lurker316 said:

LILpoundCAKE said:

this thread has me listening to this album again and I love it all over again.

yes, some of it is very ott, but hey, it's part of the fun for me.

enjoying the heck out of the title track in all it's 7 minute glittery kitsch

The title track is my least favorite on it. The music is a bit derivative and contrived. And, as I mentioned earlier in this thread, the lyrics are trite. He strung together a series of empty cliches and called it a song.

It's one of the first songs several of my non-Prince fan friends refer to when talking about the music of his they like.

TrivialPursuit said:

So, I created this playlist on YouTube for an expanded The Gold Experience, based on my tracklist earlier. And it includes the studio "Days of Wild."

I think it flows okay. Thoughts on the inserts? (And I'm not readding "Shy," so don't ask.) I took out the segues, but there's one on the file for "Days of Wild." I had to keep the one between "Eye Hate U" and "Gold" since there's no real separation on the blending of it.

I relegated some of the funkier stuff back to back like "319," "Acknowledge Me," and "Billy Jack Bitch." It keeps a vibe going, I think. "Dolphin" has such a definite ending, that the sudden intro for "Rock n' Roll" felt like it butted up well.

"Days of Wild" and "Interactive" could go anywhere. But I like how "Interactive" has that final ending, then "Now" just blasts into the mix.

Listen and let me know what you think.

Here's the listing:

P Control

Endorphinmachine

Shhh

We March

The Most Beautiful Girl In The World

Dolphin

Rock 'n' Roll Is Alive! (And It Lives In Minneapolis)

Days of Wild

Interactive

Now

319

Acknowledge Me

Billy Jack Bitch

Hate U

NPG Operator

Gold

I'd squeeze Ripopgodazippa in before 319, like on the March/May 94 configuration.

Slots in perfect as well cos he left the keyboard tapping sound effect at the end of the Crystal Ball version.

dodger07 said:

I'd squeeze Ripopgodazippa in before 319, like on the March/May 94 configuration.

Slots in perfect as well cos he left the keyboard tapping sound effect at the end of the Crystal Ball version.

DONE! YouTube playlist is updated.

I still strongly believe "Days O Wild" was only a minimal studio production for a backdrop to blow it up live.

Kinda like a reverse sear.

The released live version over the studio playback on CB is the "freezer burn compared 2 cool".

(that 2002 single was just a waste of audio media, though, overdubbing on the later, censored live recording)

WhisperingDandelions said:

Is employment at Pitchfork contingent on 40 paragraphs of preamble before getting to five sentences of actual review?

Their funk/R&B retrospective reviews are most egregious, just straight-up copy/pasting review fragments and tidbits from 20 years ago.

This review contains all the dated Gold review tropes railed off one by one. Requisite Come shade CHECK, "Gold Experience is easily the best Prince album of the decade" hot off the 1995 press release CHECK, requisite Tony M. shade CHECK (btw "Jughead" was three albums prior but go on and crowbar that in to flex the .5 seconds of google search org link cred), did we mention Come sucks, did we mention the rest of the career sucks, reference 2-3 other mainstream-catered albums as proof they surveyed the entire 90s/00s and 10s oeuvre to definitively report the rest of the career indeed sucks, check, check, checkcheckcheck.

Just an abysmal website, consistently awful, but especially, considerately awful when they step outside their lane of twee indie plop. At least they spared us of the direct phrase "return to form", a first for a Gold review, though certainly that was the overall message to be extracted.

Spot on review of the 'review'-

The retrospective review was full of tropes, platitudes, but lovely to read; but no real susbtance and does not stand up to scrutiny. I was neck deep in it all in the 90s and remember it well - But honestly, I find it hard to listen to the Gold Experience anymore -

I can't comment on the website but reading that article, all I could think was "I get why Prince liked this guy"

For the record - loved TGE at the time - I ate, drank and slept it all in the 90s - Nowadays I can't really listen to it anymore - It mostly sounds too clean & overproduced... Or maybe I listened to it so many times in the 90s that I know it too well - who knows?

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what about "Love Sign" with Nona Gaye? If this album had been released in the summer of '94 (as originally planned),"Love Sign" would have been a great addition and could have even been the lead single.It's super catchy and alot of fun.

nayroo2002 said:

I still strongly believe "Days Of Wild" was only a minimal studio production for a backdrop to blow it up live.

Kinda like a reverse sear.

The released live version over the studio playback on CB is the "freezer burn compared 2 cool".

(that 2002 single was just a waste of audio media, though, overdubbing on the later, censored live recording)

That feels very plausible. Just something to commit to tape in some regard, work out parts, knowing it will be a jam when played live.

I used to despise the studio version, but there's a lowkey groove to it that I enjoy now. And it works in that Gold playlist.

Don't get me started on that 2002 bullshit. "You in the blue shirt, you in the blue shirt." The overdubs were so obvious and like a sore thumb.

SoulAlive said:

what about "Love Sign" with Nona Gaye? If this album had been released in the summer of '94 (as originally planned),"Love Sign" would have been a great addition and could have even been the lead single.It's super catchy and alot of fun.

It's more Exodus-centric, since the title is mentioned in "The Exodus Has Begun."

The exodus has begun
These are the names of the children of the sun
Pumpin' the love sign in the days of wild

And while "Days of Wild" is mentioned, too, the track feels more Exodus-like.

However, the only concession would be to swap out "We March."

TrivialPursuit said:

SoulAlive said:

what about "Love Sign" with Nona Gaye? If this album had been released in the summer of '94 (as originally planned),"Love Sign" would have been a great addition and could have even been the lead single.It's super catchy and alot of fun.

It's more Exodus-centric, since the title is mentioned in "The Exodus Has Begun."

The exodus has begun
These are the names of the children of the sun
Pumpin' the love sign in the days of wild

And while "Days of Wild" is mentioned, too, the track feels more Exodus-like.

However, the only concession would be to swap out "We March."

I have found the album to sound a little more cohesive if you swap out "Shy" for "Love Sign"
since then you have 2 songs with nona on co-lead.

SoulAlive said:

TrivialPursuit said:

However, the only concession would be to swap out "We March."

that would work I think "We March" is one of the weaker tracks

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SoulAlive said:

TrivialPursuit said:

However, the only concession would be to swap out "We March."

that would work I think "We March" is one of the weaker tracks

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We March has dated production I don't really like, but the basic groove is very catchy.

LILpoundCAKE said:

I have found the album to sound a little more cohesive if you swap out "Shy" for "Love Sign"
since then you have 2 songs with nona on co-lead.

Not a terrible idea, since "Shy" can fuck off all day and night. haha

TrivialPursuit said:

SoulAlive said:

what about "Love Sign" with Nona Gaye? If this album had been released in the summer of '94 (as originally planned),"Love Sign" would have been a great addition and could have even been the lead single.It's super catchy and alot of fun.

It's more Exodus-centric, since the title is mentioned in "The Exodus Has Begun."

The exodus has begun
These are the names of the children of the sun
Pumpin' the love sign in the days of wild

And while "Days of Wild" is mentioned, too, the track feels more Exodus-like.

However, the only concession would be to swap out "We March."

I've got Love Sign in my Gold playlist rather than Exodus due to lack of Tora Tora, and the video was getting airplay back to back with TMBGIW so I'll mainly associate it with TGE.

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It was getting positive reviews on the back of TMBGIW being a hit and I'm convinced Love Sign would've done well too if WB didn't block it. Especially with the publicity it would've got with the anti-gun message and featuring Marvin Gaye's daughter.

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Speaking of We March; I've never really been a fan but I blasted it in the car driving to work this morning and surprised how much I enjoyed it. The meaningful lyrics, joyful chorus and outro had me hitting repeat.

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funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

Im sure a live compilation of songs from this album, well most of it, would sound beter than the actual album. Certain songs like now would not magically improve however

That wouldn't be horrible.

DarkKnight1 said:

The Gold Experience, , and 3121 are the trifecta of greatness post 80s. All 3 albums should be revisited by music fans that underappreciated post 80s Prince.

I like all three of those albums, but they wouldn't be my post-80s trifecta of greatness. My list would be Rainbow Children, Lostusflow3r and Art Official Age.

After I finished typing the above sentence, I realized how different my three choices of albums are from each other. Jazz-influenced funk, Rock, and Electro-pop/R&B.

DarkKnight1 said:

The Gold Experience, , and 3121 are the trifecta of greatness post 80s. All 3 albums should be revisited by music fans that underappreciated post 80s Prince.

For me, the trifecta, if we're sorta lumping 3 albums together, would be The Gold Experience, Come, and Chaos and Disorder.

I always thought C&D could've been paired down if necessary, and issued as an EP with a TGE SDE or something. But, it is what it is and I love all three records.

I'm also purposely sticking to 90s stuff in this. I do enjoy 3121 though. It's the best of the three, with Musicology and Planet Earth. I think I once came up with a Planet:3121 playlist that combined my best of those three. If I put it on the Org, I cant find it right now. But I believe there is one amazing album within those three.

TrivialPursuit said:

My iTunes version of TGE includes Interactive, Ripopgodazippa, Acknowledge Me and Days Of Wild.

I can see leaving Interactive off of the album, but the others are pure 90s Prince perfection.

I just listened to Acknowledge Me. I've never liked it (I think it sounds like Bell Biv Devo) and have only heard it straight through once or twice, but decided to give it another chance because everyone here seems to think it's great.

As I was listening a terrible lyric jumped out and hurt my ears:

- And even if we're dealin' with that time of the month
- It's fourth and goal and I ain't about to punt

Sweet Jesus, that's awful. Truly awful. On a number of levels. There have been a ton of threads here on the Org cataloguing Prince's worst, most cringe-inducing lyrics, but I don't thnk I've seen anyone cite this one. They should. It deserves a place on the Mt. Rushmore of awful lyrices.

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yeah,the rap part of that song isn't very good....but the rest of it is okay.

lurker316 said:

I just listened to "Acknowledge Me." I've never liked it (I think it sounds like Bell Biv Devo) and have only heard it straight through once or twice, but decided to give it another chance because everyone here seems to think it's great.

As I was listening a terrible lyric jumped out and hurt my ears:

- And even if we're dealin' with that time of the month
- It's fourth and goal and I ain't about to punt

LOL I think that lyric is cheeky and funny on purpose. I don't mind it.

I can see where you'd think BBD, or just New Jack Swing in general. It sorta hints at that in some ways. "Billy Jack Bitch" is almost there, too, but less than "Acknowledge Me."

lurker316 said:

dodger07 said:

lurker316 said:

I just listened to Acknowledge Me. I've never liked it (I think it sounds like Bell Biv Devo) and have only heard it straight through once or twice, but decided to give it another chance because everyone here seems to think it's great.

As I was listening a terrible lyric jumped out and hurt my ears:

- And even if we're dealin' with that time of the month
- It's fourth and goal and I ain't about to punt

Sweet Jesus, that's awful. Truly awful. On a number of levels. There have been a ton of threads here on the Org cataloguing Prince's worst, most cringe-inducing lyrics, but I don't thnk I've seen anyone cite this one. They should. It deserves a place on the Mt. Rushmore of awful lyrices.

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I love Acknowkedge Me but can’t disagree on that rap at that end. Although the ‘titties swinging like a door’ makes me smirk every time. . I’ve always wanted an edit like on The Beautiful Experience movie

I've always loved Acknowledge Me and for me, it's one of Prince's best raps.

Not my favorite album, has some good tracks, but overall a depressing feel for me, not as fun as his other albums.

Out of the thousands of CD's I own Gold has to be the loudest most compressed one I have. I have to remember to turn the volume to 2 before playing it and its still loud. I used to think maybe I got a bad copy