"



Thanks.

I'm trying to think what the 3 original songs would be.

With This Tear
House In Order
Color
Something BIG Is Coming.
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Reply #39 posted 11/01/23 4:30pm

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So if they're doing PR presumably mid next year, where does that leave room for Symbol?
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Reply #40 posted 11/01/23 4:30pm

Mindbells9

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Landonfunkmonkey said:

bluegangsta said:



Landonfunkmonkey said:


bluegangsta said:


There's 26 songs, roughly 1 hour and 56 minutes. And the quality of the tracks are significantly better, compared to the D&P outakes.



Have you heard them all? Are there many alternative versions of already released tracks. It would be cool to know the track list. A set a similar size to the 1999 super deluxe. If it's already preys much done they should get this out soon. Give it 6 months and we'll all be ready for it. [Edited 10/31/23 14:28pm]

Yes.

2 Band Demos of released tracks.
1 Solo (Demo - although it's unlikely he went beyond this recording).
3 "Early/ Original Versions".
1 "Full Version"



Thanks.

I'm trying to think what the 3 original songs would be.

With This Tear
House In Order
Color


I've always wanted Prince's version of Color, if it exists. I love that song
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Reply #41 posted 11/01/23 5:13pm

Dilan

fortuneandserendipity said:

The deluxe editions have always been a hot mess. Take 2017's Purple Rain for instance. The brilliantly merged Our Destiny/ Roadhouse Garden tracks were recorded after the tyrannical purple yoda had instructed all purple rain recording sessions must cease at once. From an inspired decision by the Prince Estate to a dumbfounded one, inclusion of the lackluster Dance Electric - which happens to share the same drumbeat as the superior, but absent, All Day All Night (oddly enough recorded same day as Our Destiny & Roadhouse Garden) - a song which was recorded not only after recording sessions had finished, but after the Purple Rain album and movie were released as well. Slightly mind-boggling. Of course complicating matters even further, Prince decided to record Pop Life, one of his best known songs, during the Purple Rain sessions. And that ended up on Around the World In a Day, an album he had mostly recorded before even embarking on the Purple Rain tour.

Take these compilations as what they are. An aural analogy to what it feels like being on holiday, stopping by an ice cream parlor, getting spoilt for choice with the different flavors, and ending up pigging out on all of them until such time you have to vomit from the self-indulgence. A lesson for life perhaps. Or alternatively, check out the main brother BrothaCharles Ward, who does a sterling job of putting together ample compilations of material from the same timeframe, with better sequencing of tracks so the songs flow better. The Estate are well aware of his presence and only seem annoyed by him when they release actual product with the same songs as one of his collections, resulting in it being taken down.



Wtf are you even talking about how can you be complaining about the PR deluxe when it was one of the estates first projects 6 years ago

I'm feeling a bit fammy™
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Reply #42 posted 11/01/23 5:17pm

laytonian

Has anyone here never given a briefing to corporate executives?

If you want the Estate to listen, don't write rambling posts that are like unedited books

Use bullet points.
Omit emotions.
Then review and refine

There's a reason the acronym TL:DR came into being. I'm sure there is valuable info here but multi screen swipes is too many.
Welcome to "the org", laytonian… come bathe with me.
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Reply #43 posted 11/01/23 5:48pm

fortuneandsere
ndipity

Dilan said:

fortuneandserendipity said:

The deluxe editions have always been a hot mess. Take 2017's Purple Rain for instance. The brilliantly merged Our Destiny/ Roadhouse Garden tracks were recorded after the tyrannical purple yoda had instructed all purple rain recording sessions must cease at once. From an inspired decision by the Prince Estate to a dumbfounded one, inclusion of the lackluster Dance Electric - which happens to share the same drumbeat as the superior, but absent, All Day All Night (oddly enough recorded same day as Our Destiny & Roadhouse Garden) - a song which was recorded not only after recording sessions had finished, but after the Purple Rain album and movie were released as well. Slightly mind-boggling. Of course complicating matters even further, Prince decided to record Pop Life, one of his best known songs, during the Purple Rain sessions. And that ended up on Around the World In a Day, an album he had mostly recorded before even embarking on the Purple Rain tour.

Take these compilations as what they are. An aural analogy to what it feels like being on holiday, stopping by an ice cream parlor, getting spoilt for choice with the different flavors, and ending up pigging out on all of them until such time you have to vomit from the self-indulgence. A lesson for life perhaps. Or alternatively, check out the main brother BrothaCharles Ward, who does a sterling job of putting together ample compilations of material from the same timeframe, with better sequencing of tracks so the songs flow better. The Estate are well aware of his presence and only seem annoyed by him when they release actual product with the same songs as one of his collections, resulting in it being taken down.



Wtf are you even talking about how can you be complaining about the PR deluxe when it was one of the estates first projects 6 years ago


It was an amazing project, don't get me wrong. And hasn't 6 years flown by? Speaking of figures, Purple Rain was what made Prince the biggest star of 1984. Which was 16 years before 2000, the new millennium. 16 years after 2000 he was dead. Just mere coincidence or something deeper? Look hard enough in the bible and you'll see the number 11 reappear over and over. Look a bit harder still though, and you'll also see the number 4 and 7 appear a few times. And probably other numbers too. It's all a bit of fun really, whatever orgers' frequent sanctimonous nitpicking over what should or should not appear in the deluxe compilations is trying to achieve. At the end of the day, a cigar is just a cigar.



The world's problems like climate change can only be solved through strategic long-term thinking, not expediency. In other words all the govts. need sacking!

If you can add value to someone's life then why not. Especially if it colors their days...
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Reply #44 posted 11/01/23 8:11pm

happyshopper

lustmealways said:

So if they're doing PR presumably mid next year, where does that leave room for Symbol?


An Autumn/Christmas release next year… I’d hope smile
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Reply #45 posted 11/01/23 10:27pm

Landonfunkmonk
ey

bluegangsta said:



Landonfunkmonkey said:


bluegangsta said:


There's 26 songs, roughly 1 hour and 56 minutes. And the quality of the tracks are significantly better, compared to the D&P outakes.



Have you heard them all? Are there many alternative versions of already released tracks. It would be cool to know the track list. A set a similar size to the 1999 super deluxe. If it's already preys much done they should get this out soon. Give it 6 months and we'll all be ready for it. [Edited 10/31/23 14:28pm]

Yes.

2 Band Demos of released tracks.
1 Solo (Demo - although it's unlikely he went beyond this recording).
3 "Early/ Original Versions".
1 "Full Version"



Are there any previously unknown songs included?
Something BIG Is Coming.
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Reply #46 posted 11/02/23 12:10am

Dilan

fortuneandserendipity said:

Dilan said:

Wtf are you even talking about how can you be complaining about the PR deluxe when it was one of the estates first projects 6 years ago


It was an amazing project, don't get me wrong. And hasn't 6 years flown by? Speaking of figures, Purple Rain was what made Prince the biggest star of 1984. Which was 16 years before 2000, the new millennium. 16 years after 2000 he was dead. Just mere coincidence or something deeper? Look hard enough in the bible and you'll see the number 11 reappear over and over. Look a bit harder still though, and you'll also see the number 4 and 7 appear a few times. And probably other numbers too. It's all a bit of fun really, whatever orgers' frequent sanctimonous nitpicking over what should or should not appear in the deluxe compilations is trying to achieve. At the end of the day, a cigar is just a cigar.



Dont smoke crack kids

[Edited 11/1/23 17:11pm]

[Edited 11/1/23 17:11pm]

I'm feeling a bit fammy™
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Reply #47 posted 11/02/23 3:32am

fortuneandsere
ndipity

In 1984 everyone knew who prince was, he was that big a star. Even Michael Jackson (pictured) wanted to know what all the fuss was about, evidently. And evidently Prince would never reach this commerical high again. Though I think it's generally accepted Diamonds and Pearls was his third best selling album after PR and Batman.



CDN media

The world's problems like climate change can only be solved through strategic long-term thinking, not expediency. In other words all the govts. need sacking!

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Reply #48 posted 11/02/23 10:11am

dodger07

Landonfunkmonkey said:

bluegangsta said:

Yes.

2 Band Demos of released tracks.
1 Solo (Demo - although it's unlikely he went beyond this recording).
3 "Early/ Original Versions".
1 "Full Version"

Thanks. I'm trying to think what the 3 original songs would be. With This Tear - House In Order - Color

I'd love these 2.

Color is a great left field shout.

One of the band demos is likely Love 2 The 9's. I believe that was played at the Cele

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Reply #49 posted 11/02/23 10:19am

JorisE73

Landonfunkmonkey said:

bluegangsta said:

Yes.

2 Band Demos of released tracks.
1 Solo (Demo - although it's unlikely he went beyond this recording).
3 "Early/ Original Versions".
1 "Full Version"

Thanks. I'm trying to think what the 3 original songs would be. With This Tear House In Order Color


Blood is Thicker Than time maybe?
I would guess a lot of Tevin campbells tracks would also be on it

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Reply #50 posted 11/02/23 10:21am

JorisE73

happyshopper said:

lustmealways said:
So if they're doing PR presumably mid next year, where does that leave room for Symbol?
An Autumn/Christmas release next year… I’d hope smile


They should definitly do it in the summer time because that's when the anniversary is (June-July)

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Reply #51 posted 11/02/23 10:32am

JorisE73

Landonfunkmonkey said:

bluegangsta said:

Yes.

2 Band Demos of released tracks.
1 Solo (Demo - although it's unlikely he went beyond this recording).
3 "Early/ Original Versions".
1 "Full Version"

Are there any previously unknown songs included?


And down the drain it went.
It seems nothing of interest can be posted here without it becoming a troll match neutral

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Reply #52 posted 11/02/23 10:39am

dodger07

JorisE73 said:

Landonfunkmonkey said:

bluegangsta said: Are there any previously unknown songs included?


[Edited 11/2/23 3:32am]

eek wow, really hope this gets out

Thanks for posting

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Reply #53 posted 11/02/23 10:43am

bluegangsta

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dodger07 said:

JorisE73 said:

[Edited 11/2/23 3:32am]

eek wow, really hope this gets out

Thanks for posting

You really shouldn't. If these tracks get out, there will be no Love Symbol SDE. Ergo, no Act 1/ 2 shows or remasters of music videos.

Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain.
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Reply #54 posted 11/02/23 10:50am

dodger07

bluegangsta said:

dodger07 said:

eek wow, really hope this gets out

Thanks for posting

You really shouldn't. If these tracks get out, there will be no Love Symbol SDE. Ergo, no Act 1/ 2 shows or remasters of music videos.

I actually meant a proper Symbol SDE release..

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Reply #55 posted 11/02/23 10:51am

JorisE73

bluegangsta said:

dodger07 said:

eek wow, really hope this gets out

Thanks for posting

You really shouldn't. If these tracks get out, there will be no Love Symbol SDE. Ergo, no Act 1/ 2 shows or remasters of music videos.


Agreed. I would love for these to arrive on a prince SDE so hopefully the sooner the better, but for the moment I could wait. I'm still digesting D&P SDE.
If this list is real I'll do hope they will add more to it, because D&P still misses alot.

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Reply #56 posted 11/02/23 11:44am

Landonfunkmonk
ey

I'm loving the Diamonds and Pearls tracks.

I would love for them to follow up with these.

That list looks excellent.

In The Middle Of The Night and There are the only songs totally unknown to me.

Thanks for posting
Something BIG Is Coming.
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Reply #57 posted 11/02/23 1:00pm

nv34

By the way, where specifically did Duane say "I Wonder" was an August 1989 track, out of curiosity?

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Reply #58 posted 11/02/23 1:38pm

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nv34 said:

By the way, where specifically did Duane say "I Wonder" was an August 1989 track, out of curiosity?



On a Facebook post where someone asked him about why it wasn't on D&P Deluxe
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Reply #59 posted 11/02/23 3:08pm

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bluegangsta said:

>You really shouldn't. If these tracks get out, there will be no Love Symbol SDE. Ergo, no Act 1/ 2 shows or remasters of music videos.

It's one thing to have the tracks but it's another thing to patronize, especially when I know you're not that dumb. Meaning: unless you have first hand information saying otherwise, there's no world in which they don't move forward with a release they were planning just because a few thousand diehard weirdos have heard the tracks.
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