Reply #510 posted 08/24/23 2:35pm
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Reply #511 posted 08/24/23 2:42pm
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From the vault discs my most anticipated are
1. Blood On The Sheets 2. Lauriann 3. Streetwalker 4. Darkside 5. Standing At The Altar 6. I Pledge Allegiance To Your Love 7. Open Book 8. Tip O My Tongue 9. Get Blue 10. Don't say U Love Me Something BIG Is Coming. |
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Reply #512 posted 08/24/23 3:03pm
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if people didn't waste money on vinyl then these sets would be meaningfully sized |
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Reply #513 posted 08/24/23 3:23pm
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LILpoundCAKE said:
the songs most of us know nothing about, if i'm correct, are:
laurianne darkside blood on the sheets the last dance trouble alice through the looking glass I pledge allegiance to your love
also, "streetwalker" is a track I have never heard. it's one of the rosie gaines demo tracks but i can't remember if it leaked. I don't think I have it anyway, searched most discs for it by now.
"Streetwalker" is very close to "Trust". Fast groove with Prince whispering "Work it, baby". Really nice piano solo, bu the song doesn't really go anywhere.
"Lauarianne" is a rock song. Early Bealtles-like vocals. It's a nice groove.
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Reply #514 posted 08/24/23 3:24pm
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Posted this elsewhere, but it seems the Vault CDs aren’t chronological, so launching with Schoolyard is pretty much a deliberate statement of intent. I have my criticisms of the Estate - and this set - but have to admit this is a positive and confident indicator of non-censorship in the future. Censoring Prince misses the point of his artistry entirely. [Edited 8/24/23 15:25pm] |
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Reply #515 posted 08/24/23 3:27pm
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[delete] [Edited 8/24/23 22:17pm] Givin' up food for funk. |
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Reply #516 posted 08/24/23 3:31pm
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nayroo2002 said: Thank you! Cant believe my purple psychedelic pimp slap
And I descend from grace, In arms of undertow
I will take my place, In the great below |
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Reply #517 posted 08/24/23 3:43pm
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TheNumber23 said:
Posted this elsewhere, but it seems the Vault CDs aren’t chronological, so launching with Schoolyard is pretty much a deliberate statement of intent. I have my criticisms of the Estate - and this set - but have to admit this is a positive and confident indicator of non-censorship in the future. Censoring Prince misses the point of his artistry entirely.
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No hate to you, but at no point between this set's conception and right now was Schoolyard ever in danger of being "censored" - literally the reason for Lust and Extraloveable was that he said the word in the song in that context, that's it. I promise you there was no more thought put into it than that. Schoolyard, while graphic, isn't the same as the situation with the other two songs.
Trust me. |
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Reply #518 posted 08/24/23 3:52pm
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lustmealways said:
TheNumber23 said:
Posted this elsewhere, but it seems the Vault CDs aren’t chronological, so launching with Schoolyard is pretty much a deliberate statement of intent. I have my criticisms of the Estate - and this set - but have to admit this is a positive and confident indicator of non-censorship in the future. Censoring Prince misses the point of his artistry entirely.
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No hate to you, but at no point between this set's conception and right now was Schoolyard ever in danger of being "censored" - literally the reason for Lust and Extraloveable was that he said the word in the song in that context, that's it. I promise you there was no more thought put into it than that. Schoolyard, while graphic, isn't the same as the situation with the other two songs.
Trust me.
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Reply #519 posted 08/24/23 3:54pm
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Those who want the digital audio only (no video)
https://www.qobuz.com/us-...87jo7d07yb
Pre order - $78 - US site
I dont see any singles for sale
Oh wait, Alice and Insatible are available for purchase [Edited 8/24/23 15:57pm]Cant believe my purple psychedelic pimp slap
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Reply #520 posted 08/24/23 3:54pm
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dadeepop said:[quote] Poplife88 said:
Vannormal said:
Poplife88 said:
Oh I am diggin Alice Through the Looking Glass
OK. nice to have, that's all.
Not much happening, two chords.
I understand why he didn't release it.
Drumloop, no Princy-breaks.
More a demo than a fully produced track.
To each their own...I've been playin the shit out of it since it popped up in my Apple Music. I can't get enough of it!! ![cool](/i/s/icon_cool.gif) Same! It’s mesmerizing. That rolling bass and vocals.[/quote It’s pretty plastic & repetitive sounding, while I like the vocal layering its not a song I’d revisit much . |
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Reply #521 posted 08/24/23 4:06pm
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bluegangsta said:
LILpoundCAKE said:
the songs most of us know nothing about, if i'm correct, are:
laurianne darkside blood on the sheets the last dance trouble alice through the looking glass I pledge allegiance to your love
also, "streetwalker" is a track I have never heard. it's one of the rosie gaines demo tracks but i can't remember if it leaked. I don't think I have it anyway, searched most discs for it by now.
"Streetwalker" is very close to "Trust". Fast groove with Prince whispering "Work it, baby". Really nice piano solo, bu the song doesn't really go anywhere.
"Lauarianne" is a rock song. Early Bealtles-like vocals. It's a nice groove.
cool! sounds interesting ![cool](/i/s/icon_cool.gif) what about "blood on the sheets" and "darkside" ?
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Reply #522 posted 08/24/23 4:33pm
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JorisE73 said:
bluegangsta said:
JorisE73 said:
I expect the Instatiable version to be the one from 'Beginnings' and not the one from the earlier sequence.
It is. I've heard it.
Ah damn. Weird to choose that one instead of the one slated for the album. I secretly hope they'll do remasters of Cream and Gett Off EP's for record store day (also on CD) just to complete the set with all original the releases remeastered.
It would be nice to have the Gangster Glam remixes too, especially Hurley’s. I love the house versions. |
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Reply #523 posted 08/24/23 4:42pm
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bluegangsta said:
LILpoundCAKE said:
the songs most of us know nothing about, if i'm correct, are:
laurianne darkside blood on the sheets the last dance trouble alice through the looking glass I pledge allegiance to your love
also, "streetwalker" is a track I have never heard. it's one of the rosie gaines demo tracks but i can't remember if it leaked. I don't think I have it anyway, searched most discs for it by now.
"Streetwalker" is very close to "Trust". Fast groove with Prince whispering "Work it, baby". Really nice piano solo, bu the song doesn't really go anywhere.
"Lauarianne" is a rock song. Early Bealtles-like vocals. It's a nice groove.
Found this old org thread about Laurianne - I’d also seen that a Laurianne was mentioned in the D&P liner notes. Will be interesting to see more detail about the version on the SDE. https://prince.org/msg/7/60299There may or may not be something coming! |
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Reply #524 posted 08/24/23 11:50pm
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LILpoundCAKE said:
JorisE73 said:
I pledge allegiance to your love = Allegiance I think
princevault says no. it seems to be a album session track/outtake
Ah gotcha Ddin't chck Princevault in all my exitement.
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Reply #525 posted 08/24/23 11:54pm
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TheNumber23 said: Posted this elsewhere, but it seems the Vault CDs aren’t chronological, so launching with Schoolyard is pretty much a deliberate statement of intent. I have my criticisms of the Estate - and this set - but have to admit this is a positive and confident indicator of non-censorship in the future. Censoring Prince misses the point of his artistry entirely. [Edited 8/24/23 15:25pm]
I doubt its any of that
Its simply that its another of many songs in pop music about under age sex (ie less problematic than some here might think)
And it doesnt mention the r-word
Plus its one of the first songs he did for the album iirc which is probably why its up there
Tbh its also one of the strongest outtakes from this period (going from memory) which is another reason [Edited 8/25/23 0:00am] |
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Reply #526 posted 08/25/23 12:14am
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TheNumber23 said:
Posted this elsewhere, but it seems the Vault CDs aren’t chronological, so launching with Schoolyard is pretty much a deliberate statement of intent. I have my criticisms of the Estate - and this set - but have to admit this is a positive and confident indicator of non-censorship in the future. Censoring Prince misses the point of his artistry entirely.
[Edited 8/24/23 15:25pm]
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I'll reserve my judgement until I can actually listen to the track. I sure hope they didn't edit the problematic parts out. This is not very likely, but you never know...
Edit (reading the lyrics again): ok, they would have to edit most of the track if they thought it was problematic... ![lol](/i/s/icon_lol.gif) [Edited 8/25/23 0:16am] |
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Reply #527 posted 08/25/23 12:17am
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ea1313 said:
JorisE73 said:
Ah damn. Weird to choose that one instead of the one slated for the album. I secretly hope they'll do remasters of Cream and Gett Off EP's for record store day (also on CD) just to complete the set with all original the releases remeastered.
It would be nice to have the Gangster Glam remixes too, especially Hurley’s. I love the house versions.
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Reply #528 posted 08/25/23 12:30am
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olb99 said:
I'll reserve my judgement until I can actually listen to the track. I sure hope they didn't edit the problematic parts out. This is not very likely, but you never know...
Edit (reading the lyrics again): ok, they would have to edit most of the track if they thought it was problematic... ![lol](/i/s/icon_lol.gif)
[Edited 8/25/23 0:16am]
It's not edited. Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain. |
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Reply #529 posted 08/25/23 12:35am
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funkbabyandthebabysitters said: TheNumber23 said: Posted this elsewhere, but it seems the Vault CDs aren’t chronological, so launching with Schoolyard is pretty much a deliberate statement of intent. I have my criticisms of the Estate - and this set - but have to admit this is a positive and confident indicator of non-censorship in the future. Censoring Prince misses the point of his artistry entirely. [Edited 8/24/23 15:25pm] I doubt its any of that Its simply that its another of many songs in pop music about under age sex (ie less problematic than some here might think) And it doesnt mention the r-word Plus its one of the first songs he did for the album iirc which is probably why its up there Tbh its also one of the strongest outtakes from this period (going from memory) which is another reason [Edited 8/25/23 0:00am]This a much longer version. I expecting it to be quite different. Wasn't the album going to be called Schoolyard in its early stages Something BIG Is Coming. |
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Reply #530 posted 08/25/23 12:37am
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TheNumber23 said:
Posted this elsewhere, but it seems the Vault CDs aren’t chronological, so launching with Schoolyard is pretty much a deliberate statement of intent. I have my criticisms of the Estate - and this set - but have to admit this is a positive and confident indicator of non-censorship in the future. Censoring Prince misses the point of his artistry entirely.
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Exactly.
Let's wait for it to be released to check the track has not been edited out but i agree that it's a very good sign for the future. Who are we to censor his music ?
It makes me smile when people say that Prince wouldn't have release this or that.
Prince is not there anymore so which Prince are we talking about ? The one over his 50's, the one in his prime or the young Prince recording music in his basements.
There's not just one Prince now, there are lots of them. So which one is more relevant and why should we ask the older Prince if Schoolyard should be released when this song was written when he was 30.
Anyway, looks like a good point for the new Estate. |
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Reply #531 posted 08/25/23 12:39am
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bluegangsta said:
LILpoundCAKE said:
the songs most of us know nothing about, if i'm correct, are:
laurianne darkside blood on the sheets the last dance trouble alice through the looking glass I pledge allegiance to your love
also, "streetwalker" is a track I have never heard. it's one of the rosie gaines demo tracks but i can't remember if it leaked. I don't think I have it anyway, searched most discs for it by now.
"Streetwalker" is very close to "Trust". Fast groove with Prince whispering "Work it, baby". Really nice piano solo, bu the song doesn't really go anywhere.
"Lauarianne" is a rock song. Early Bealtles-like vocals. It's a nice groove.
What do you mean ? Did you get to hear the whole set yet ?? |
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Reply #532 posted 08/25/23 1:41am
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fredmagnus said:
TheNumber23 said:
Posted this elsewhere, but it seems the Vault CDs aren’t chronological, so launching with Schoolyard is pretty much a deliberate statement of intent. I have my criticisms of the Estate - and this set - but have to admit this is a positive and confident indicator of non-censorship in the future. Censoring Prince misses the point of his artistry entirely.
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Exactly.
Let's wait for it to be released to check the track has not been edited out but i agree that it's a very good sign for the future. Who are we to censor his music ?
It makes me smile when people say that Prince wouldn't have release this or that.
Prince is not there anymore so which Prince are we talking about ? The one over his 50's, the one in his prime or the young Prince recording music in his basements.
There's not just one Prince now, there are lots of them. So which one is more relevant and why should we ask the older Prince if Schoolyard should be released when this song was written when he was 30.
Anyway, looks like a good point for the new Estate.
Well, we know for a fact that all of the Princes you mention didn't release Schoolyard, so the only theoretical Prince we can be talking about when we say what we think he would or wouldn't do, is the one that would exist had he not died. |
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Reply #533 posted 08/25/23 1:53am
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I remember hearing about I Pledge Allegiance 2 Your Love as a possible ![prince](/i/s/sym_prince.gif) album track, on a 1-900 number, back in the day (possibly called Purple Underground?). Either I incorrectly assumed, or was given incorrect information, that Allegiance is the same song. Other titles mentioned included Do U Wanna Rock, and Pocket Rocket. You could even call and listen to Schoolyard, for like $2 a minute. My mother was thrilled when the phone bill came. JorisE73 said:
LILpoundCAKE said:
JorisE73 said:
I pledge allegiance to your love = Allegiance I think
princevault says no. it seems to be a album session track/outtake
Ah gotcha Ddin't chck Princevault in all my exitement.
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Reply #534 posted 08/25/23 1:55am
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bluegangsta said:
olb99 said:
I'll reserve my judgement until I can actually listen to the track. I sure hope they didn't edit the problematic parts out. This is not very likely, but you never know...
Edit (reading the lyrics again): ok, they would have to edit most of the track if they thought it was problematic... ![lol](/i/s/icon_lol.gif)
[Edited 8/25/23 0:16am]
It's not edited. I assume you've heard the whole set. An insight into any other songs you could give us. Darkside? Something BIG Is Coming. |
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Reply #535 posted 08/25/23 2:06am
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EnglishGent2 said:
fredmagnus said:
Exactly.
Let's wait for it to be released to check the track has not been edited out but i agree that it's a very good sign for the future. Who are we to censor his music ?
It makes me smile when people say that Prince wouldn't have release this or that.
Prince is not there anymore so which Prince are we talking about ? The one over his 50's, the one in his prime or the young Prince recording music in his basements.
There's not just one Prince now, there are lots of them. So which one is more relevant and why should we ask the older Prince if Schoolyard should be released when this song was written when he was 30.
Anyway, looks like a good point for the new Estate.
Well, we know for a fact that all of the Princes you mention didn't release Schoolyard, so the only theoretical Prince we can be talking about when we say what we think he would or wouldn't do, is the one that would exist had he not died.
He sure did not release it but he recorded it.
As you said he's not there anymore and the Estate is releasing his archives. That's a whole different approach than Prince releasing all of these demos during his lifetime in one of his albums.
That was my point. [Edited 8/25/23 2:07am] |
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Reply #536 posted 08/25/23 2:26am
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funkbabyandthebabysitters said:
TheNumber23 said:
Posted this elsewhere, but it seems the Vault CDs aren’t chronological, so launching with Schoolyard is pretty much a deliberate statement of intent. I have my criticisms of the Estate - and this set - but have to admit this is a positive and confident indicator of non-censorship in the future. Censoring Prince misses the point of his artistry entirely.
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I doubt its any of that Its simply that its another of many songs in pop music about under age sex (ie less problematic than some here might think) And it doesnt mention the r-word Plus its one of the first songs he did for the album iirc which is probably why its up there Tbh its also one of the strongest outtakes from this period (going from memory) which is another reason [Edited 8/25/23 0:00am]
Isn't he just singing what (I think) most people experienced at the 14-16 year old age? I see nothing 'problematic' in the lyrics or song. Who didn't get it on in the schoolyard??
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Reply #537 posted 08/25/23 2:28am
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nayroo2002 said: Still not available on Amazon UK ![sad](/i/s/icon_sad.gif) |
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Reply #538 posted 08/25/23 2:28am
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funkbabyandthebabysitters said:
TheNumber23 said:
Posted this elsewhere, but it seems the Vault CDs aren’t chronological, so launching with Schoolyard is pretty much a deliberate statement of intent. I have my criticisms of the Estate - and this set - but have to admit this is a positive and confident indicator of non-censorship in the future. Censoring Prince misses the point of his artistry entirely.
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I doubt its any of that Its simply that its another of many songs in pop music about under age sex (ie less problematic than some here might think) And it doesnt mention the r-word Plus its one of the first songs he did for the album iirc which is probably why its up there Tbh its also one of the strongest outtakes from this period (going from memory) which is another reason [Edited 8/25/23 0:00am]
But he isn't singing about underage sex is he? or here in a lot of European countries 14 is the legal age.
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Reply #539 posted 08/25/23 2:29am
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JorisE73 said:
funkbabyandthebabysitters said:
TheNumber23 said: I doubt its any of that Its simply that its another of many songs in pop music about under age sex (ie less problematic than some here might think) And it doesnt mention the r-word Plus its one of the first songs he did for the album iirc which is probably why its up there Tbh its also one of the strongest outtakes from this period (going from memory) which is another reason [Edited 8/25/23 0:00am]
Isn't he just singing what (I think) most people experienced at the 14-16 year old age? I see nothing 'problematic' in the lyrics or song. Who didn't get it on in the schoolyard??
you forget that we are dutch and most of these people are american ![lol](/i/s/icon_lol.gif)
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