RJOrion said:

boomshaka said:

Like most of the 'bad' albums, you can still pick 2 or 3 songs off it that float your boat. I can live without the pointless self-refrencing that borders on cringey on the first 2 tracks, but it works on Lavaux, even if it is somewhat anodyne. Sticky Like Glue is a lot of fun and sounds effortless, only I don't think it was since it's not too far removed from similar things like Breakfast Can Wait which is still cool but SLG is a lot hookier, so he tried ths a few times to varying degrees of success. For me Walk In The Sand is the jewel here, like a missing track from Emancipation disc 2.

I certainly don't think it's his worst album, there's a handful others that are ahead of the queue on that front for me.

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onlyforaminute said:

Add the drama of actually getting the album...

What drama?

For those not in countries where it was released, there was literally a flood of them available online, ebay, amazon etc.

honestly most of the albums from the last 14/15 years could qualifiy as the the worst of his albums...

but still, most have a few gems on them somehow.

boomshaka said:

His assistant Ruth said on twitter that he was going through a lot physically at the time (pain, migraines etc)

JorisE73 said:

I rank 20TEN the same as MPLSound, both kinda free albums: one with a newspaper and the other bundeled with the horrible Elixer and great Lotus Flower.
To think he charged people for his by far worst albums Art Official Age and Hit N Run Phase 1.

Do any of you who cast Elixer as 'horrible' ever even play the record in full or did you designate a coaster before you finished taking the shrinkwrap off because it committed the unforgiveable sin of featuring another vocalist over songs written/produced/arranged/performed by Prince?

RJOrion said:

Elixer is a fairly good album

....said no one.

WhisperingDandelions said:

JorisE73 said:

I rank 20TEN the same as MPLSound, both kinda free albums: one with a newspaper and the other bundeled with the horrible Elixer and great Lotus Flower.
To think he charged people for his by far worst albums Art Official Age and Hit N Run Phase 1.

Do any of you who cast Elixer as 'horrible' ever even play the record in full or did you designate a coaster before you finished taking the shrinkwrap off because it committed the unforgiveable sin of featuring another vocalist over songs written/produced/arranged/performed by Prince?

Just because you like the album and other people don't doesn't make them idiots.
You like it? Good for you, I and othrs don't like it, no problem is it?

RJOrion said:

RJOrion said:

Elixer is a fairly good album

I like Elixir a lot. If it had prince on lead vox for all the songs it would probably rank
pretty high in my top 10 of Post TRC albums.

All This Love / Another Boy / Here I Come / Something U Already Know / Kept Woman /
Immersion.

Heck even 2Nite and Home are nice tracks. As is Everytime and Elixir.

For me there isn't a clunker on this album. It's solid all the way through.

Again, if this was another album with all prince vocals it would rank decently for most
people I think.

TrivialPursuit said:

RJOrion said:

Elixer is a fairly good album

....said no one.

Sorry, grandma!

I'm with RJ on this!

You all know that there was a 2013 release of "Laydown Xtended", yes?

paisleyparkgirl said:

His assistant Ruth said on twitter that he was going through a lot physically at the time (pain, migraines etc)

I was coming to say this, she came out recently and said that people are heavily shitting on this album in a period where he didn't finish the album how he wanted, was in a heavy amount of pain. The fact we even got the record with the issues he had is good enough, the album isn't that bad, Ruth stated that the versions she heard him working on were great.

newpwrsoul said:

paisleyparkgirl said:

His assistant Ruth said on twitter that he was going through a lot physically at the time (pain, migraines etc)

I was coming to say this, she came out recently and said that people are heavily shitting on this album in a period where he didn't finish the album how he wanted, was in a heavy amount of pain. The fact we even got the record with the issues he had is good enough, the album isn't that bad, Ruth stated that the versions she heard him working on were great.

I didn't know about that. That's making me feel sad

homesquid said:

I'm not alone in thinking this is the absolute worst Prince album. It's excruciatingly mediocre, hookless and boring. Not one song would make it even on a 6 cd box set of Prince's best. In some ways I actually feel bad about it. I'm from the classic Prince era 1979-1990 and the production choices he made for 20ten were a clear attempt to record an album with a very similar intentionally dated sound. I believe he was trying to relive HIS heyday just one time. This should be the album for me. But I can't even listen to any one song let alone the album all the way through. What went wrong? Obviously it's the songs themselves. They sound like polished demos. I mean stack any of these curs to say a 1999 outtake like "Purple Music". Thanks for trying though, Prince.

UPDATE: Well I forced myself to listen to 20ten three times...I'm glad I did. It grew on me.

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UPDATE: Well I forced myself to listen to 20ten three times...I'm glad I did. It grew on me.

homesquid said:

homesquid said:

I'm not alone in thinking this is the absolute worst Prince album. It's excruciatingly mediocre, hookless and boring. Not one song would make it even on a 6 cd box set of Prince's best. In some ways I actually feel bad about it. I'm from the classic Prince era 1979-1990 and the production choices he made for 20ten were a clear attempt to record an album with a very similar intentionally dated sound. I believe he was trying to relive HIS heyday just one time. This should be the album for me. But I can't even listen to any one song let alone the album all the way through. What went wrong? Obviously it's the songs themselves. They sound like polished demos. I mean stack any of these curs to say a 1999 outtake like "Purple Music". Thanks for trying though, Prince.

UPDATE: Well I forced myself to listen to 20ten three times...I'm glad I did. It grew on me.

[Edited 8/19/23 13:40pm]

UPDATE: Well I forced myself to listen to 20ten three times...I'm glad I did. It grew on me.

Don't be weak, for the most part it's throwaway forgettable rubbish, and you know it

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newpwrsoul said:

mb71 said:

homesquid said:

UPDATE: Well I forced myself to listen to 20ten three times...I'm glad I did. It grew on me.

Don't be weak, for the most part it's throwaway forgettable rubbish, and you know it

[Edited 8/19/23 13:53pm]

nayroo2002 said:

TrivialPursuit said:

....said no one.

Sorry, grandma!

I'm with RJ on this!

LOL y'all can have it. Less fuss from me trying to get a listen in.

JorisE73 said:

WhisperingDandelions said:

Do any of you who cast Elixer as 'horrible' ever even play the record in full or did you designate a coaster before you finished taking the shrinkwrap off because it committed the unforgiveable sin of featuring another vocalist over songs written/produced/arranged/performed by Prince?

Just because you like the album and other people don't doesn't make them idiots.
You like it? Good for you, I and othrs don't like it, no problem is it?

whoah, sensitive much?

Where in any portion or segment of my one-sentence post, quoted right above you, did I make any assumptions, aspersions or denegrations of non-Elixer fan's intellect or called them "idiots"? At any point in my post. Feel free to bold and/or underline the offending segments.

None? k, because last I checked, all my post did was accuse you and the others who castigate Elixer and Bria Valente regularly of never having actually putting on the album, or maybe doing it once for five-minutes of track skips&scans back in 2009. To the extent you can't even name or describe one track, you launched right into deflect mode.

And all you did was confirm my analysis by not addressing one iota of my observation about you Elixer denegrators, songs "Prince gave away" denegrators, heck, you could even remove Bria from the equation and apply my post to when one the org generally hate son "Take Me with U" because "APPOLONIA CAN'T SING!!!1"


Admit it. You and the other Bria haters can't describe one aspect of what you hate so much about Elixir because even you don't get what you dislike so much about it other than it exists and other than it doesn't feature your precious pop star Prince on lead vocals, because of out of his myriad and multitude of talents, somehow, someway, the majority of you only care about him pop star singing first and foremost. You're the "famz" manifestation of those corporate Come reviews that don't describe a single song, just reword "it sucked" 9 different ways over a paragraph and call it a review.

That has nothing to do with being an "idiot," it has everything to do with you clearly not even caring to know a single track off an album your supposed-favorite artist cared enough about to force you all to purchase it in a bundle with 2 other records you actually wanted. You hate it, we get that, apparently the specific "why" will remain shrouded in mystery....

LILpoundCAKE said:

Again, if this was another album with all prince vocals it would rank decently for most
people I think.

Bingo. LILpoundCAKE with the fade-away jumper!

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TrivialPursuit said:

nayroo2002 said:

Sorry, grandma!

I'm with RJ on this!

LOL y'all can have it. Less fuss from me trying to get a listen in.

What fuss, you admitted you hate 2000-2009 in that other thread.

Ndorphinmachina said:

newpwrsoul said:

I was coming to say this, she came out recently and said that people are heavily shitting on this album in a period where he didn't finish the album how he wanted, was in a heavy amount of pain. The fact we even got the record with the issues he had is good enough, the album isn't that bad, Ruth stated that the versions she heard him working on were great.

I've heard about him being in pain at the time. However regarding him not finishing the album how he wanted. That's at odds with the what James Harley said during the Peach & Black podcast. At any given point. Prince had several albums ready to go. I find it hard to believe he'd release something he wasn't happy with, rather than pulling something from the vault.

As mentioned on page 1, he tried to pull this album like he did The Black Album but The Daily Mail wouldn't let him.

He offered to give them a different album.

[Edited 8/19/23 16:33pm]

homesquid said:

UPDATE: Well I forced myself to listen to 20ten three times...I'm glad I did. It grew on me.

"Sticky Like Glue" grew on me but it's still his worst album.

Even though the song is "good" is still crystallizes all the blatant 1984 throwback pastiche reasons I don't like the album. The hook is veryy throwback. Verry 70s-lifted-as-80s-inspiration. That track could've been a sleeper radio hit if it came out in 1983. That's why it's affirmatively a silly/phoned-in album encapsulated in one actually great track.

Prince doing Prince impressions. All a fair amount of the fanbase really wanted all along... So many years on all these diverse projects, when somehow his legacy would be even better if he just cranked out Purple Rain II, III, IV... In an alternate universe 20Ten could have been Purple Rain LVIII in yet another volume of the set and the world would have been unified under the universally recognized "King of Pop" Prince Rogers Nelson.

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