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Reply #90 posted 08/27/23 1:15pm

scififilmnerd

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fredmagnus said:

Come one, come all The line is long tonight She said "I don't care, no baby, that's all right" I got a job to do (Work) now hit the lights Come and see Alice work [Chorus] Alice through the looking glass Come in slow, go out fast No man has ever lasted Alice through the looking glass Come one, come all see Alice through the looking glass Come and see Alice work [Verse 2] Some call it a curse Some call it sweet salvation No one can deny the stimulation Ask Alice “What it is," she says, "it’s my occupation” Come and see Alice work

Sounds like she works as a stripper. smile Or a prostitute? confused

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Reply #91 posted 08/27/23 1:32pm

fredmagnus

scififilmnerd said:



fredmagnus said:


Come one, come all The line is long tonight She said "I don't care, no baby, that's all right" I got a job to do (Work) now hit the lights Come and see Alice work [Chorus] Alice through the looking glass Come in slow, go out fast No man has ever lasted Alice through the looking glass Come one, come all see Alice through the looking glass Come and see Alice work [Verse 2] Some call it a curse Some call it sweet salvation No one can deny the stimulation Ask Alice “What it is," she says, "it’s my occupation” Come and see Alice work


Sounds like she works as a stripper. smile Or a prostitute? confused

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Indeed.
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Reply #92 posted 08/27/23 3:27pm

funkbabyandthe
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maybe prince was visiting amsterdam and looking at the prostitutes in the windows

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Reply #93 posted 08/27/23 4:54pm

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Reminds me a bit of Pheromone. Alice has a spooky vibe to it. I like it.

As for the box set itself, it’s a bit pricey for me.
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Reply #94 posted 08/27/23 5:09pm

LOSTPASSWORDMA
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Check the record! biggrin

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Agree it sounds like a Martika demo - with that swingbeat vibe about it.
A precursor to Pheremone as well?

[Edited 8/24/23 9:23am]

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Reply #95 posted 08/27/23 6:12pm

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funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

maybe prince was visiting amsterdam and looking at the prostitutes in the windows

I thought the same thing !

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Reply #96 posted 08/27/23 6:15pm

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scififilmnerd said:

eduJ said:

I first heard Sheila sing it back in 1991 on her Sex Cymbal tour in San Jose. I wonder if it was slated for that abandoned Paisley album?

That abandoned Paisley Park album was in 1989. You'd have known that if you'd checked the Track Lists For Unreleased Albums And Singles chapter on The Chronological Prince ...ings Index blog. smile

But even though Sheila was laughing at her past Prince Collaborations on her non-Paisley 1991 Sex Cymbal album, she was still seeing him according to Robin Power, so she might have added her vocals on Alice back then, I suppose. confused

But when she performed the song at the 2002 Celebration, she had been touring with him as seen in Live at the Aladdin, so maybe she added her vocals to one of his songs (Alice) then? And then she also performed it at the Family Jamm in 2003. Now she was with Prince again and he gave her that song like he gave her Leader of the Band when they were hanging out again in 2010? confused

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I didn't know he gave her leader of the band. I thought it was a joint collaboration.

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Reply #97 posted 08/28/23 12:23am

Mackopolis44

So, I got around to listening to this one. Really disappointing considering some of the hyperbole spouted about it.

It's a very vague, unfinished sonic sketch. I can hear why it wasn't released.

Don't get me wrong, I'm excited to hear more vault material but this is substandard. That's my opinion. Persuade me otherwise 😎✌️❤️
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Reply #98 posted 08/28/23 1:22am

JorisE73

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LILpoundCAKE said:


It's a great track! But I wouldn't go that far. It also sounds like it could have done with a little bit
more work, perhaps? Seems like a demo to me. A very far along demo, but a demo still.


You can definitely tell it’s a demo. Whenever Prince mimics a saxophone, it meant that he needed Eric to record it later smile Check the two versions of Cocoa Boys. With and without Prince mimicking the sax.


If you listen better the mimcs are still there in the releasd version.

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Reply #99 posted 08/28/23 1:45am

psyche2

Mackopolis44 said:

So, I got around to listening to this one. Really disappointing considering some of the hyperbole spouted about it. It's a very vague, unfinished sonic sketch. I can hear why it wasn't released. Don't get me wrong, I'm excited to hear more vault material but this is substandard. That's my opinion. Persuade me otherwise 😎✌️❤️

Sadly, I have to agree.

But I'm not that surprised considering it's era - Many of the (known) songs from the Vault discs are also of questionable quality to me. I don't get the hype for the likes of "Get Blue" or even "Open Book" (which while I reckon is nicely crafted it's a cheesy fest).

I'll get my coat.

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Reply #100 posted 08/30/23 10:00am

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Cool. Moans like Howlin' Wolf, shows his musical awareness. cool
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Reply #101 posted 08/30/23 11:14am

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Mackopolis44 said:

So, I got around to listening to this one. Really disappointing considering some of the hyperbole spouted about it. It's a very vague, unfinished sonic sketch. I can hear why it wasn't released. Don't get me wrong, I'm excited to hear more vault material but this is substandard. That's my opinion. Persuade me otherwise 😎✌️❤️


Same, of all the shit that is probably available from this time, including live stuff and rehersals, I would have left this one out for some future "vault" release, not great.

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Reply #102 posted 08/30/23 11:37am

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LILpoundCAKE said:

Landonfunkmonkey said:

I like it. I don't think it would have been a good fit for the album. I could imagine it being on an album with tracks like Allegiance and Get Blue I get a more of a late 80's vibe from it.


It goes well with the Martika songs and other stuff from the era nod

There's a whole 10 song album on this set that sounds a bit more like early 90's music
and a little sprinkle of new jack swing. And I like that idea, I'm looking forward to just
making a cool playlist of such tracks to enjoy as an 'album that never was'.


What would those ten songs be?

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Reply #103 posted 08/30/23 12:10pm

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I'm not digging this song. I'm not a fan of this style of production.


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Reply #104 posted 08/30/23 3:33pm

LILpoundCAKE

TheGloved1 said:

LILpoundCAKE said:


It goes well with the Martika songs and other stuff from the era nod

There's a whole 10 song album on this set that sounds a bit more like early 90's music
and a little sprinkle of new jack swing. And I like that idea, I'm looking forward to just
making a cool playlist of such tracks to enjoy as an 'album that never was'.


What would those ten songs be?


not sure yet what 10 songs I would pick, I'll have to hear them all first smile

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Reply #105 posted 08/30/23 7:02pm

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lurker316 said:


I'm not digging this song. I'm not a fan of this style of production.


Me too. Still my least fave era.

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Reply #106 posted 08/31/23 8:36am

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I think it's a decent track, I like the bass in it.

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Reply #107 posted 08/31/23 10:56am

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Jeez, ya know, i just can't relate to these 4 pages of gibberish cuz there just isn't a link to be found here to access the kackadoody song!

Ya know?

Ya got any loods?

[Edited 8/31/23 10:56am]

"Whatever skin we're in
we all need 2 b friends"
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Reply #108 posted 09/01/23 5:46pm

CAL3

It's junk. Get a grip, some of you.

I’ve been informed that my opinion is worth less than those expressed by others here.
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Reply #109 posted 09/02/23 9:55am

Vannormal

chrisslope9 said:

lurker316 said:I'm not digging this song. I'm not a fan of this style of production.

Me too. Still my least fave era.

same same

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #110 posted 09/04/23 12:56am

LIVESexy88

I’m a fan of Prince’s New Jack efforts so with that said I love Alice Through The Looking Glass

Really looking forward to the rest that D&P SDE has to offer
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Reply #111 posted 09/04/23 9:42am

AvocadosMax

I asked Chatgpt to analyze the lyrics:


Prince's music has always been characterized by its depth, layered meanings, and often a sense of ambiguity that invites multiple interpretations. "Alice Through The Looking Glass" is no exception. Let's analyze some of its themes and motifs:

1. **Title Reference**: The title and recurrent theme reference Lewis Carroll's "Through the Looking-Glass," which is the sequel to "Alice's Adventures in Wonderland." In Carroll's story, Alice steps through a looking glass (a mirror) into a world that is a reversed reflection of her own. This could symbolize a world of illusion, deception, or perhaps an alternate reality. Prince might be drawing parallels to a world or industry that may seem glamorous on the outside but is very different beneath the surface.

2. **Verse 1 & Chorus**: The song starts with an invitation, possibly a performance or a show ("Come one, come all"). Alice seems indifferent to the crowd or the spectacle ("I don't care, no baby, that's all right"). The mention of "come and see Alice work" suggests that whatever she's doing, it requires effort, maybe even a performance of its own.

3. **Verses 2 & 3**: Here we get hints about the duality of Alice's life or profession. Some see it as a "curse," while others see it as "salvation." This could allude to the divisive nature of fame or a particular profession. Her legs being "longer than a country mile" and being the author of "Style" could be emphasizing her beauty, allure, or perhaps her dominance in whatever she does.

4. **Verse 4**: This verse provides insight into Alice's personal life. She's been wronged or betrayed by friends, suggesting a history of hardship or betrayal. The line "No one will ever know, the meaning of my song" could be Prince's way of emphasizing the enigmatic nature of Alice's life or the song's deeper meanings.

5. **Verse 5**: People come to see Alice, perhaps to judge or be entertained. The line "That your Alice [?] to glorify" is a bit ambiguous due to the uncertain word, but it suggests that people come to praise or exalt Alice in some way. The mention of tears in her eyes indicates that, despite the facade or performance, Alice has her own struggles and pain.

6. **Outro**: The repetition in the outro echoes the themes from the chorus, emphasizing the allure and enigma that is Alice. The repeated lines are almost hypnotic, suggesting a trance or allure that pulls people in.

Overall, Prince paints a vivid picture of a mysterious woman named Alice, who lives in a world of contradictions - allure and pain, glamour and betrayal, reality and illusion. The song is a testament to Prince's talent in crafting deep, thought-provoking music.
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Reply #112 posted 09/04/23 9:57am

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Alice? WHO THE FUCK IS ALICE???!!!

"Whatever skin we're in
we all need 2 b friends"
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Reply #113 posted 09/04/23 11:35pm

Vannormal

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Alice? WHO THE FUCK IS ALICE???!!!

Reminds me of Holland! wink))))

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #114 posted 09/05/23 8:51am

TraSoul82

AvocadosMax said:

I asked Chatgpt to analyze the lyrics:


Prince's music has always been characterized by its depth, layered meanings, and often a sense of ambiguity that invites multiple interpretations. "Alice Through The Looking Glass" is no exception. Let's analyze some of its themes and motifs:


I personally subscribe to the theory that Prince was struggling with his early days of veganism, and was so tempted to get a sample of chicken salad while perusing the grocery store, he wrote a song about it.
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Reply #115 posted 09/06/23 9:27am

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Is it just me or is there a sound effect troughout the song from the openinig of Eye No. It's driving me crazy.

This is from Prince Vault:
The opening sequence of Eye No is in fact a sample of a sound effects album titled Out Of This World - Atmospheric Sounds And Effects a 1976 compilation from the BBC Radiophonic Workshop. On there it is titled Passing Clouds, credited to Roger Limb. Prince also used effects and sounds from the same album on work with Ingrid Chavez, including Heaven Must Be Near, Crystal City Cry and Sad Puppet Dance, and possibly also on Slappy Dappy and Jadestone.
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Reply #116 posted 09/06/23 10:09am

laytonian

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

maybe prince was visiting amsterdam and looking at the prostitutes in the windows


Exactly what I thought!

Welcome to "the org", laytonian… come bathe with me.
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