lustmealways said:

as long as fitting every track on the CD on the LP is a concern, the discs will continue to be undercooked and understuffed.

Are you saying they're more concerned with getting it down to less # of vinyl? Wouldn't more vinyl mean they could jack up the price yet another 50 bucks?

WhisperingDandelions said:

Are you saying they're more concerned with getting it down to less # of vinyl? Wouldn't more vinyl mean they could jack up the price yet another 50 bucks?

I think they're working on the assumption that they can take an LP set so expensive and then no more... which I think is antiquated and that they could get a lot more money by releasing more content at the top level and then breaking it down into many different CD and LP configs: see the way Dylan has been doing his sets (for the most part...)

happyshopper said:

Glam Slam appears to be the live audio, AND the Blu Ray.

wait a sec... wtf? Why is that necessary? Skip the duplicate CD version of the identical Blu Ray show and give us all the mixes or whatever.

Can't we emulate this "CD version" ourselves by simply not watching the video portion of the Blu Ray?

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Kares said:

WhisperingDandelions said:

So 10 minutes shy of 2 discs?? Hmm. Like they added 1 or maybe 2 tracks to give the illusion that the mighty Londell Spicer administration delivered with a whole full disc more than their predecessors when it's a literal extra breadcrumb from their seat cushions?

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It's about 12 minutes more than what could've fitted 2 CDs. A rather questionable editing decision indeed. At least they could've added the audio of the special olympics show onto one of the vault CDs, if they really didn't want to give us any other vault tracks.

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With "Don't Say U Love Me" (4+ minutes) and "Darkside" (not in PPL database), which I hadn't counted, it will be more than 12 minutes. The reason we have so much unused space on those CDs is what lustmealways said: they have to fit the tracks on LPs as well.

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It's a bit of a shame they decided not to include "Dream". That track isn't even documented on PrinceVault - an early 90s ballad, with a linndrum. Amazing. But, it's not on here, along with a whole heap of other tracks they considered for the set.

They also didn't include the unreleased 12" of "Willing & Able".

Having said that, there's a good amount of decent content on here. Cream is an interesting version - a kind of lazy cocal with a compltely different mix. The extended D&P is also quite nice - from what I recall, it's a slightly different mix from the album.

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Landonfunkmonkey said:

So disc 6 and 7 are basically completely unnecessary/pretty much duplicates of what you get on disc 8. Actually slightly inferior since blu rays probably handle a higher bitrate than CD.

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WhisperingDandelions said:

So disc 7 and 8 are basically completely unnecessary/pretty much duplicates of what you get on disc 9. Actually slightly inferior since blu rays probably handle a higher bitrate than CD.

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There is no disc 9

lustmealways said:

I'll take it but there should be a lot more here and they should stop trying to fit it all on LP's

It's just a cheap way of making money. simple as that.

themanfromneptune said:

WhisperingDandelions said:

So disc 7 and 8 are basically completely unnecessary/pretty much duplicates of what you get on disc 9. Actually slightly inferior since blu rays probably handle a higher bitrate than CD.

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There is no disc 9

er, rather, 6 and 7 are duplicates of what disc 8 already contains with double the media components. Even worse.

It's basically a glorified 5 1/4 disc set.

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WhisperingDandelions said:

ShellyMcG said:

KlyphIsBackAgain said:

bluegangsta said:

It's a bit of a shame they decided not to include "Dream". That track isn't even documented on PrinceVault - an early 90s ballad, with a linndrum. Amazing. But, it's not on here, along with a whole heap of other tracks they considered for the set.

They also didn't include the unreleased 12" of "Willing & Able".

Having said that, there's a good amount of decent content on here. Cream is an interesting version - a kind of lazy cocal with a compltely different mix. The extended D&P is also quite nice - from what I recall, it's a slightly different mix from the album.

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The unreleased full versions for Gett Off and Insatiable (that were both on a previous config of the album before the single edit of Gett Off and the edited Insatiable were added, the lyrics to those are even in the booklet) are also missing.
no I Wonder, Player, Game Boys Groove, aletrnate version of Call the Law a full instrumental called Lactation. Maybe they still need to find these or these are left off for another project. Oh and the Instatiable suite, but that is said to have been unfinished/abandoned so that could be a reason not to release it.

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ShellyMcG said:

WhisperingDandelions said:

So disc 6 and 7 are basically completely unnecessary/pretty much duplicates of what you get on disc 8. Actually slightly inferior since blu rays probably handle a higher bitrate than CD.

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Probably unnecessary for most people but extremely useful for me. I like listening to live stuff in my car or on my earphones when I'm on the bus. I can't really do that with a DVD. I actually wish they had released the audio from the Welcome To America DVD on a CD.

Just rip the audio, it isn't that hard.

Nice. I'll take it.

JorisE73 said:

JorisE73 said:

KlyphIsBackAgain said:

JorisE73 said:

ShellyMcG said:

WhisperingDandelions said:

So disc 6 and 7 are basically completely unnecessary/pretty much duplicates of what you get on disc 8. Actually slightly inferior since blu rays probably handle a higher bitrate than CD.

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Probably unnecessary for most people but extremely useful for me. I like listening to live stuff in my car or on my earphones when I'm on the bus. I can't really do that with a DVD. I actually wish they had released the audio from the Welcome To America DVD on a CD.

Just rip the audio, it isn't that hard.

You overestimate the computer skills of the average person

JorisE73 said:

JorisE73 said:

bluegangsta said:

It's a bit of a shame they decided not to include "Dream". That track isn't even documented on PrinceVault - an early 90s ballad, with a linndrum. Amazing. But, it's not on here, along with a whole heap of other tracks they considered for the set.

They also didn't include the unreleased 12" of "Willing & Able".

Having said that, there's a good amount of decent content on here. Cream is an interesting version - a kind of lazy cocal with a compltely different mix. The extended D&P is also quite nice - from what I recall, it's a slightly different mix from the album.

[Edited 8/24/23 5:17am]

The unreleased full versions for Gett Off and Insatiable (that were both on a previous config of the album before the single edit of Gett Off and the edited Insatiable were added, the lyrics to those are even in the booklet) are also missing.

[Edited 8/24/23 5:47am]

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Are not the Gett Off (Damn Near 10 Min.) and Insatiable (Early Mix - Full Version)?

themanfromneptune said:

JorisE73 said:

The unreleased full versions for Gett Off and Insatiable (that were both on a previous config of the album before the single edit of Gett Off and the edited Insatiable were added, the lyrics to those are even in the booklet) are also missing.

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Are not the Gett Off (Damn Near 10 Min.) and Insatiable (Early Mix - Full Version)?

The original Gett Off for the album was a slightly longer version of the video version but shorter than the Purple Pump mix version (that one also isn't on there).
The birthday promo 12 inch mix is what we are getting and that one is a the early version of the track.
I expect the Instatiable version to be the one from 'Beginnings' and not the one from the earlier sequence.

JorisE73 said:

I expect the Instatiable version to be the one from 'Beginnings' and not the one from the earlier sequence.

It is. I've heard it.

WhenFansCry said:

JorisE73 said:

themanfromneptune said:

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Are not the Gett Off (Damn Near 10 Min.) and Insatiable (Early Mix - Full Version)?

The original Gett Off for the album was a slightly longer version of the video version but shorter than the Purple Pump mix version (that one also isn't on there).
The birthday promo 12 inch mix is what we are getting and that one is a the early version of the track.
I expect the Instatiable version to be the one from 'Beginnings' and not the one from the earlier sequence.

There were so many Gett Off remixes between the official releases and the promos. I guess I'm not surprised they didn't bother including all of them. At least one of the Cream remixes (Ethereal Mix) isn't there either.