Reply #30 posted 07/13/23 4:29pm
IanRG
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funkbabyandthebabysitters said:
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"There is no such comment by Prince about Oasis. No one else has seen this link and the imagined link is never repeated in the ears of those who think they hear it."
who cares whether prince made a comment on it or not. i certainly dont. there are many things he never commented on. doesnt mean they dont hold water. once you accept this fact, your life as a prince fan will be improved
honestly, all i read when i see your posts is (warning! personal attacks forthcoming!) a lot of excessive anal retentiveness, petty grievances, and general butt hurtedness.
i suggest you promptly purchase some hemorrhoid cream.
You are now just posting because you don't know when to stop.
Nobody cares whether Prince made a comment on it or not - That is not what I said. I addressed this in the post 5 posts above this. Please note: You left the highlighted section where I showed that you are making shit up that I did not say. You should think before you post.
My life as a Prince fan is fine because I don't need to imagine things that don't make any sense, I can just enjoy his music completely and thoroughly Oasis-free.
My bowels are fine, thanks.
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Reply #32 posted 07/14/23 8:55am
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C'mon, u no that Prince wasn't (and possibly would never have been) into a band like Oasis... Too too bland, too generic and too Britpop to be considered as a possible serious inspiration.
Really different leagues. [Edited 7/14/23 9:36am]
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Reply #34 posted 07/14/23 9:35am
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RayBuster said: Also, I bet Prince was on Team Blur Yes! Me 2! |
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Reply #35 posted 07/14/23 2:22pm
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NoSwan said:
RayBuster said:
Also, I bet Prince was on Team Blur
Yes! Me 2!
This makes much more sense. Daman Albarn is always experimenting with different sounds (kind of like Prince) vs the Gallaghers - big on boasts but really just two brothers much more interested in sibling rivalry and fame.
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Reply #36 posted 07/15/23 2:12am
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NoSwan said:
C'mon, u no that Prince wasn't (and possibly would never have been) into a band like Oasis... Too too bland, too generic and too Britpop to be considered as a possible serious inspiration. Really different leagues. [Edited 7/14/23 9:36am]
you think prince only liked 'progressive' or 'innovative' music/musicians? come on now. i like the foo fighters for example, but they are hardly treated 'seriously' in the way nirvana were. also, i must have overlooked the great experimentation taking place on songs like jughead, push, sexy mf (to name just a few!)
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Reply #37 posted 07/15/23 3:50am
IanRG
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funkbabyandthebabysitters said:
NoSwan said:
C'mon, u no that Prince wasn't (and possibly would never have been) into a band like Oasis... Too too bland, too generic and too Britpop to be considered as a possible serious inspiration. Really different leagues. [Edited 7/14/23 9:36am]
you think prince only liked 'progressive' or 'innovative' music/musicians? come on now. i like the foo fighters for example, but they are hardly treated 'seriously' in the way nirvana were. also, i must have overlooked the great experimentation taking place on songs like jughead, push, sexy mf (to name just a few!)
It is not about what you want to believe Prince liked.
It is about whether Oasis could in any way, shape or form inspire Prince (or anyone but some mid 1990s British schoolboys.)
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Reply #38 posted 07/15/23 4:26am
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british schoolboys? lol. you must not know oasis' background.
i am not even a big oasis fan, but they were unavoidable at one point which is why its easy to know the hallmarks of their sound.
It is not about what you want to believe Prince liked.
on the contrary, its about why you refuse to believe prince might take influence from what you deem to be beneath him, just because YOU dont like it.
when prince was a guy who liked everything, from cheese to artsy stuff.
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Reply #39 posted 07/15/23 4:30am
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actually you just made me remember the lyrics to gold. which thanks to its beatles-y sound, actually shares something in common with noel gallagher. in fact, the lyrics are really quite noel/oasis... |
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Reply #40 posted 07/15/23 4:36am
IanRG
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funkbabyandthebabysitters said:
british schoolboys? lol. you must not know oasis' background.
i am not even a big oasis fan, but they were unavoidable at one point which is why its easy to know the hallmarks of their sound.
It is not about what you want to believe Prince liked.
on the contrary, its about why you refuse to believe prince might take influence from what you deem to be beneath him, just because YOU dont like it.
when prince was a guy who liked everything, from cheese to artsy stuff.
And yet Prince was clearly NOT influenced by Oasis, no matter how obsessed you are with wanting to believe it.
The only thing you got right is that, just as what you want believe despite the evidence has no impact on Prince's music, what you want to think I believe despite the evidence also has zero impact on Prince's music.
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Reply #41 posted 07/15/23 4:44am
IanRG
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funkbabyandthebabysitters said:
actually you just made me remember the lyrics to gold. which thanks to its beatles-y sound, actually shares something in common with noel gallagher. in fact, the lyrics are really quite noel/oasis...
If you are going to say something just for effect, at least try to make it believable.
Gold was recorded in October 1993. Oasis' first debut on the US charts was February 1995.
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Reply #42 posted 07/15/23 5:21am
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His delivery on Mad Sex always reminded me of Liam Gallagher. |
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Reply #43 posted 07/15/23 5:51am
IanRG
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MattyJam said:
His delivery on Mad Sex always reminded me of Liam Gallagher.
The mind is a funny thing
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Reply #44 posted 07/15/23 6:00am
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IanRG said:
funkbabyandthebabysitters said:
actually you just made me remember the lyrics to gold. which thanks to its beatles-y sound, actually shares something in common with noel gallagher. in fact, the lyrics are really quite noel/oasis...
If you are going to say something just for effect, at least try to make it believable.
Gold was recorded in October 1993. Oasis' first debut on the US charts was February 1995.
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again, you seem to have comprehension problems.
i wrote:
actually you just made me remember the lyrics to gold. which thanks to its beatles-y sound, actually shares something in common with noel gallagher. in fact, the lyrics are really quite noel/oasis...
i didnt say 'gold was written after prince devoured definitely maybe.'
i wrote it shares something in common with noel gallagher, because you were acting like there is nothing prince would have in common with a peasant like noel.
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Reply #45 posted 07/15/23 6:11am
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funkbabyandthebabysitters said:
IanRG said:
again, you seem to have comprehension problems.
i wrote:
actually you just made me remember the lyrics to gold. which thanks to its beatles-y sound, actually shares something in common with noel gallagher. in fact, the lyrics are really quite noel/oasis...
i didnt say 'gold was written after prince devoured definitely maybe.'
i wrote it shares something in common with noel gallagher, because you were acting like there is nothing prince would have in common with a peasant like noel.
I know what you said as do you. You were seeking to imply some link between the two and concluded with concluded with "in fact, the lyrics are really quite noel/oasis". Had you not made the error in timing you would have understood that Noel, a known Prince fan, was influenced by Prince, not the other way round.
You keep on making up shit that I never said - I never said Noel was a peasant - Just not a good musician and obviously not an influence on Prince. This is based on the wide divide between the sound and quality of their music.
PS, Outside of your imagination, there is no indication that Prince devoured anything from Oasis
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Reply #46 posted 07/15/23 6:18am
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IanRG said:
MattyJam said:
His delivery on Mad Sex always reminded me of Liam Gallagher.
The mind is a funny thing
Prince publicly said. "I allowed other sounds made by other individual. Mad Sex is a creation of Kirk’s. I let that dictate how I wrote and arranged it".
Perhaps what you are hearing is that Kirk and Laim were both influenced by Prince but are individuals and there is soething you are hearing in how Prince helped Kirk arranged it and how Liam may have been influenced by Prince.
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Reply #47 posted 07/15/23 6:19am
Reply #48 posted 07/15/23 6:20am
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funkbabyandthebabysitters said: you really are a snoozer. RG = Redundant Gibberish |
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Reply #49 posted 07/15/23 6:24am
IanRG
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RJOrion said:
funkbabyandthebabysitters said:
you really are a snoozer.
RG = Redundant Gibberish
If you cannot add anything to a thread, don't bother replying
You are destroying what little integrity you have left because you have already stated that you don't believe funkbabyandthebabysitter's thesis. You just enjoy seeking to be a cyberbully - It is good that you are simply no good at it.
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Reply #50 posted 07/15/23 6:25am
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funkbabyandthebabysitters said:
you really are a snoozer.
And once more when you cannot address facts, you retreat to personal attacks.
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Reply #51 posted 07/15/23 6:29am
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the thing is, you insist you are a man of facts, like you are some sort of NPG music rights lawyer, but you have no facts to support either argument, i.e. its just my opinion vs yours. there is nothing to support anything you say objectively, just your humourless posting. i at least attempted to give you something in the way of analysis, but you just ignored it. i will post it again, for your benefit.
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listen to the way each line in the verse ends melodically, the added emphasis on each last word of each line, the length of the last note in each line of the verses, as well as a kind of whininess in the melody as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HqpFoHv6qg
now, consider how something similiar happens in white mansion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Us55oK1YgS8
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Reply #52 posted 07/15/23 6:37am
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IanRG said:
RJOrion said: funkbabyandthebabysitters said:
you really are a snoozer.
RG = Redundant Gibberish
If you cannot add anything to a thread, don't bother replying
You are destroying what little integrity you have left because you have already stated that you don't believe funkbabyandthebabysitter's thesis. You just enjoy seeking to be a cyberbully - It is good that you are simply no good at it.
[Edited 7/15/23 6:25am] I dont think P was influenced by Oasis, so we agree on that premise only...but i COMPLETELY agree with what Funkybaby said in regards to your ORG input, as i have told you before about your propensity to be anal retentive and your incessantly long winded blabberings...with that said, carry on |
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Reply #53 posted 07/15/23 6:48am
Reply #54 posted 07/15/23 6:53am
IanRG
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funkbabyandthebabysitters said:
the thing is, you insist you are a man of facts, like you are some sort of NPG music rights lawyer, but you have no facts to support either argument, i.e. its just my opinion vs yours. there is nothing to support anything you say objectively, just your humourless posting. i at least attempted to give you something in the way of analysis, but you just ignored it. i will post it again, for your benefit. (unnecessary and already disputed repeats deleted)
Again you are making up shit that I never said. Nothing I said was about rights. This discussion has never been about whether Noel could claim Prince copied him.
The facts that you have been unable to address are that you were found out as clearly wrong about Gold lyrics being really quite noel/oasis like. Gold was recorded long before Prince could have heard them. Besides, there is no similarity in lyrics exceot they are in English. Not only does Gold precede any Oasis garbage, but Gold draws on themes in Prince's work from several songs over the many years prior to Oasis releasing anything.
The other fact you could address is your unsubstantiated claim that Prince "devoured" Oasis' music. It is a simple fact that there is no factual evidence of this.
I had already listened to these songs when you made the spurious claim - You already admitted when no one else could hear the imagined similarity that the style, notes, chords etc are distinctly different. The vocal tones and effects are different. All you can point to is the length of the some last notes in the lines - which are also not the same. You admitted in post #17 that the similarity is not apparent. going over it again is not going to convince anyone.
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Reply #55 posted 07/15/23 6:56am
IanRG
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funkbabyandthebabysitters said:
RG = repetitive grandstanding
Do you really want to be like RJOrion just because people don't just agree with another of your opinions posed as questions but questions that you can't handle being answered in the negative?
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Reply #56 posted 07/15/23 6:57am
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funkbabyandthebabysitters said:
NoSwan said: C'mon, u no that Prince wasn't (and possibly would never have been) into a band like Oasis... Too too bland, too generic and too Britpop to be considered as a possible serious inspiration. Really different leagues. [Edited 7/14/23 9:36am]
you think prince only liked 'progressive' or 'innovative' music/musicians? come on now. i like the foo fighters for example, but they are hardly treated 'seriously' in the way nirvana were. also, i must have overlooked the great experimentation taking place on songs like jughead, push, sexy mf (to name just a few!) Have I ever said that? I just don't think that Oasis sounds like anything interesting to Prince, neither for style, attitude nor delivery. In fact, Gallagher brothers' band musical concept was heavily derivative (Stone Roses and Beatles in first place). |
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Reply #57 posted 07/15/23 7:04am
Reply #58 posted 07/15/23 7:09am
IanRG
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RJOrion said:
IanRG said:
If you cannot add anything to a thread, don't bother replying
You are destroying what little integrity you have left because you have already stated that you don't believe funkbabyandthebabysitter's thesis. You just enjoy seeking to be a cyberbully - It is good that you are simply no good at it.
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I dont think P was influenced by Oasis, so we agree on that premise only...but i COMPLETELY agree with what Funkybaby said in regards to your ORG input, as i have told you before about your propensity to be anal retentive and your incessantly long winded blabberings...with that said, carry on
If you cannot add anything to a thread, don't bother replying.
This thread would have been over long ago except funkybabyandthebabysitters cannot accept that we don't agree to the point of their thread. What you told me was that I should backdown and just go away when LoveGalore used online sexual abuse tactics to shut people up who disagreed with him. You also tried to make a point about some of my posts being longer than 2 paragraphs - whilst never making the same point about other even longer posts. Last I checked you are not the Org's keeper of morals and post lengths.
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Reply #59 posted 07/15/23 7:14am
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IanRG said:
funkbabyandthebabysitters said:
RG = repetitive grandstanding
Do you really want to be like RJOrion just because people don't just agree with another of your opinions posed as questions but questions that you can't handle being answered in the negative?
jeez, i cant win.
if i argue my corner, you tell me i cant handle being answered in the negative
if i dont, then youtell me im 'retreating' |
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