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Reply #210 posted 08/22/23 6:14am

funkbabyandthe
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fredmagnus said:

lustmealways said:

you know what would be awesome. 3 discs of just prince/npg vault tracks and then the fourth vault disc is the "originals" of the era (non-frankenstein versions). that's the smart way to handle their inclusion.

I've been saying that for a long time...Originals included as a separate CD in the SDEs

BIG IDEA

i like it.

the originals idea was always too scattershot

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Reply #211 posted 08/22/23 6:15am

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lustmealways said:

you know what would be awesome. 3 discs of just prince/npg vault tracks and then the fourth vault disc is the "originals" of the era (non-frankenstein versions). that's the smart way to handle their inclusion.

<3

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Reply #212 posted 08/22/23 6:16am

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Reply #213 posted 08/22/23 6:27am

boomshaka

Honestly the last thing I ever wanted to hear was another take of Horny Pony and a 7 minute version of Schoolyard. That song is creepy and problematic af. I may be in the minority here, but unlike some people on this thread I'm okay with the estate leaving out some of the more out of pocket songs (Work that Fat, Schoolyard, Extra loveable, Lust U Always) to avoid problems in the public eye. I've already seen MANY posts on social media attempting to cancel him for his homophobia and grooming of Mayte. The man had issues but not everyone is able to see him for his music. I work in the arts so Prince is very sacred to a lot of dancers, but if something like Schoolyard gets publicity it's not going to look good. But hey at least we are getting new music 🥴
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Reply #214 posted 08/22/23 6:32am

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Honestly the last thing I ever wanted to hear was another take of Horny Pony and a 7 minute version of Schoolyard. That song is creepy and problematic af. I may be in the minority here, but unlike some people on this thread I'm okay with the estate leaving out some of the more out of pocket songs (Work that Fat, Schoolyard, Extra loveable, Lust U Always) to avoid problems in the public eye. I've already seen MANY posts on social media attempting to cancel him for his homophobia and grooming of Mayte. The man had issues but not everyone is able to see him for his music. I work in the arts so Prince is very sacred to a lot of dancers, but if something like Schoolyard gets publicity it's not going to look good. But hey at least we are getting new music 🥴

the year is 2023 and we're still deluding ourselves into thinking that anybody gives enough a shit about prince vault material to launch an effective and widespread cancelling campaign.

it's a non issue. it was a non issue with lust and extraloveable and it's a non issue with schoolyard... though the former were far more vile than schoolyard is

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Reply #215 posted 08/22/23 6:34am

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also if the version of horny pony on the box is the sparse and stripped down version, it absolutely fucking kicks the shit out of the overproduced mess released as a b side.

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Reply #216 posted 08/22/23 6:47am

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i'm having chatgpt write me a python script to scrape each ISRC between two specific values to see if i can find the rest. wish me luck.

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Reply #217 posted 08/22/23 6:51am

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Alice through the looking glass" is the new unreleased single it seems[15:43]Box set for the singles it seems & the Album ...not the Full Box set yet !it5t.jpg

1st visuals > Singles Box & Album !

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[Edited 8/22/23 6:52am]

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Reply #218 posted 08/22/23 7:06am

Nightcrawler

What do you think - will the SDE have a holografic sleeve? I sure hope so.

See the man with the blue guitar, maybe one day he`ll be a star...
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Reply #219 posted 08/22/23 7:25am

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^ I'd hope so, but probably not. Seems like an unnecessary production cost increase. We can but hope.

I understand the inclusion of a disc of B-sides and remixes, but who are the edits for? Who's listening to a song and saying "I like this, I just wish it was 25 seconds shorter"
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Reply #220 posted 08/22/23 7:29am

bozojones

Ndorphinmachina said:

^ I'd hope so, but probably not. Seems like an unnecessary production cost increase. We can but hope.

I understand the inclusion of a disc of B-sides and remixes, but who are the edits for? Who's listening to a song and saying "I like this, I just wish it was 25 seconds shorter"


Yeah, I never understood the point of all of those. I understand having a single edit for any album tracks that are significantly longer, but multiple short edits of the same song are completely unnecessary
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Reply #221 posted 08/22/23 7:30am

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themanfromneptune said:

lustmealways said:

how pipe dream to hope for

disc 1 - remaster
disc 2 - edits and remixes
disc 3 - vault 1
disc 4 - vault 2
disc 5 - vault 3
disc 6 - vault 4
disc 7 - live @ glam slam
blu ray - live video (somewhere) + extras?

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THE DREAM

disc 1 - remaster
disc 2 - edits and remixes
disc 3 - vault 1
disc 4 - vault 2
disc 5 - vault 3
disc 6 - vault 4
disc 7 - live @ glam slam
blu ray - live video (somewhere) + extras?

.

THE REALITY?

disc 1 - remaster
disc 2 - edits and remixes
disc 3 - vault 1
disc 4 - vault 2
disc 5 - vault 3
disc 6 - live
disc 7 - live
blu ray - live video (somewhere) + extras?

THE NIGHTMARE

disc 1 - remaster
disc 2 - edits and remixes
disc 3 - edits and remixes
disc 4 - vault 1
disc 5 - vault 2
disc 6 - live
disc 7 - live
blu ray - live video (somewhere) + extras?


With the CDs coming in at 7 but the vinyl only coming in at 12, I have a feeling 'THE NIGHMARE' list is more likely. I hope I'm wrong.

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Reply #222 posted 08/22/23 7:30am

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Ndorphinmachina said:

^ I'd hope so, but probably not. Seems like an unnecessary production cost increase. We can but hope.

I understand the inclusion of a disc of B-sides and remixes, but who are the edits for? Who's listening to a song and saying "I like this, I just wish it was 25 seconds shorter"


For the completists who have to collect every single version of a song that they can.
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Reply #223 posted 08/22/23 7:55am

Landonfunkmonk
ey

We can't be to far off now getting all the details.

I assume Alice Through The Looking Glass will be the first single.
[Edited 8/22/23 8:01am]
Something BIG Is Coming.
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Reply #224 posted 08/22/23 8:01am

themanfromnept
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SquirrelMeat said:


With the CDs coming in at 7 but the vinyl only coming in at 12, I have a feeling 'THE NIGHMARE' list is more likely. I hope I'm wrong.

.

Vinyl
.
Deluxe Edition (we have the photo):
.
1 Diamonds & Pearls remastered
2 Diamonds & Pearls remastered
3 Remix, b-side, et ceterae
4 Remix, b-side, et ceterae
.
Super Deluxe Edition?:
.
5 Vault
6 Vault
7 Vault
8 Vault
9 Live (or vault?)
10 Live (or vault?)
11 Live
12 Live

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Reply #225 posted 08/22/23 8:24am

bfunk

lustmealways said:

i'm having chatgpt write me a python script to scrape each ISRC between two specific values to see if i can find the rest. wish me luck.

ISRC is not necessarily sequential. Just look up SOTT Deluxe in that same database.

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Reply #226 posted 08/22/23 8:35am

MIRvmn1

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Landonfunkmonkey said:

We can't be to far off now getting all the details.

I assume Alice Through The Looking Glass will be the first single.
[Edited 8/22/23 8:01am]

I'm glad they chose a song we haven't heard before as the first single.
Apparently Horny Pony (Version 2) is the b-side.
[Edited 8/22/23 8:38am]
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Welcome 2 The Dawn
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Reply #227 posted 08/22/23 9:21am

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MIRvmn1 said:

Landonfunkmonkey said:
We can't be to far off now getting all the details. I assume Alice Through The Looking Glass will be the first single. [Edited 8/22/23 8:01am]
I'm glad they chose a song we haven't heard before as the first single. Apparently Horny Pony (Version 2) is the b-side. [Edited 8/22/23 8:38am]

That's promising but I'm hearing the glam show is not the blu ray? For me that was the most exciting aspect . So just the audio? Any one else hear this ?

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Reply #228 posted 08/22/23 9:22am

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themanfromneptune said:

SquirrelMeat said:


With the CDs coming in at 7 but the vinyl only coming in at 12, I have a feeling 'THE NIGHMARE' list is more likely. I hope I'm wrong.

.

Vinyl
.
Deluxe Edition (we have the photo):
.
1 Diamonds & Pearls remastered
2 Diamonds & Pearls remastered
3 Remix, b-side, et ceterae
4 Remix, b-side, et ceterae
.
Super Deluxe Edition?:
.
5 Vault
6 Vault
7 Vault
8 Vault
9 Live (or vault?)
10 Live (or vault?)
11 Live
12 Live

We know the DVD is the Glam Slam show, but I haven't seen confirmation that it's the same show for the live audio. If it is, the show was 115mins long. If it's not an edit, that's 2 CDs down. The album will obviously be a 3rd.

That leaves us 4 discs for remixes/bsides/edits and Vault material. I wasnt 3 discs of vault material, but if there is, the will be many remixes/edits left off.

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Reply #229 posted 08/22/23 9:25am

love2thenines2
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MIRvmn1 said:

Landonfunkmonkey said:
We can't be to far off now getting all the details. I assume Alice Through The Looking Glass will be the first single. [Edited 8/22/23 8:01am]
I'm glad they chose a song we haven't heard before as the first single. Apparently Horny Pony (Version 2) is the b-side. [Edited 8/22/23 8:38am]

And the song it seems was 1st sung in 2002 at the Celebration PP on June 22 by Sheila at the opening act .we have this on CD for the completist ah ah incredible ! thanx to Oldpaleridge to pointed it out thru this re-discovery !! biggrin

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Reply #230 posted 08/22/23 9:31am

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love2thenines2003 said:

And the song it seems was 1st sung in 2002 at the Celebration PP on June 22 by Sheila at the opening act .we have this on CD for the completist ah ah incredible ! thanx to Oldpaleridge to pointed it out thru this re-discovery !! biggrin

yes!! absolutely incredible track - like a mix of glam life and telepathy. if this is the same song due for release thursday then my excitement has gone up immeasurably.

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Reply #231 posted 08/22/23 9:54am

Landonfunkmonk
ey

lustmealways said:



love2thenines2003 said:


And the song it seems was 1st sung in 2002 at the Celebration PP on June 22 by Sheila at the opening act .we have this on CD for the completist ah ah incredible ! thanx to Oldpaleridge to pointed it out thru this re-discovery !! biggrin



yes!! absolutely incredible track - like a mix of glam life and telepathy. if this is the same song due for release thursday then my excitement has gone up immeasurably.




So it's not A Stevie Nicks cover?

I would prefer it to be a Prince penned song.

I found it. Nice. Looking forward to hearing the Prince version.
[Edited 8/22/23 10:10am]
Something BIG Is Coming.
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Reply #232 posted 08/22/23 10:09am

Farfunknugin

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SquirrelMeat said:

themanfromneptune said:

.

Vinyl
.
Deluxe Edition (we have the photo):
.
1 Diamonds & Pearls remastered
2 Diamonds & Pearls remastered
3 Remix, b-side, et ceterae
4 Remix, b-side, et ceterae
.
Super Deluxe Edition?:
.
5 Vault
6 Vault
7 Vault
8 Vault
9 Live (or vault?)
10 Live (or vault?)
11 Live
12 Live

We know the DVD is the Glam Slam show, but I haven't seen confirmation that it's the same show for the live audio. If it is, the show was 115mins long. If it's not an edit, that's 2 CDs down. The album will obviously be a 3rd.

That leaves us 4 discs for remixes/bsides/edits and Vault material. I wasnt 3 discs of vault material, but if there is, the will be many remixes/edits left off.

I thought the list that circulated had it as just audio

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Reply #233 posted 08/22/23 10:11am

funkbabyandthe
babysitters

that singles box looks quite nice.

and tbh, all the best songs on the album (except maybe walk dont walk) were released as singles so that might be the perfect version of the album cool

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Reply #234 posted 08/22/23 10:12am

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Farfunknugin said:

SquirrelMeat said:

We know the DVD is the Glam Slam show, but I haven't seen confirmation that it's the same show for the live audio. If it is, the show was 115mins long. If it's not an edit, that's 2 CDs down. The album will obviously be a 3rd.

That leaves us 4 discs for remixes/bsides/edits and Vault material. I wasnt 3 discs of vault material, but if there is, the will be many remixes/edits left off.

I thought the list that circulated had it as just audio

Ah, you might be right. I had it in my mind that the DVD was the Glam Slam show. I would prefer the DVD to be the full tour show. Earl's Court preferably!

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Reply #235 posted 08/22/23 10:36am

themanfromnept
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Landonfunkmonkey said:

I found it. Nice. Looking forward to hearing the Prince version. [Edited 8/22/23 10:10am]

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Yes, I hope Prince's version is less anonymous.

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Reply #236 posted 08/22/23 10:49am

Vannormal

boomshaka said:

Honestly the last thing I ever wanted to hear was another take of Horny Pony and a 7 minute version of Schoolyard. That song is creepy and problematic af. I may be in the minority here, but unlike some people on this thread I'm okay with the estate leaving out some of the more out of pocket songs (Work that Fat, Schoolyard, Extra loveable, Lust U Always) to avoid problems in the public eye. I've already seen MANY posts on social media attempting to cancel him for his homophobia and grooming of Mayte. The man had issues but not everyone is able to see him for his music. I work in the arts so Prince is very sacred to a lot of dancers, but if something like Schoolyard gets publicity it's not going to look good. But hey at least we are getting new music 🥴

I'm a absolutely not OK with that kind of thinking.

You don't try to avoid some obscure Prince music for haters, no you better confront everyone with it.

All of Prince's music deserves to be heard and be out there available, so people can study it.

It's freedom of art. (Possibly, The Estate can decide different for the sake of money... as always).

If extreme right ideas are allowed because based on freedom of speech, why not Prince's whole oevre accessible for all.

What people think is hard to change, better don't give it any attention when it's negative.

But (partly) true, Prince was aparently (only briefly) homophobic when jw came in his life, but left that publicly behind when he invited both W&L for a TV show appearance.

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #237 posted 08/22/23 11:04am

funkbabyandthe
babysitters

the word problematic is overused and allowed to be used without retort.

prince already IS problematic.

this is an artist who wrote a song about incest earlier in his career, another about trying to convert a lesbian to heterosexuality, and ended one song where every sexual thrust was a punishment for some crime or another (this one is both funny and yes, problematic, but also one of the most audacious endings to any song ever lol). he used the word fag on one outtake already so i think

schoolyard will be no real biggie.

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Reply #238 posted 08/22/23 11:11am

motherfunka

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dodger07 said:

motherfunka said:

Just rumor, but I heard the Jan 27, 1992 show from Paisley Park would be the live audio show, with the Glam Slam show being the video.

That would an interesting choice with it being a very short show, by looks of it on PVault


The set list was similar to the Glam Slam show. PVault just doesn't have all the songs listed.

TRUE BLUE
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Reply #239 posted 08/22/23 11:12am

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SquirrelMeat said:

Farfunknugin said:

I thought the list that circulated had it as just audio

Ah, you might be right. I had it in my mind that the DVD was the Glam Slam show. I would prefer the DVD to be the full tour show. Earl's Court preferably!


Paisley Park has shown the full Earl's Court show from June 15, so it's quite possible that that is the DVD. I'm hoping for the Glam Slam show on video, it's excellent. Sounds like we'll be getting the Glam Slam show either audio or video for sure.

TRUE BLUE
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