PurpleBiscuit said:

EnglishGent2 said:

What's going on with this atmos mix? Some of it sounds awful to me. Gett Off sounds like a completely different mix, the snare hits sound muted or like they're going through a filter of some kind. I've had this issue before where Atmos stuff sounds like shit, especially with movies and the dialogue now sounding much less focused and unnatural.

Hearing the same thing on MacBook and iPhone, with both AirPods Pro and AirPods Max. If I turn atmos off, it has the sound profile that I'd expect and sounds great.

What's the atmos like for you guys? Is it the same but the mix just spaced differently? Or does the atmos mix actually have a different basic sound?

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Listening on my iPhone (not preferred, I know) but the remasters were sounding horrid. Had a completely different feel to them. Turned the atmos off and much better- I now have my beloved songs back, and yes, sounding nice and crisp. I'm looking forward to trying the atmos mixes on a proper sound system.

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You're hearing the Atmos mix by default. If you turn it off, you're listening to the regular stereo mix. So you're really hearing two completely different mixes (the original mix, remastered, and a completely new remix). It's a bit confusing, because you see the same album, the same tracks, the same titles, but changing one setting somewhere will lead to a drastically different result. This should be a bit more explicit in the interface.

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olb99 said:

PurpleBiscuit said:

Listening on my iPhone (not preferred, I know) but the remasters were sounding horrid. Had a completely different feel to them. Turned the atmos off and much better- I now have my beloved songs back, and yes, sounding nice and crisp. I'm looking forward to trying the atmos mixes on a proper sound system.

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You're hearing the Atmos mix by default. If you turn it off, you're listening to the regular stereo mix. So you're really hearing two completely different mixes (the original mix, remastered, and a completely new remix). It's a bit confusing, because you see the same album, the same tracks, the same titles, but changing one setting somewhere will lead to a drastically different result. This should be a bit more explicit in the interface.

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Indeed, thanks.

Anyone know who did the new mastering on the original mix?

Happy to get those songs: it helps to bear the wait (4 weeks)!

Cool to hear the piano/keyboard and the Steeles backing vocals higher in the mix on Get Blue.

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Live 4 Love is interesting the way he segues into The Flow and hearing his guide lines with the 'Tony, what we gonna do now.' It's wild to hear him do the rap we've heard Tony do on the boots for years

"Get Blue" is such a cool song.

Even more now with this great sound quality

fredmagnus said:

"Get Blue" is such a cool song.

Even more now with this great sound quality

Yes, I've loved that song since the beginning ("Deposition" in 1997, I guess?). I'm glad to finally see it officially released.

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olb99 said:

PurpleBiscuit said:

Listening on my iPhone (not preferred, I know) but the remasters were sounding horrid. Had a completely different feel to them. Turned the atmos off and much better- I now have my beloved songs back, and yes, sounding nice and crisp. I'm looking forward to trying the atmos mixes on a proper sound system.

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You're hearing the Atmos mix by default. If you turn it off, you're listening to the regular stereo mix. So you're really hearing two completely different mixes (the original mix, remastered, and a completely new remix). It's a bit confusing, because you see the same album, the same tracks, the same titles, but changing one setting somewhere will lead to a drastically different result. This should be a bit more explicit in the interface.

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Yeah, we know that. But why does the atmos mix sound like utter shit? Listening on AirPods Max, which support Atmos.

olb99 said:

fredmagnus said:

"Get Blue" is such a cool song.

Even more now with this great sound quality

Yes, I've loved that song since the beginning ("Deposition" in 1997, I guess?). I'm glad to finally see it officially released.

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I'd say the yellow boot, 1993

Live 4 Love Early Version, it's nice to hear, but it's not a overall strong song.

This version is somehow very cool and has a uninterested, soul-less sound to me.

Not all that much live for love in there. Too unpersonal.

It's like a robotic uninspired early version. Prince's early versions often are far more better and sometimes even brilliant. This one is a filler.

Like i said, nice to hear, but i'm not impressed at all.

Or is it Michael Bland's too perfect drumming that makes it so cold for me?

Also the synths sound again uninspired and uninventive.

This could've been a track for Duran Duran or for Mavis Staples.

fredmagnus said:

olb99 said:

Yes, I've loved that song since the beginning ("Deposition" in 1997, I guess?). I'm glad to finally see it officially released.

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I'd say the yellow boot, 1993

Me too: I think I first heard it on "Yellow" boot.

Ramzoo said:

fredmagnus said:

I'd say the yellow boot, 1993

Me too: I think I first heard it on "Yellow" boot.

Now I remember: I first heard in on the "In Rock" box set from Kiss The Stone (1994), which I probably ordered directly from them. I've never had "Yellow".

dodger07 said:

Cool to hear the piano/keyboard and the Steeles backing vocals higher in the mix on Get Blue.

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Live 4 Love is interesting the way he segues into The Flow and hearing his guide lines with the 'Tony, what we gonna do now.' It's wild to hear him do the rap we've heard Tony do on the boots for years

Which boot has Tony doing this rap? I dont recall hearing that

BIGJAYRAFFAS said:

dodger07 said:

Cool to hear the piano/keyboard and the Steeles backing vocals higher in the mix on Get Blue.

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Live 4 Love is interesting the way he segues into The Flow and hearing his guide lines with the 'Tony, what we gonna do now.' It's wild to hear him do the rap we've heard Tony do on the boots for years

Which boot has Tony doing this rap? I dont recall hearing that

"Uncut Diamonds" and many others I guess.

BIGJAYRAFFAS said:

Revolution81 said:

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Did somebody cock up with live 4 love? they put up one version with a description that didnt match it then took it down and replaced it with another version?

yup they did.

I want to hear Work That Fat.

Vannormal said:

I want to hear Work That Fat.

That's been available in great quality for many years. Probably on YouTube.

EnglishGent2 said:

Vannormal said:

I want to hear Work That Fat.

That's been available in great quality for many years. Probably on YouTube.

Of course i know that, but i want to hear if the verison on the SDE is an even better version or not.

And possibly also in that Dolby Atmos Mix version...

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

Mindbells9 said:

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

Live 4 love is sedate, chilled, compared to the released version. Nice to hear but its a run through, nothing revelatory. If this got released, we would think it incomplete. Get blue makes me think of jam n Lewis writing for janet jackson. Again, a song that sounds like it was for a diff artist to sing (which it was). But the hook just doesnt work for me. Get blue? As in, Get sad? What? I like hearing prince do more regular sounding 90s rnb but this version is nothing id play repeatedly. I like the npg but while they are technically a better band than the revolution (not better than the 87 band though), that doesnt mean they are a better band overall in terms of fitting prince, or rather they encouraged a slickness that is a bit too perfect in a sense. With a band that well drilled, you need less perfect production to balance it out, which prince did more on the next album, but even so, idk, theyre just not as interesting to listen to. Thats more princes decisions than their fault though- d+p is the start of prince the gloss master that reached a kind of apex on TMBGITW. [Edited 9/29/23 13:58pm]

Back in the day, "blue movies" or "blue comedy" meant it was sexually explicit in nature. I've always took "Get Blue" to mean "get nasty, or sexually uninhibited."

yeah that's the bit

''Live 4 Love Early Version)'' The choir you hear in the background from 4:43 on, very nice... a bit Pink Floyd-ish. He should've kept that in the original version imho. Also a pitty it isn't more up front in the mix, in this new version. - Though, Prince's rappin' is aweful in that last part. It's as if he wanted to copy Tony M's style.

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''Get Blue''

An R'nB/NJS all piano song with some synth, and a drumloop...

Nice track.

I don' understand why Prince didn't use a real piano sound.

This electric piano sounds a bit cheap to me.

U know it's a demo or a work version, but Prince use to create demos on real a piano too.

Some early version he created like that sound far better.

Is that Rosie in the choir?

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when did prince care about 'real' sounds? sometimes of course, he sought out a real piano, drum kit, etc but by and large the only 'real' instrument you could rely on him to use was a guitar. everything else, he was never worried about using drum machines, synth bass, electric piano, or as with the 88 tour, an electric grand piano (someone correct me if this is wrong). he could have had a real one on that tour, but there were no hammers inside that piano he was playing! also, these songs like alice through... and get blue were basically 90 rnb tracks - in general no one was using real pianos in that genre at this time, so its doubtful prince would. esp as these songs were either for other artists or faithful to the sounds of the time. there were other songs he was fine using traditional instruments for (ie most of the D&P album).

Vannormal said:

This electric piano sounds a bit cheap to me.

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+1

Yea, Live 4 Love is nice.

Get Blue is the cats meow.

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

when did prince care about 'real' sounds? sometimes of course, he sought out a real piano, drum kit, etc but by and large the only 'real' instrument you could rely on him to use was a guitar. everything else, he was never worried about using drum machines, synth bass, electric piano, or as with the 88 tour, an electric grand piano (someone correct me if this is wrong). he could have had a real one on that tour, but there were no hammers inside that piano he was playing! also, these songs like alice through... and get blue were basically 90 rnb tracks - in general no one was using real pianos in that genre at this time, so its doubtful prince would. esp as these songs were either for other artists or faithful to the sounds of the time. there were other songs he was fine using traditional instruments for (ie most of the D&P album).

Never thought about that. Interesting. Thanks

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But I would say he cared A LOT about sound. not meaning the quality of it, but the pure sound, to sound different, original and inventive!

He changed the use of drum machines, was very creative in using the sound of all his instruments (even Guitar), that Purple Rain era Guitar sound; who used it besides him?

Many people tried to copy his sound in the eighties after his sudden stardom, imho of course.