WhisperingDandelions said:

TrivialPursuit said:

LOL y'all can have it. Less fuss from me trying to get a listen in.

What fuss, you admitted you hate 2000-2009 in that other thread.

I also listed 20Ten was one of my three choices from the decade, because most everything else blows monkey balls.

TrivialPursuit said:

WhisperingDandelions said:

What fuss, you admitted you hate 2000-2009 in that other thread.

I also listed 20Ten was one of my three choices from the decade, because most everything else blows monkey balls.

... that's what I just said.

You hated 2000-2009 so much you tried to rationalize crowbarring in an album that doesn't even meet the criteria into the conversation.

I will be stealing that gimmick for the next 90s thread when I try and justify the inclusion of The Rainbow Children as his best 90s album because "he started recording it in 2000 and 2000 is like mere months shy of 1999, so..., plus the 90s sucks. I only recognize TRC as the best 90s release," just FYI.

WhisperingDandelions said:

JorisE73 said:

whoah, sensitive much?

Where in any portion or segment of my one-sentence post, quoted right above you, did I make any assumptions, aspersions or denegrations of non-Elixer fan's intellect or called them "idiots"? At any point in my post. Feel free to bold and/or underline the offending segments.

None? k, because last I checked, all my post did was accuse you and the others who castigate Elixer and Bria Valente regularly of never having actually putting on the album, or maybe doing it once for five-minutes of track skips&scans back in 2009. To the extent you can't even name or describe one track, you launched right into deflect mode.

And all you did was confirm my analysis by not addressing one iota of my observation about you Elixer denegrators, songs "Prince gave away" denegrators, heck, you could even remove Bria from the equation and apply my post to when one the org generally hate son "Take Me with U" because "APPOLONIA CAN'T SING!!!1"


Admit it. You and the other Bria haters can't describe one aspect of what you hate so much about Elixir because even you don't get what you dislike so much about it other than it exists and other than it doesn't feature your precious pop star Prince on lead vocals, because of out of his myriad and multitude of talents, somehow, someway, the majority of you only care about him pop star singing first and foremost. You're the "famz" manifestation of those corporate Come reviews that don't describe a single song, just reword "it sucked" 9 different ways over a paragraph and call it a review.

That has nothing to do with being an "idiot," it has everything to do with you clearly not even caring to know a single track off an album your supposed-favorite artist cared enough about to force you all to purchase it in a bundle with 2 other records you actually wanted. You hate it, we get that, apparently the specific "why" will remain shrouded in mystery....

LILpoundCAKE said:

Again, if this was another album with all prince vocals it would rank decently for most
people I think.

Bingo. LILpoundCAKE with the fade-away jumper!

[Edited 8/19/23 16:34pm]

I was just saying in other words that anyone can like anything, no biggie and I'm to old to care about your millennial 'everyone is offended by me because I have a different opinion' idea, you didn't offend me and I also wasn't offended. So no need to make some weird asumptions and go all ranty millennial on us. people like different stuff, it's all good.

WhisperingDandelions said:

Ndorphinmachina said:

WhisperingDandelions said:

As mentioned on page 1, he tried to pull this album like he did The Black Album but The Daily Mail wouldn't let him.

He offered to give them a different album.

[Edited 8/19/23 16:33pm]

The person I was replying to said 20ten wasn't finished how he wanted it. James Harley (engineer) doesn't say anything like that. 20ten was the album he set out to, and subsequently did make. Having a last minute change of heart doesn't change that.

That 20TEN Deluxe was probably more like what Rave In2 the joy Fantastic was to Rave Un2..

JorisE73 said:

WhisperingDandelions said:

I was just saying in other words that anyone can like anything, no biggie and I'm to old to care about your millennial 'everyone is offended by me because I have a different opinion' idea, you didn't offend me and I also wasn't offended. So no need to make some weird asumptions and go all ranty millennial on us. people like different stuff, it's all good.

eh maybe you weren't offended, but I do get offended when people insinuate I'm making intellectual slights or "you're stupid" denegrations. Grandstanding purple prose aside, it's just not my bag, baby.

My least favorite aspect of the internet is when people try to make arguments or debates a "smart" vs. "stupid" thing, always has been, and I've always avoided that kind of angle because the great magnet of irony inevitably causes the person who is castigating to make a typo or blatant grammatical error mere seconds after calling the other stoopid.

Technically I'm gen-Y but that often gets lumped with millenial so maybe you're on point. See, now that doesn't offend me. (Although technically by the time I replied to you like 2 other posters were praising Elixer so that "everyone is offended by me because I have a different opinion" angle you're trying to go with doesn't really make sense, because my opinion isn't at all unique in the context of this thread)

[Edited 8/20/23 4:31am]

Ndorphinmachina said:

WhisperingDandelions said:

As mentioned on page 1, he tried to pull this album like he did The Black Album but The Daily Mail wouldn't let him.

He offered to give them a different album.

[Edited 8/19/23 16:33pm]

The person I was replying to said 20ten wasn't finished how he wanted it. James Harley (engineer) doesn't say anything like that. 20ten was the album he set out to, and subsequently did make. Having a last minute change of heart doesn't change that.

I focused on your sentence "I find it hard to believe he'd release something he wasn't happy with," because according the circumstances around the release show Prince did exactly that.

WhisperingDandelions said:

Ndorphinmachina said:

WhisperingDandelions said:

I focused on your sentence "I find it hard to believe he'd release something he wasn't happy with," because according the circumstances around the release show Prince did exactly that.

It's the album he gave to the Newspaper. He was happy enough to submit it. As for why he wanted to pull it at the last minute, does anyone know? Are their any facts? Or just speculation?

could be several things.

he might have changed his mind on one of the songs, wanting to keep it for another project.

he might have decided to add another song to it.

he might have considered releasing it through a label at the last minute, wanting to pull the
free release.

knowing prince's mode of operation at this time it was more likely to be due to something to
do with money, rights or further distribution than it was to be about the songs on the album.

there was zero things stopping him from releasing 20Ten deluxe on his own website for those
outside of europe if he felt like the album needed updating or should be better with different
songs or different version of the songs included.

he shopped that project to warners but when nothing came of those talks he just walked away
from the project. the only thing 20Ten that continued was the tour with only very select few
performances of any of the songs on the album.

LILpoundCAKE said:

Ndorphinmachina said:

WhisperingDandelions said: It's the album he gave to the Newspaper. He was happy enough to submit it. As for why he wanted to pull it at the last minute, does anyone know? Are their any facts? Or just speculation?

could be several things.

he might have changed his mind on one of the songs, wanting to keep it for another project.

he might have decided to add another song to it.

he might have considered releasing it through a label at the last minute, wanting to pull the
free release.

knowing prince's mode of operation at this time it was more likely to be due to something to
do with money, rights or further distribution than it was to be about the songs on the album.

there was zero things stopping him from releasing 20Ten deluxe on his own website for those
outside of europe if he felt like the album needed updating or should be better with different
songs or different version of the songs included.

he shopped that project to warners but when nothing came of those talks he just walked away
from the project. the only thing 20Ten that continued was the tour with only very select few
performances of any of the songs on the album.

Back then I heard he only wanted it pulled as a retail release in favor of a Deluxe edition for retail (which he did I guess because it never reached retail) not the newspaper release.

WhisperingDandelions said:

JorisE73 said:

I was just saying in other words that anyone can like anything, no biggie and I'm to old to care about your millennial 'everyone is offended by me because I have a different opinion' idea, you didn't offend me and I also wasn't offended. So no need to make some weird asumptions and go all ranty millennial on us. people like different stuff, it's all good.

eh maybe you weren't offended, but I do get offended when people insinuate I'm making intellectual slights or "you're stupid" denegrations. Grandstanding purple prose aside, it's just not my bag, baby.

My least favorite aspect of the internet is when people try to make arguments or debates a "smart" vs. "stupid" thing, always has been, and I've always avoided that kind of angle because the great magnet of irony inevitably causes the person who is castigating to make a typo or blatant grammatical error mere seconds after calling the other stoopid.

Technically I'm gen-Y but that often gets lumped with millenial so maybe you're on point. See, now that doesn't offend me. (Although technically by the time I replied to you like 2 other posters were praising Elixer so that "everyone is offended by me because I have a different opinion" angle you're trying to go with doesn't really make sense, because my opinion isn't at all unique in the context of this thread)

[Edited 8/20/23 4:31am]

Well your weird rant and assumption about coasters or whatever reads like you lump everyone who dosn't like the album as some idiot who does what you ranted about. But no biggie, in the end no one cares.
Gen Y = Millennial

[Edited 8/20/23 6:17am]

LILpoundCAKE said:

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

Funny that prince at this stage would take the money from that xenophobic newspaper But money talks i suppose

He didn't. It had nothing to do with the Daily Mail. The Mail group was for Planet Earth.
As mentioned correctly elsewhere, the UK deal for 20Ten was with the Mirror and the Record.

[Edited 8/20/23 9:46am]

I never got into it, which is very rare for a Prince album. I think its his 2nd worst, just above Welcome 2 America.

I never cared for it but I noticed a lot of hardcore Prince fans in their 30's really like that era

claudemorton said:

Over produced, too many yes-men & women around him, or limited input from others or too much, something went wrong. I always have it tied with "Planet Earth" as the worst albums, but Lavaux is fun and I would love to have the rumored 17 minute version. Future Soul Song is killer with the harmonies, absolutely beautiful. And if you chop off the first minute or two of Sticky Like Glue it is fantastic, and live it was always fun to hear.

I LOVE Sticky Like Glue!!!!